2016 Postmortem
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"This is the first time they've done that." Reports Andrea Mitchell.
LexVegas
(6,050 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)You're in no position to talk about releasing tax returns. Your hipocracy is unbelievable!
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)NOT speech transcripts. The two have nothing to do with each other.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)metroins
(2,550 posts)I'd want to be alone as well.
No reason to beat him when he's down.
LisaM
(27,800 posts)I dearly wanted HIllary to win but this is sobering.
brooklynite
(94,489 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)He's beenpredicting a win, or at least a close race. He took it on the chin tonight.
Corporate666
(587 posts)and the cold harsh train of reality came and smacked him in the face.
Deep down inside, Bernie knows he can't win. His last chance was a Michigan-like upset in NY. Deep down, he knew it wasn't going to happen... but desperately wanted it to happen. But... it didn't.
metroins
(2,550 posts)It essentially ended any slim chance he had.
Also he'd been putting out that they'd do well for weeks.
He's going to have to change his campaign goals, if I were him, I'd stop soliciting donations. I would feel bad taking money from people when he will not win.
This loss must hurt a lot.
krawhitham
(4,641 posts)femmedem
(8,201 posts)Not the same as being a sore loser. I think I sense a sore winner in the vicinity, though.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)This might be the end.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... no specifics at all.
Cornaike is asking about delegates he's just pointing to states
George II
(67,782 posts)...he's making up all sorts of excuses.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)peddling on MSNBC??
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)and the final result was Hillary by 16 percent.
It is incredibly bizarre.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)No mystery.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Because, believe me, I don't like feeling that this is not a legitimate win or that something untoward happened.
I could handle a 15, 20 point loss--if the exit polling was close to the actual result. Bernie had plenty of losses, much bigger than this, and either the exit polls or the expectation fit with the result.
This does not. Something seems off.
Exit polls, 4 percent. Loss 15 points.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)And are intended for demographic analysis after the race, not to be used as the end all or be all when first reported. I'll start a new thread with the recalibrated exit poll so you can see how much it has moved since 9:00.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)don't kid yourself.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)There's obviously a problem with how polls are conducted with 2016 technology and communication styles.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)I know the pre-primary polls were way off.
George II
(67,782 posts)CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)He looks broken. Body language says he knows it's over but still spinning away about flipping delegates etc. somber.
George II
(67,782 posts)CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)They know how nasty and unrealistic that sounded.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)showed a very tight race. Bernie said tonight, while he was in PA--that his campaign was going to do well tonight in NY.
Then, the exit polls showed Hillary winning by 4.
Then, we see an end results that looks like a 15 point loss.
I think they realize that some kind of cheating happened.
I'd be upset too.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)and concern for the legitimacy of our election process.
Nice violin.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)of our election process was damaged. Oh - I see. You mean because Bernie lost.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)smile
DemocracyDirect
(708 posts)Get off of it.
Sore winners.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,333 posts)How long do you keep taking kids lunch money when your real work at this point is done? I'm glad he was in it. I really am. It made her stronger, and I respect him for that. But it's really done now. Overdone, in fact.
timlot
(456 posts)Of college kids skipping meals to send their $27 in for Bernie. "Gotta support the Revolution man".
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)when Bernie won his caucuses. You can't have it both ways.