Maybe a ticket of Jill Stein and Bernie Sanders. All Bernie Sanders followers and Jill Stein will

[Seeinghope]

Allow the Independents will have a place to put their votes

[Trust Buster]

1. I think there's too much ego there. LOL

[bettyellen]

19. they could mud wrestle for the top spot- at Cochacella.

[VulgarPoet]

2. Expect the (for once legitimately) offended screams of the Clintonistas

"NADERITE! NADERITE~!"

[NCTraveler]

3. I never understood why so many people didn't believe EW's own words.

Why don't so many Sanders supporters believe what he says either?

I find it to be a strange phenomenon.

[Recursion]

4. They'd pull 7% of the national vote, if they had a good cycle

If it wouldn't influence the national election, I'd support this, just to get most of Sanders's sheep to understand what a bubble they're in.

[FSogol]

5. Barely 7%.

[Recursion]

7. 7 was being generous (nt)

[MADem]

16. Jill Stein is no H. Ross Perot! Never has been, never will be.

And I doubt Bernie would want to play 2nd fiddle to her. Not on your life!

[Recursion]

17. True. Perot could pull 8% or 9% of the national vote (nt)

[riderinthestorm]

21. Ross Perot won 18% of the popular vote iirc nt

[Recursion]

24. Oh, you're right, I was thinking of '96, now that I look at it

Good point.

[riderinthestorm]

31. And I believe the national mood for a 3rd party run is pretty intense now nt

Bernie has promised he won't run 3rd party and I believe him

[MADem]

36. He pulled more than that when he was a PYT!!!

Almost 19%!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1992

[auntpurl]

6. Do you mean if Bernie wins the nom, Stein as his VP?

Or are you advocating a 3rd party run?

[Seeinghope]

12. We'll have to see who ends up with the nomination but with the establishment partys

Screwing up the process so horribly. A true revolution will have to take some very bold moves.

[brooklynite]

8. Another 49 State loss...

[JTFrog]

9. Still praying he'll pull a Nader eh?

Let's hope the man has more decency than his supporters and keeps his word not to do that after using our party for money and media.

[Codeine]

10. Being a spoiler was so helpful to Ralph Nader's

legacy and reputation.

[MADem]

37. Instead of being known for "Unsafe at Any Speed" he's famous for giving us Porgie!

If you look up "asshole" in the dictionary, there's Ralphie!

[bkkyosemite]

11. No!

[geek tragedy]

13. He'd win 3 electoral votes and lose his seniority in the Senate nt

[SaschaHM]

32. Right.

Sanders is looking at the budget committee chairmanship if he doesn't piss off senate democrats too much if they retake the senate.

[Kalidurga]

14. Nope

Bernie said he wouldn't go third party and I am gonna hold him and us to that. If we are going to choose a third party person it has to be someone else. Jill Stein will have to choose someone who isn't a Democrat or on the Democrat ticket as far as I am concerned. Also if this was to happen despite my objection the only thing that would soften my objection is if Jill was at the top of the ticket.

[pinebox]

20. I'm going to disagree somewhat here

Bernie did say that but that was a very long time ago and you have to remember, he is suing the DNC. His comments were before all the shenanigans started.

[jeepers]

15. The Green party

is only allowed to run in 21 states. Takes quite a bit to get a political party on the ballot and it is a state by state exercise. Was one of Naders bigger obstacles.

Best option is as a write in where he doesn't even need a party affiliation and could easily get on all 43 that allow write ins.

[JoePhilly]

18. When does "3rdPartyUnderground" go live?

[Recursion]

23. The domain is purchased, apparently

$ whois 3rdpartyunderground.com

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and
Registrars.
Domain Name: 3RDPARTYUNDERGROUND.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1734995223_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2012-07-21T06:12:51Z
Creation Date: 2012-07-21T06:12:51Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2017-07-21T06:12:51Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [e-mail]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: [phone]
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: Not Available From Registry
Registrant Name: Asif Khan
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: 815 Sandpiper Dr
Registrant City: Sugar Land
Registrant State/Province: Texas
Registrant Postal Code: 77478
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: [phone]
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: [e-mail]
Registry Admin ID: Not Available From Registry
Admin Name: Asif Khan
Admin Organization:
Admin Street: 815 Sandpiper Dr
Admin City: Sugar Land
Admin State/Province: Texas
Admin Postal Code: 77478
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: [phone]
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: [e-mail]
Registry Tech ID: Not Available From Registry
Tech Name: Asif Khan
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: 815 Sandpiper Dr
Tech City: Sugar Land
Tech State/Province: Texas
Tech Postal Code: 77478
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: [phone]
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: [e-mail]
Name Server: NS11.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS12.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-04-21T16:00:00Z <<<

[dlwickham]

25. I thought that Jack rabbit site was third-party underground

I thought that Jack rabbit site was third-party underground

[JoePhilly]

26. I'd expect some of our 3rd party friends to head over.

They're so unhappy here.

[dlwickham]

30. Is there such a thing as an Internet U-Haul service

Is there such a thing as an Internet U-Haul service

We could always help them pack and move

[nolawarlock]

40. You mean Jacked on Pine Sol? n/t

[dlwickham]

41. That just sounds twisted and nasty

[workinclasszero]

33. Today it looks like

Right here on "Democratic" Underground. SMH

[bettyellen]

22. He can't be on a ticket after losing a bid to be on one. You guys act like this is a freeform

experiment- always shocked there are rules to a contest. Whut?

[Recursion]

27. He absolutely can accept any nomination from the Green party

Actually a candidate can accept the nomination of both the Green and Democratic parties simultaneously, were he or she to seek it, though in 49 states that candidate would only appear on the ballot once.

[Retrograde]

39. Isn't Sanders already the Working Families candidate for president?

Won't he be on the ballot anyway in New York, a state that allows someone to be on multiple party lines (do any other states do this? I don't recall ever seeing it in California).

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

28. We already have places to put our votes. Any candidate we choose.

I expect Jill will pick up more than a few Democratic votes in the GE.

[HERVEPA]

34. Yeh, a Trump presidencty will work out well for everyone.

I can't stand Hillary but it it is incredibly selfish not to vote for her if she's the nominee.. A friggin ego trip by people.

[grntuscarora]

35. Bernie will not risk being a spoiler.

He will not do anything post-convention that might help the Repukes win.
That said, I hope he stays in til convention. Damn it, the party needs to be pulled left, and progressive voices must be heard.

[imagine2015]

38. I like a ticket of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren coming out of the convention.

Such a ticket would demolish any Republican ticket in November.

It would carry all demographic groups except the corporate and Wall Street billionaire communities.

[PeaceNikki]

42. It's hilarious that some Sanders supporters think he's fucking stupid

enough to do something so fucking stupid.

He isn't.

[still_one]

43. LOL

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. Why are you advocating a third party run?

isn't that against the rules?

Curious

[Codeine]

46. It's the "in thing" now, and juries are allowing it.

Third party advocates need to fuck right off, but apparently the rules don't apply to the Bernie fan crowd.

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. I just asked a question and I am serious

why are you advocating what none who is serious has said they will do

[Codeine]

49. I'm not advocating anything, and I answered you seriously.

People are advocating it and juries are allowing it. I think they should all be permabanned for third party advocacy, including the jurors who allowed it to stand.

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. I know some juries are allowing it

while hosts are closing serious issue discussions. Whatever I learn more and more about the new and improved democratic party.

Glad I am not a member of this club

[oberliner]

45. The Green Party is opposed to Independents voting in their primary

STATEMENT FROM GPNY:

We are not surprised by reports of would-be voters in tomorrow's presidential primary discovering that they do not, in fact, belong to the party to which they registered. Many of our members experienced similar frustrations when attempting to register Green.

But the solution to this and other threats to democracy in New York is not so-called "open" primaries, as proposed in a newly-announced lawsuit , but comprehensive voting reforms to support multiparty democracy and a board of elections that operates free from partisan control.

"Open" primaries funnel unaffiliated voters into the corrupt, undemocratic duopoly parties instead of building the grassroots parties we so desperately need. And in a "fusion" voting state like New York, with the odious "Opportunity to Ballot" provision that can force parties to cross-endorse non-members, "open" primaries could obliterate the progress of third parties by flooding them with non-members intent on backing duopoly candidates.

"Open" primaries only serve the short-term interests of unaffiliated voters at the expense of party members who spend time and energy building a fighting organization with a coherent platform and agenda. Should someone who is not a member of a union be allowed to vote for who will be the president of that union? Of course not: a fundamental element of the right to freely assemble is the ability to set reasonable criteria to establish who is a member and who is not.

http://www.gp.org/statement_from_the_green_party_of_ny_on_open_primaries_lawsuit_and_need_for_democratic_reform

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. And just like the dems the Greens can pay for their own primary

[snowy owl]

51. That wouldn't sell. Bernie needs a more establishment VP to unite the two sides.

And to look like he's still in the US boundaries.

[jeepers]

52. Bernie doesn't need to run third party

He can run as a write in without party affiliation.

[SheilaT]

53. That's beyond dumb.

First off, Jill Stein is simply not a credible candidate. Yeah, I know she's the Green Party one, but they are not a credible party.

And Bernie is NOT going to make a third party run. Period. End of discussion. I wish threads like this would get locked every time they get started, because it's a bit hard to believe that anyone here would promote anything like this.

[Adrahil]

54. He won't be a spoiler.

He's smarter than the Bernie or Bust idiots.

[OhZone]

55. Hey, if he does that, and it helps Trump -

Trump can start WW3 and destroy most life on the planet - then in a few million or hundred million years, when a new intelligent species evolves, MAYBE THEY CAN BE SOCIALIST! YAY!