Why is Clinton having so much difficulty winning the nomination?

[jg10003]

Clinton started the primaries with more advantages then any other non-incumbent in history. In fact she has had the nearly the same status as an incumbent president running for re-election. The entire party establishment supported her, as did the financial and media establishments. The actual primaries should have been a mere formality. And yet she is still in a fight for the nomination. Even if she wins a majority of the pledged delegates, it is extremely unlikely that she will win enough pledged delegates (58.8%) to clinch the nomination without super-delegates. She has a negative favorable rating and is not trusted by a majority of Americans.

So what is wrong with Hillary Clinton? Why is she having such a hard time winning? She herself said that she is not a natural politician. Whatever the reasons are, whether fair or unfair, she is very unpopular. She could beat Trump (almost anyone could). But Cruz, and especially Kasich, might beat her. This is the reason that the super-delegates may desert her at the convention, she simply is not a very good candidate.

[geek tragedy]

1. this crap wasn't persuasive the first 10,000 times you guys dropped it in here

it's not getting better with age

P.S. She is winning.

[Loudestlib]

27. She's been running for 8 years.

You'd think she'd be wiping the floor with a socialist that joined the race at the last minute.

[merrily]

2. If you think this is bad, you'd better leave the country for the general, if she's the nominee.

[DCBob]

3. Year of the insurgent and the anti-establishment candidate.

Amazing she has fought her way through all that and still on track to win.

[itsrobert]

4. Heh

[LiberalFighter]

11. Pro wrestling sucks

[itsrobert]

12. Not really a fan right now

Was when i was in my 20's.

[LiberalFighter]

14. I was before high school.

When I got involved in high school wrestling I stopped watching it.

[Dem2]

18. "high school wrestling I stopped watching it."

i.e. actual wrestling versus Hollywood acting.

[msongs]

5. she is getting more delegates than your guy. that's all that needs to be known lol nt

[oldandhappy]

6. I thought I would be with her.

Dropped her in January when she and Claire and Chelsea all were out there lying the same lies. She had everything going for her. No need to do that. Now I think she is telling one story to the 1% and another story to the rest of us and the rest of us are catching on, except I am not sure since I stopped listening.

[Codeine]

7. She's further ahead now than Obama ever was.

She's doing well against a very popular opponent with a dedicated fanbase. She's going to win handily.

[Downwinder]

8. Muddy track. Rained on her parade.

[Fritz Walter]

9. Oh, I dunno. Maybe it's the sense of entitlement

It's as if she -- and her minions -- fervently believe that the presidency belongs to her and Dog-damn anyone who dares to impede her procession to the throne.

Perhaps a lot of us see a better future for ourselves and generations to come, rather than "incremental changes" to the status quo.

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

John Lennon's lyrics have as much relevance today as they did three decades ago.

[procon]

10. When's the Convention... did they move the date?

You do understand that both pledged delegates AND super-delegates are going to vote for the winning nominee, right? It's not decided by voters during the primaries, and it's not a choice between the two categories, so you're either confused or getting ahead of the process.

[itsrobert]

15. Boom

[KPN]

28. Yes, BOOM! What Hilklary will do to the world if elected President.

WWIII --here we come!

[uponit7771]

20. I'm more cynical, I blame Sanders for bullshitting the college kids and not informing them how ...

... congress works and telling them what they're up against.

[KPN]

29. Spot on -- you are more cynical.

[angrychair]

24. Sorry

Does him being Jewish upset you? Appears that it does.
You hyperbole aside, people see the double standards and it's getting old.
Koch and bank money to republicans = bad

Multimillionaires and banks and investment firms to HRC= good

No one is buying that crap anymore. Bad is bad. No double standards.

[Trust Buster]

26. Sanders being Jewish doesn't bother me in the least. His Santa Claus act annoys me though.

[angrychair]

33. Really

You are the one using the "Jewish" label. Since I have personally witnessed serious anti Semitic, neo-Nazi hate sites used on DU to slander him, you are slandering him with derogatory hyperbole, I assume your making a more broader point.

[cherokeeprogressive]

35. It bothers you enough to have caused you to put "Jewish" next to "Santa Claus".

Do you think we're fucking stupid, or just not paying attention?

Why mention Jewish at all? Freudian Fucking Slip. It was your first post in the thread and you found it impossible to get through it without using the word "Jew" in a derogatory way. You described him as a Jew who "promises trillions in goodies that he knows he can't deliver." So he's a lying Jew, amiright? A lying Jew because a lying Santa Claus just doesn't get you to the point you want to make.

You're furious that anyone, much less a Jew would delay Coronation Day aren't ya? You Hillary supporters are WIZARDS at identity politics and division. North, South, East, West, White, Black, Jew, anything to divide so you can conquer.

[Nonhlanhla]

37. Maybe because Santa Claus is a Christian figure

so the expression would mean that Bernie would be a Jewish version of a Christian figure.

Just a guess. Doesn't seem particularly anti-Semitic to me.

[cherokeeprogressive]

38. Of course it doesn't. Your friend calling him a lying Jew doesn't either I bet.

[Nonhlanhla]

39. Which friend?

I don't remember anything about "a lying Jew." If anyone used that phrase, then yes, I would agree that would be anti-Semitic.

I merely responded to the phrase "Jewish Santa Claus," which is not an unheard of kind of phrase, and which would make sense in terms of "Jewish version of Christian symbol." Not a phrase I would use, but also not a phrase that I think had anti-Semitic obsession written all over it.

[cherokeeprogressive]

41. Imma help you out...

"Jewish Santa Claus that promises trillions in goodies
that he knows he can't deliver."

Willingly saying things you know to be false makes a person a liar. Your fellow Clinton supporter couldn't get that out without reiterating that he was talking about a Jew.

[Nonhlanhla]

42. Bernie does promise things he can't deliver

That's what makes him like Santa. But Santa is a Christian symbol. So the person added "Jewish" to say that he's a Jewish version of Santa. This is not exactly the same as calling Bernie "a lying Jew." The only one who used that phrase was you.

I get it that you're trying to score some kind of point here. But you cannot put words into people's mouths and then accuse them of doing something that they did not do. The person did not call Bernie a "lying Jew."

[cherokeeprogressive]

43. Mmmkay.

[PowerToThePeople]

16. Because we do not want her as President.

[Still In Wisconsin]

17. It mostly boils down to the fact that people really dislike her.

There are plenty of reasons for that-- some are related to sexism/misogyny and some are related to the decades-long Republican attacks. But a lot of it is the smug, entitled aura she puts out there so often. That and the weathervane stuff... people hate that.

For the record I will vote for her in the GE if she's the nominee, but it will be a "lesser of two evils" choice for me,

[uponit7771]

21. In the most diverse dem primary states in the union dems like Clinton.

[Still In Wisconsin]

44. That's true, and that's why she will almost certainly get the nomination...

but it remains a fact that she will carry into the GE historically high negatives. Lots of people really dislike Hillary and they aren't all Republicans. Luckily if she faces either Trump of Cruz she will be up against an opponent who also has historically high negatives.

[uponit7771]

48. +1, I think she'll beat them good... white conservative women will be attracted to Hillary IMHO

[YouDig]

19. She's having an easier time than anyone else in either party.

[appalachiablue]

22. Bernie beats Trump, Cruz all GOP for months. Heaven help us if Hill v. Trump. She's now

even below Cruz! in Unfavorables!

[randome]

23. Because Sanders makes a good opponent? Wow, that was easy.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

[cherokeeprogressive]

36. Wow you must not be reading about half the posts of your fellow Hillary supporters.

Because I read he's a lying Jew (thank your buddy Trust Buster for that one) who's usurping a logo from a party he hates in a self-aggrandizing run for an office he's totally unqualified for after deserting the state of his birth because it had too many people of color in close proximity to where he grew up and is pretty much a one-note candidate who would stoop so low as to hide behind a potted plant in order to ambush no less than the Pope.

Come to think of it, maybe you believe that's what makes a good opponent, who can say?

[randome]

46. Only speaking for myself. He makes great speeches but has little support in Congress.

That's why he gave Clinton some trouble for a while but was unable to seal the deal.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

[reddread]

25. Wall Street and IWR

some things dont fly with taxpaying income losing main street voters.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. This is an unusual year

Whatever we think of Jeb Bush he was the popular ex-governor of a large and diverse state, the son of a president, the brother of another one, and the grandson of a patrician northeastern senator, and a reality tv star put hin in a clown suit.

[KPN]

31. She's just so damned hard to like and ...

if you really look at her record ... trust! It's really just that simple.

[beachbumbob]

32. Looks like she is winning to those of us

Who understand she a delegate lead sanders can't overtake and over 2 million more votes than sanders...

[Blue_In_AK]

34. Because she's not likeable enough.

[Broward]

40. Being an unscrupulous, right-wing warmonger may have something to do with it.

[pnwmom]

45. Bernie just spent twice as much as she did -- to decisively lose the election.

He's the one having problems.

[Marrah_G]

47. Because a lot of people REALLY dislike her

I don't dislike her. I just think Bernie represents my ideals.

I know people who would rather not vote then vote for her.

[Recursion]

49. Because when a man (Obama) had a smaller lead on her, the party had effectively called it already

And when a woman (Clinton) kept campaigning at this point, she was derided as an ambitious harpy.

[kstewart33]

50. Not tonight JG.

It's a tremendous victory for Clinton tonight. The race is over.

The question now for Bernie, is how will he use his considerable power? If he uses it well, he could affect the direction of the Democratic Party. That's the real impact that he and all of the Bernie supporters on this forum have.

Because he has the power of millions behind him. Turn your attention now to the issue: How should he use it?

Stop the whining and sour grapes. Lick your wounds and then turn all that emotion and energy to something that really means something.

[Still In Wisconsin]

54. In what way do you believe Bernie still has power?

I voted enthusiastically for Bernie in the primary but he was only going to remain relevant so long as there was a realistic possibility that Hillary would not clinch before the convention. That possibility effectively ended tonight, and so does his movement and any associated political power. Realistically she could now deny him a speaking slot at the convention. ..a distinct possibility given the level of acrimony between the two campaigns.

[kstewart33]

57. I guarantee you that she will not do that.

Bernie's power is his millions of energized, youthful supporters. And not just young people. Hillary must have many if not most of those votes to win the election. She knows that. She could have launched blistering attacks on Bernie but she did not. She could have attacked him on the probability that none of his platform will be achieved, on Bernie's lack of detail on how to achieve his platform, on his biography which is loaded with stuff that would scare many voters if they knew about it. The media has not publicized his biography because they want a horserace and the ratings and profits that come with it.

But she did not. Why? She needs his voters. That need is the core of his power, and his supporters are the source of his power.

[Still In Wisconsin]

59. Sure, she needs voters, but Bernie himself is now irrelevant, don't you think?

If I'm Hillary's campaign strategist I'm doing everything I can to keep Bernie as far away from the convention as possible. As somebody who really likes Bernie I hope that doesn't happen, but I just don't think they want to take a chance on this movement surviving. They can win on a centrist platform and lose almost all of the more liberal wing of the party because they will pick off a lot of moderate independents and even R women.

Simply put, Hillary does not need folks like me. I will still vote for her because the R's scare the hell out of me.

[MrMickeysMom]

51. Would you like my honest opinion?

It's harder to call favors in when people are not sure you can deliver...

It's getting harder because the long sleep is over, and the American people will direct the cause of this corruption in due process.

We are the first generation to identify global climate change exponentially as it's become, and we are the LAST generation to do something about it.

She cannot. She will not. Who wants to leave your children's future to THAT? All the while, getting help by shaping the election rules and controlling the "message".

Fuck this shit.

[RandySF]

52. You have an odd sense of timing.

[Squinch]

53. She's not. She just won it.

And nothing is wrong with her. She's doing better than Obama did, she's wiping the floor with your candidate in pledged delegates and in popular vote.

You guys need to get your heads out of your asses.

[Codeine]

55. Game, set, and match!

Now let's pack this mess up and get on with the GE.

[Squinch]

56. Amen!

[dflprincess]

58. Because Bernie refused to play fair and respect that it was HER TURN.

And thank heaven he did.