I'm Canceling My Subscription to Sunshine Patriot Thom Hartmann's Program
because of the stance he took today. It was the f'ing last straw.
What is a Sunshine Patriot?
Sunshine Patriot
A word used in the essay "The American Crisis" by Thomas Paine in winter 1776 during the uncertain times of the American revolution.
The word Sunshine Patriot refers to individuals who claim to fight against tyranny on the side of freedom, yet are unable to stick it out when the going gets tough or unfavorable.
I won't bore or infuriate you with everything he said and have to paraphrase because I am so disgusted and pissed off that I will not waste my time looking for ways to link to the show and find the exact moment when he made some servile statements. Here is the essence of it....
~ It's time to come together...Bernie is likely out of the running because the numbers are against him...Bernie says he will now go after the Super Delegates but that won't work out for him...There's not that much difference between Bernie and Hillary...Bernie started a MOVEMENT and the DNC will have to incorporate his ideas into the Democratic Platform...Hillary has become a progressive and will stay a progressive....and on and on ad nauseum...~
Translation:
TH is freaked about the supremes. That is always his argument. We HAVE to band together and vote for Hillary because if we don't the Supreme Court will be the same as it has been for the last couple of decades.
TH is telling his audience that we have to support the DNC's choice of candidate. They obviously know what is best for us. For all the times he has ranted against everything they have done to Sanders he sure flipped. Sunshine Patriot.
TH forgot about:
The DNC's dismal Debate Schedule--6 Debates for Hillary and Bernie; 25 Debates for Obama and Hillary.
The 'Data Breach'. Lawsuit still pending by Sanders against the DNC for refusing to release Bernie's voter data.
The Hillary Victory Fund.
All engineered by the DNC. And now Hartmann wants us to accept their choice and be good little democrats while espousing they will embrace the 'movement' Bernie started and Hillary will 'remain' a progressive? What tripe!!!! The record of the DNC accepting progressive movements is dismal and I don't see them changing or accepting anything from us---not now and not in the future.They are effictively alienating half of the party members.Since 2009, the Democratic Party has lost 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats, over 900 state legislative seats and 12 governorships. Although most presidents’ political parties suffer losses in Congress, Republican gains under Barack Obama’s administration have been unprecedented. After the 2014 midterm elections, Democrats suffered so dramatically that the Democratic National Committee organized a task force to review how the party connects their core values with voters. While the rise of anti-establishment candidate Bernie Sanders should serve as a wake-up call, the Democratic establishment has not embraced his candidacy as a means to re-energize their voter base. Instead, leaders of the Party have fallen in line behind Hillary Clinton, who only further alienates the types of voters they should be courting. Denying Bernie access to his own voter rolls. That tension spilled into the open on Friday after the DNC cut off Sanders from a crucial voter database, saying the campaign wrongly accessed data gathered by Hillary Clinton's team. Sanders filed suit in federal court Friday evening seeking to regain access to the voter data. http://observer.com/2016/02/if-sanders-loses-bernie-believers-will-take-the-dnc-down/http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/04/19/3770542/bernie-hillary-dnc-fundraising/
Sanders unveiled a new accusation this week, pointing to “extremely serious concerns” about Clinton’s joint fundraising activities with the DNC. A letter from his attorney laid out the issue: the joint fundraising structure allows Clinton to accept much larger individual donations than her campaign is legally allowed to receive, and that money is then being used to send out mailers and online ads to raise money from smaller donors who can contribute directly to the campaign multiple times. The group has collected $33 million dollars so far.
“This is the type of mega, mega joint fundraising committee that we all feared would come into existence if McCutcheonwere ruled the wrong way, which it was,” said Craig Holman with Public Citizen. “It makes maximum use of the loose rules governing joint fundraising. They’re using big checks to set up a small donor fundraising campaign and turning over the small donors to the Hillary campaign while keeping the large ones for the party. It is permissible, but it’s offensive, and it should be illegal.”
Both Holman and Larry Noble with the Campaign Legal Center emphasized that it’s extremely unusual and possibly unprecedented for a party to raise so much money for a candidate before the general election.
“It shows the DNC has clearly taken sides before they even have a nominee,” said Holman. “There’s an obvious bias.”
Noble agreed. “They really are throwing their weight behind a particular candidate,” he said. “Their argument is usually that it helps the party generally, but the practical and legal reality is that it benefits Hillary Clinton. You just don’t expect this kind of thing to happen in the primaries.”
Noble added that even if there were a legal violation in Clinton’s fundraising — for example, exceeding limits for in-kind donations from the DNC to her campaign — the gridlocked Federal Elections Commissions will not do anything to put a stop to it.
As Ben Jealous pointed out recently, the DNC and Hillary are represented by the same attorney, Marc Elias. Conflict of Interest.div class="excerpt"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Elias
Marc Elias
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Marc E. Elias is the general counsel for Hillary Rodham Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign.[1] He served as general counsel to John Kerry’s 2004 presidential campaign. Elias is a partner at the law firm Perkins Coie LLP.
He served as lead counsel for Senator Al Franken in the 2008 Minnesota Senate election recount and contest, the largest recount and contest in American history.[3] Elias represents the Democratic National Committee, Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and Democratic Governors Association.[2] He has represented the leadership of the House of Representatives and U.S. Senate. Elias has testified before committees in both houses of Congress and before the Federal Election Commission on campaign finance.[4] Elias has worked on voting rights and redistricting lawsuits in Virginia, Ohio, Nevada, Minnesota, New York, Wisconsin, Texas, Florida and North Carolina.[5]
Trust them again? I am in it for Bernie. In for a penny--in for a pound.
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Holy shit that's some strong Kool Aid! 
in our candidates--the ability to adjust to the changes going on in the party~ or some such bull.
is totally supporting Bernie to the bitter win or end. Welcome to DU and thanks for writing. 
It is nice to know that more and more go to alternate online media sources to get a better source of information, if they can find the right places. Thank you very much for the warm welcome! 
and I thought they should have given that guy a medal. I am still trying to get into reddit and Cenk and twitter but am a little frustrated....I get FSTV and LINK on DTV but love the 'giant library' of the interwebs.
Here is a nice welcome gift for you! (It's a baby bobcat!) They were rescued together after a forest fire!
Thanks for your reply!
I'm glad someone gets the reference! 
unnerving. God, I MISS Bill Moyers. He introduced us to Elizabeth Warren. Bill Press and Amy Goodman are hanging in because their hearts are progressive. Remember what they did to Kucinich? Lambs to a slaughter.
core!
I will be glued to this PC all day long when the bus comes for Bernie and Elizabeth Warren!! 
She will see the undercarriage when she endorses Hillary for president.
I love it when folks that have been rec'ing and cheering links to attacks from the nastiest of right wing sites say they can't be bothered to link to an actual liberal progressive's website.
If that doesn't say something right there.....
She is as good today as she was 20 years ago.
WTF does that even mean .. since anyone with two brain cells to rub together
KNOWS that Hillary's "progressive" veneer is paper thin, and won't last 5 minutes
if Bernie were to drop out of the race.
of their convictions. I voted for McGovern, Jerry Brown over Clinton, and ran a state volunteer campaign for Dean. They were all killed off. What are your chops?
calling people, organizing people, working your butt off to accomplish your goals. It means giving up your life, family and time to support the candidate of your choice. When the DNC decides for us it is not democratic. They need to listen to their members--not insult them. I have donated thousands of dollars and tens of thousands of hours to support different candidates. I am getting up in years and don't know if I have another election left in me but I'll be damned if I let them lead me by a nose ring again. I say fight to the finish and GO BERNIE!!!!!
I make a monthly donation to them but ain't gonna be paying for ole Thom's salary any more. We have DTV--what do you have?
And we have a saying out here in horse country about well--
He says he's for him but knows he really doesn't have a chance, so has been rooting for Hillary since day one and pushing his audience to vote for her. Alan Colmes has recently made the same jump to Hillary! Its like the Body Snatchers! Why am I being shamed to vote for someone that goes against everything I believe in? Can't do it! The 1%, DNC & Hillary will make sure she wins so why are they so S CARED?
and sometimes they complain about it then he lets them get out one or two sentences and cuts them off to ramble about his VAST knowledge of ---whatever---then he says to the caller--oh--Time's up!!!! That is annoying because I want to hear what the callers are saying, not about his living in Europe or other BS. My spouse is a physicist and says everything TH goes off on scientifically is totally incorrect. It's sad because he got me through some hard times. 
But get under the bus Thom!
goes off on the 'unity' talk. He is obviously very uncomfortable. It's sad, really because I used to look forward to his show and if I missed it could always listen on the computer. I was in a red state last year as my 93 year old mother was dying and there was no radio or tv station that carried his show. That's why I signed up for 7.95 a month--just so I could keep my sanity in redville. Oy Vey!
if i see ana, jimmy (from tyt) or mike papantonio talk unity i will be completely depressed.
and belated sympathies on your loss 
I miss her and it's been rough. 
Depression babies. She went to school on the GI bill and went to law school. I had her convinced to vote Dem too-she voted for Kennedy.
I really doubt Papantonio will cave---but Farron Cousins always has the delegate count wrong!!! Arrraugh!
and a marine wow.
i hope pap stays true..but those delegate numbers.....better to ignore sometimes 
for the late reply but I appreciate your insights as to Reagan and Clinton 1st and you are right. The mixed or crossover voting was real and the lines drawn in the sand these days are quicksand quagmires. 'Tear down that wall' while he wrecked the economy and smooth jazz from the architect of major job losses. And now we have Bernie and most people either don't know about him or don't care or don't get it.....
Presidency and it was drip, drip, drip. Always something. I think we need something fresh and new and that works for everyone. Do you really think a revisit to the early 90's is going to cut it? Look what they have done to Obama. You might think it can't get worse but the R's are loaded for bear. They have been planning their attacks on her for years, decades.
so over the top. How can he defend the moves of DWS?
So far you are not on 'Ignore', you are actually growing on me, well, somewhat. Enjoy this, seriously.
and have excellent recall or an enormous gift for finding the TRUTH that is out there that most of us miss. I shudder to think who HRC would nominate to the SC and will not buy into TH's argument. I remember 'Impeach Earl Warren' bumper stickers as a child and asking my parents what that meant. They were evasive.
Amazing. I always thought Eisenhower was better than that. He was in office when I was born. LOL, oldie here.
served his terms in office believing he could meet them halfway. I blame his choice of advisors mostly because he surrounded himself t=with the same old loser dregs of Clinton I. He should take responsibility for his failed tenure but never will and we have the DOJ email mess coming up soon. It will never change unless we make it change and they apparently hold all the money and the power and are not about to give up one inch. Look at Donna Brazile, Jesus, saying she gets TWO votes as a SD. What is democratic about that?
you are right! I think you will be a very interesting voice here. I like your point of view--refreshing! Sorry for the late reply and welcome to DU!
and I had to go to sleep last night and get up early today to plant. You crack me up! I'm sure he is afraid of boomers on SS but who help pay his salary. Here's some of what I did last year...guess what I'm doing all this week? Sorry for the late reply!
I respect peoples own process and how they make up their minds, and besides lectures rarely convince anyone of anything.
as I have been around too many screwed up elections. I voted for McGovern and was maced protesting Nixon. Every time we had someone remotely progressive the national party apparatchik killed them off. My last failure was Howard Dean. I worked my ass off for him and was on the front page of the state's newspaper (pictured with him) the day of the primary. His 50 state strategy was brilliant but his successors have failed him and the Party and the people. I won't lecture you either and thanks for your reply.
