Sanders spent 5.6 million in NY and Clinton Spent 2.8 (MSNBC 4:50pm central)

[uponit7771]

For someone who doesn't want big money in the political process he's sure spending a lot of it no?

If the process doesn't need big money to work ............ AS IS................ then why spent big dough like that?


Your take?



tia

[NWCorona]

1. Not surprised at all

NY was Hillary's to lose.

[jfern]

2. What about her SuperPACs and joint fundraising comittee?

If that didn't count those ways she circumvents the $2700 donor limit, it's a total bullshit comparison.

[uponit7771]

3. My understanding is they SP can't join in fundraising

[jfern]

11. Correct the Record directly coordinates with her campaign though

[uponit7771]

14. any proof? tia

[jfern]

30. Correct The Record does coordinate

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-says-she-does-not-coordinate-super-pac-she-reportedly-raised-money

[Bill USA]

29. I wonder how much American Crossroads spent in attacking Clinton? Betting M$M won't comment on that

[CorporatistNation]

48. Question Is ..WHAT WAS THE SOURCE OF HER FUNDS SPENT? Victory Fund?

Bears questioning....

[jfern]

63. Her victory fund takes $353k instead of the normal $2700 and then uses creative accounting

to spend it on her campaign.

[Squinch]

4. His ads were playing every 5 minutes. And the ads themselves were pretty silly.

They said nothing about the candidate. They seemed to have the goal of rekindling the spirit of the feel-good 70's Coca Cola commercials. ("Perfect harmon-ola&quot

I only saw one Hillary ad. Keeping her powder dry for the main event.

[amborin]

5. she's had the entire MSM shilling for her and dissing Bernie; in that sense, she spend billions

[uponit7771]

7. You forgot the sarcasm tag

[slipslidingaway]

8. ^^^^^ plus the advantage of name recognition. nt

[uponit7771]

10. That excuse wore out after the 20th 50,000 person Sanders rally no?

[slipslidingaway]

26. A former first lady does not have an advantage with name recognition and the media? nt

[uponit7771]

36. At first of course but after the 20th 50,000 person rally he's caught up. There's no more 'they

... don't know him" crap... Sanders is felt and seen and heard no doubt

[slipslidingaway]

60. Well I was shocked to hear from several people I called in NY that they just recently started to ...

pay attention and did not know much about Sanders, also that many people were still deciding even yesterday.

You have to admire how the Dems scheduled the first debate after the NY deadline to change party affiliation.

I will not cheer it now and I did not cheer that decision at the time.

Not everyone is paying close attention as they have other important issues.

[MADem]

6. Well, his admaker (Tad Devine's shop) charged him a good chunk of that for their

"services."

Would another agency have charged the same prices for the ad creation/distribution piece of the expenditures, that is the question.

[uponit7771]

9. yeap what is it 800,000 a month to lose... Id be pissed

[basselope]

12. Most the money is spent by outsiders on her behalf.

[uponit7771]

17. Not double her own expenditures, I don't believe that for a second.

[basselope]

19. Okay.. don't believe it.

[uponit7771]

20. Do you have a link or something? tia

[basselope]

23. Yeah.

[DCBob]

13. Bernie needs more money to win.

[MADem]

15. He blew a small fortune jetting off to Rome for no damn reason. nt

[uponit7771]

18. Well, he got to put the pope in a position to have to talk about their greeting (meeting for the SBS

... camp) so I guess he can brag that he got the pope to talk about him.

I agree, what the **** were they thinking !?!?

Devine is raking in the dough while

[IamMab]

27. His supporters need to CLAP HARDER!

Clap harder, or Tinkerbell won't make it!!

[Scuba]

16. For Hillary, add another gazillion in super pac money and establishment shills on MSM.

[uponit7771]

22. Well, she did the hard work of building friends and influencing people instead of standing on the...

... sidelines and chunking rocks at people playing holier than thou uber liberal.

That's a good thing no?

[Scuba]

33. Well, she sold a lot of arms to brutal dictatorships. Is that what you're referring to?

I'm sure her MIC and Saudi friends are glad to help her out.

[uponit7771]

35. No she didn't, you guys understand how shit like this sounds!? REALLY?! come on...

[Scuba]

47. Yeah she did ...

http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187

American defense contractors also donated to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state and in some cases made personal payments to Bill Clinton for speaking engagements. Such firms and their subsidiaries were listed as contractors in $163 billion worth of Pentagon-negotiated deals that were authorized by the Clinton State Department between 2009 and 2012.

The State Department formally approved these arms sales even as many of the deals enhanced the military power of countries ruled by authoritarian regimes whose human rights abuses had been criticized by the department.

Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Oman and Qatar all donated to the Clinton Foundation and also gained State Department clearance to buy caches of American-made weapons even as the department singled them out for a range of alleged ills, from corruption to restrictions on civil liberties to violent crackdowns against political opponents.

As secretary of state, Hillary Clinton also accused some of these countries of failing to marshal a serious and sustained campaign to confront terrorism. In a December 2009 State Department cable published by Wikileaks, Clinton complained of “an ongoing challenge to persuade Saudi officials to treat terrorist financing emanating from Saudi Arabia as a strategic priority.” She declared that “Qatar's overall level of CT cooperation with the U.S. is considered the worst in the region.” She said the Kuwaiti government was “less inclined to take action against Kuwait-based financiers and facilitators plotting attacks.” She noted that “UAE-based donors have provided financial support to a variety of terrorist groups.” All of these countries donated to the Clinton Foundation and received increased weapons export authorizations from the Clinton-run State Department.

And yes, I do understand how shit like this sounds. What I don't understand is how Hillary's supports remain willfully ignorant or uncaring about it.

[uponit7771]

59. "received increased weapons export authorizations" is someones claim and they provided no proof

... as if people are going to believe the Pope meeting people when it comes to facts.

Again, solid proof not just someone sayin Clinton is evil or some shit like it

[dubyadiprecession]

21. Another poor decision by BS...

Now he gets to trail even further behind Hillary.

[NCTraveler]

24. Sanders and Weaver know how to get contributions.

Weaver will send out an email tonight, it will briefly touch on voter fraud and mention "establishment" no fewer than three times, and tomorrow will be their biggest haul to date.

[uponit7771]

41. +1

[IamMab]

25. Gonna be a million-dollar-month for ol' Tad Devine! Cha-ching! $$$$$ nt

[Lucinda]

28. She prefers her small gatherings and less money spent on ads, he does the ads and big rallys

So far, her system seems to be netting better returns.

[uponit7771]

43. Yeap, they keep saying name recognition but that was months ago. The person who would vote in the

... primary already KNOWS Sanders after 20 50,000 person rallies.

I'm starting to think Sanders is in it to keep it interesting or something ... just can't figure out what good he thinks he's doin

[grasswire]

31. she's running out of money

....and doesn't have the same pool of donors that Bernie has.

[uponit7771]

40. Link and quote from a impartial source? tia

[grasswire]

46. do your own research, and try to keep up..

...with common knowledge.

[uponit7771]

51. Podium Bird isn't common knowledge

[bettyellen]

32. I suddenly saw tons of SBS TV commercials. this past week.

[itsrobert]

34. Does that include the $500,000 trip to Rome and back?

Or those funds allocated differently?

[uponit7771]

38. +1, half a million for the "greeting" (aka meeting for SBS camp) is not money well spent... wow

[morningfog]

37. lol.

No big money. It is money from small donors. Lots of them. People Money.

[uponit7771]

39. big money from small donors but it goes against the whole "money out of politics" thin

... thing the guy is talking about.

Hell, he's the one spending the big money !!!

He thinks its going to be better in the general?!

He'll need to spend double, I'm wanting him to go to a gun fight with a tank and not a bat

[morningfog]

45. He has a tank. What he doesn't have or need is Big Money from corporate donors.

He doesn't need or want Big Money from corporate donors who expect favors in return. He doesn't need to exploit citizens United. He doesn't need to stretch the current laws to win. Fuck all that.

His tank is millions of small donations. Small donors giving repeatedly and regularly. There is. People raised money is an army of tanks.

[uponit7771]

62. That's a tank for a primary which will turn into a cap gun in the general

[morningfog]

64. Only if Hillary Pumas sit out.

[JackRiddler]

42. Good, I helped pay for that too.

Clinton's campaign is running out of money. Live by the sword...

[uponit7771]

44. Link and quote from a impartial source? tia

[Tiggeroshii]

49. "Big money" means "corporate money"

he used grassroot money. As in my money too.

[uponit7771]

50. Irregardless of the source if he wants money out of politics shouldn't he be showing how to do so

... instead of outspending her 2 to 1? tia

[Tiggeroshii]

52. No. That's done by not taking money from lobbyists and superpacs. Which he has followed through on.

[uponit7771]

54. No, thats not his spiel...it big money not just big donors

[Tiggeroshii]

57. Well right now I'm concerned about my faucet not lighting on fire.

Taking 99% of your money from the working class isn't quite the epitome of corrupted influence. Voting for the person taking hundreds of thousands from oil lobbyists on the other hand will assure the petroleum content in your water source is optimal =)

[uponit7771]

58. Hope you get that fixed, I'm not into demonizing any industry and wide swath calling them all..

... corrupt but there shouldn't be that much influence I just don't think Sanders is truly interested in changing all that .. not after the "we'll see" when it comes to supporting down ballot dems remark

[Tiggeroshii]

61. ...or getting poisoned to death by the natural gas leak near my house.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/04/19/3770748/another-leak-porter-ranch/

So far no industry seems interested in fixing it for me. And neither will anybody taking their money.

[HumanityExperiment]

53. Shorter...

Spending $$ in an election cycle, news at 11

[seabeyond]

55. He almost always outspends her significantly while griping and smearing she has too much $. Ironic?

Ya.

[uponit7771]

56. +1