2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAll you unworthy democrats not part of "the base"
commence auto-flagellation...
... then make sure to vote for Clinton in the GE
stonecutter357
(12,693 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)brush
(53,740 posts)it actually seems to apply more towards Sanders' supporters.
I mean just look at the overall vote and delegate counts through out the entire campaign.
Clinton supporters turn out to vote, Sanders supporters on the other hand, turn out at huge rallies but lag in turning out to vote.
Now that's what I call apathy.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)And I wonder how many people who would have voted for Sanders were prevented by NY's arcane and exclusionary voting laws.
brush
(53,740 posts)you claim couldn't vote We can also call it apathy by people not paying attentions to whether they were going to be able to vote.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Let's say, hypothetically, you have someone who cares, but has become so jaded and cynical about the nature of modern politics that they don't associate with a particular party....Not that they do not care about things, but they see nothing constructive getting done. So they decide "A pox on all their houses." But then Bernie hits a chord, and they see some daylight and ant to support them....But, oops. Because he had not envisioned a viable candidate like Sanders months ago, he can;'t vote for Bernie in the primary.
There are endless variations and reasons people were ineligible to vote for Sanders in the primary...and it's not because they are stupid, or apathetic or whatever.
brush
(53,740 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Overall, Clinton is running a very positive campaign. Day in and day out.
Clinton is not even close to the negativity coming out of the Sanders campaign. Not even close. They are even discussing subverting the will of the voters.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)My television has so far been spared from the times I've wanted to throw my shoe at it hearing the distotrtedf and negative stuff Clinton and her surrogates have said
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I did get close with Sanders comments about Planned Parenthood and their more recent discussions about how they plan on subverting the will of the voters. Those are pretty egregious.
I still say this is one of the most polite primaries we have ever seen with respect to our candidates. It's only recently that Sanders went mostly negative. I never did think they had all that much control over their surrogates. They wish they did though. lol.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)who say they will NEVER vote for Hillary. If she's the nominee she may pull out a win just because the Republicans are such a mess, but I'm guessing voter turnout will be abysmal, and there will be very little enthusiasm for her presidency.
FSogol
(45,446 posts)Women will insure that Trumpy doesn't become President.
A lot of House seats seem to be in flux now too.
GOTV.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)FSogol
(45,446 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)They won back the congress!! Wait, no they didn't
Well they won back all the state legislatures! Not.
I dunno, seems like that base they keep talking about is a minority. And it can't win elections.
Isn't they special?