#BlackLives protesters disrupt Hillary Clinton in Philadelphia

[Cheese Sandwich]

Notice the mainstream media blackout of this and other recent disruptions of Clinton events.

Clinton staffer tries to block reporter's video camera

Black Lives movement protesters disrupted a Hillary Clinton campaign event in Philadelphia. A Clinton staffer attempted to block reporters from taking video of the disruption by placing his hand over a video camera.

Link: https://www.facebook.com/tattletotphl/videos/1694373214146131/



Philadelphia Protesters: Hillary Clinton is Killing Black People

Enraged Hillary Bro turns violent against protesters

[NCTraveler]

1. They are the revolution we are currently witnessing.

Love BLM and what they have done to this primary season.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511518764

No rest, no backing down, no fear.

[Cheese Sandwich]

2. uh huh

[NCTraveler]

4. I'm not sure I get your comment. Not sure I'm suppose to.

I don't mince my words here when it comes to institutional racism. I support the protests, I believe Clinton is the one they should be protesting, and I support the "riots" that have occurred.

On the other hand, your "uh huh" makes it pretty clear you are in it for the political points. That is an area I would not venture into with this topic. I will with many other topics.

[Cheese Sandwich]

5. uh huh

[NCTraveler]

6. Two excellent videos for you.

To most of us this topic deserves a little more than "uh huh."

[NurseJackie]

7. Some people won't get it ... others can't get it ... others refuse to get it.

It's pretty obvious which one you're dealing with there. I'll leave it at that instead of having another post hidden. But I think you probably understand what I'm getting at.

[NCTraveler]

8. Spot on.

[Cheese Sandwich]

10. Actually she's not spot on. She's completely confused and off base.

[NCTraveler]

11. She nailed it. You had your "uh huh" moment.

Not even sure what you are arguing at this point. You are making no points. I have been extremely clear. I have more to say on the issue than "uh huh".

[Cheese Sandwich]

13. Nobody's is stopping you from having your opinion.

I just said uh huh. You don't like that.

[NCTraveler]

15. Your reply was meaningles on such a topic.

Why not elaborate on your "uh huh"?

I know why.

[Cheese Sandwich]

19. Honestly, I didn't mean anything by it.

To be completely blunt, I couldn't think of anything good to say and just wanted to kick the thread.

[NCTraveler]

23. "I couldn't think of anything good to say "

This is a progressive board, or it was. We should all have something to say on this topic. I do now get you struggled to "think of anything good to say."

[Cheese Sandwich]

25. No, I have a lot of thoughts on the subject.

Maybe you deserved a better response than Uh huh.

You're not really giving me responses. You're just posting a photo of John Lewis. That's about as deep as "uh huh".

My first thought is I want to know more about this particular protest, and why there's no mainstream media coverage of it.

[NCTraveler]

26. "You're just posting a photo of John Lewis." That is a flat out lie.

Look at what your first "uh huh" was in response to. It had nothing to do with Lewis as you are now claiming.

Then look at your second "uh huh". What did that have to do with Lewis as you are now claiming that is all I posted.

[Cheese Sandwich]

37. I doubted your sincerity.

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. For the record, CNN did cover it last night

as breaking news, though not that footage.

[Zen Democrat]

39. Exactly! Except Hillary Clinton is nowhere NEAR progressive.

She's liberal on women's issues, but that alone does not cover the scope of Progressivism.

Progressives support the following by definition:

Fracking Bans
Ending Privatized Prisons
Legalization of Marijuana
Staying out of and not provoking right-wing coups in Central America
Breaking up the 2 big 2 fail banks
Staying out of wars
Disclosing secret speeches for hundreds of thousands of dollars to Goldman-Sachs
No bosom buddy friendships with Henry Kissinger and the Bush Crime Family
No inclinations to make deals with Republicans on Social Security

For these lapses and more, Hillary Clinton's progressive score is "D". The only reason it's not an "F" is women's issues, but I read where she's open to negotiations with the Republicans on late term abortions. So ... perhaps a "D-".

[PyaarRevolution]

58. Pretty much nailed it.

This goes along with the fracking ban but it can't be said enough she wants "Natural Gas" for a bridge fuel. That's code for "let's transition to Natural Gas and scrap this green thing".
We need to go Green everywhere, come hell or high water, especially considering all these oil spills in addition to those cargo freighters and the disgusting sludge they're burning for fuel.

[Cheese Sandwich]

9. I'm sure your concern is very sincere.

[NCTraveler]

12. My concern for your "uh huh" is not very sincere at all.

He simply said "uh huh"?

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[Cheese Sandwich]

16. People who post pictures and think it makes a point

What are you trying to say by posting a picture of John Lewis?

[ismnotwasm]

18. WTF???????

[Cheese Sandwich]

21. That's Nat Turner

[ismnotwasm]

22. I repeat

WTF?????

[Cheese Sandwich]

29. It's Nat Turner. He led a slave rebellion.

I just thought it was a cool picture. NCT posted a photo of John Lewis for no apparent reason so I just posted a pic of Nat Turner for no reason.

[ismnotwasm]

31. I repeat, WTF????

[NCTraveler]

24. Pictures speak volumes. Join us in our fight.

You really seem to just want to oppose my support of BLM. Actually, not "seem", it all you are doing.

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[Cheese Sandwich]

27. I don't know what you want. That's great. Thank you for your unwavering support of black liberation.

[NCTraveler]

28. Not looking for your thanks. I am showing your dismissal at every turn. nt.

[ismnotwasm]

30. Yes--The deaths in the AA community should be a concern for all of us.

Not used for cheap primary coinage.

I know #BLM isn't fond of Hillary or Sanders.

I still stand with #BLM

[NCTraveler]

33. Some truly seem to take issue with that.

BLM took over the verbiage of this primary very early on. They did it pretty brilliantly and courageously.

[Cheese Sandwich]

34. OK you win. Uh huh is about as shallow and dumb response as anyone could give.

You are the winner of this exchange.

You're right.

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. Have you been in the streets?

Becuase I have... posting photos is not as significant as actual real support

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And by the way, #justiceforsd33 has to do with CPC 182.5

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The echos to the 1960s in this Black and White is not accidental

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. I will post a CURRENT news story

links are in the news story to the whole context, Before you say some of us don't support it

Oh and before you read it, think Freddie Gray...

https://reportingsandiego.com/2016/04/20/state-of-mind-during-the-confrontation-between-branch-and-detective-ward/

More to come on Tuesday.

By the way, these kinds of hearings do not last this long usually.

[snowy owl]

43. Me, too. It is time for disruptive politics and everyone should be joining in. Esp. minorities.

[Punkingal]

3. Wow.

[EndElectoral]

14. yeah...some of these Hillary supporters posts are becoming incomprehensible.

[shanti]

53. i only see three replies

haven't missed much, lol

[Lizzie Poppet]

54. Yours was the last (53rd) reply as I post this...and I see 8. LOL

I bet Prncess Weathervane's Ostrich Army are losing their shit over this.

[Art_from_Ark]

64. Wow

I only saw 8 posts before yours, too.

[ismnotwasm]

17. I stand with BLM

No matter WHO they are protesting.

[Bobbie Jo]

20. Yep

I say good on them.

I stand with BLM.

[loyalsister]

57. Absolutely

I supported them when they disrupted Bernie Sander's event, too. I have not once seen Hillary Clinton treat them with same respect Bernie has.

[northernsouthern]

32. I think they are doing good.

But I am on the fence of if they gain more from interrupting as forceful as the do. I am not sure if the press they gain offsets the negative image that some people get. With Bernie they were yelling in the old guy's face...it was a bit painful to watch...but they did get their message out. I always like the loud group protests that are less close, like in the first video because they show strength, but is is far easier to just ignore them...which as I said leaves me back on the fence.

Has anyone read studies on the effects of a more aggressive vs passive protest?

[NCTraveler]

36. "With Bernie they were yelling in the old guy's face...it was a bit painful to watch..."

"Has anyone read studies on the effects of a more aggressive vs passive protest? "

I say this very respectfully as I believe many ask that same exact question. I'm not sure we need to go to research.

The Seattle protest you are talking about is one of the smallest yet most impactful protest we have seen in the last couple of years. No one denies that the very next day Sanders changed his stump speech and came out with different proposals addressing social justice. Literally the day after the protest you mention. They completely changed the direction of the campaign. That was huge. While Clinton was already addressing social justice, she also increased the amount of time she dedicated to the issue on the trail.

That was just with one in your face protest that involved very few people.

[northernsouthern]

40. I meant literally painful, as in medically

The Seattle protest you are talking about is one of the smallest yet most impactful protest we have seen in the last couple of years. No one denies that the very next day Sanders changed his stump speech and came out with different proposals addressing social justice. Literally the day after the protest you mention. They completely changed the direction of the campaign. That was huge. While Clinton was already addressing social justice, she also increased the amount of time she dedicated to the issue on the trail.

I honestly don't like it when people paint my candidate as the one that was not addressing social injustice, I have always seen it as actions speak louder than words. I grew up with Hillary, and I did not see a person going out of their way to help the black people in my town, I saw a person that took pictures on porches with black families come election time, and a guy that appointed some people for positions to appease the communities. I think he even signed for a black with brain damage to be executed when he was running for office. Don't get me wrong if all you can get is lip service it is better than nothing. It seems that the reason that they actually choose Sanders and his supporters were "sympathetic to racial justice issues", so by going to such a group they stood the chance to gain the largest gain...thus hoping the Sander's support would then cause other groups to fall in. I think this is a logical step. I still wish she would have moved a few inches out of that guy's face (unless she was hoping for an arrest to help publicity), because getting that close and yelling in someone's ear is assault (it loud enough) as you can actually permanently damage someone's ear when you hit 125 for more than 6 seconds...and the louder the more instant. (https://lasermom.wordpress.com/2012/01/08/crying/) I was looking at it from a damage point on that one since I have had to take many hearing tests and I know the second you fire a loud gun with no ear protection you lose your upper range instantly. I was all for the screaming, I wonder if they would have tried to talk to him after they screamed it it would have helped more...but as the article says and I even remember the interview, they didn't want to be part of the system.

Many critics of Marissa suggested she go after and interrupt GOP candidates. Black Lives Matter activists don’t represent 3% of their constituents. Black lives Matter is rarely accepted in the GOP, and would be wasting their breath. Some other suggested they go after Hillary Clinton. While they certainly could, they may not have that 3% necessary to flip her positions.
But with Bernie Sanders, BLM activists have that 3%. Many of Bernie’s supporters are already sympathetic to racial justice issues, and it takes comparatively little effort to encourage them to support a specific action plan for racial justice in the candidate’s platform. And guess what? They got it.
Within days of the confrontation, the Sanders campaign unveiled a racial justice platform. In his next campaign speech in Portland, Ore, attended by over 26,000, he opened with his new platform on racial justice. For the cost of planning the takeover of the stage, BLM activists changed a major Presidential candidate’s platform.

Read more at http://www.solutions-institute.org/the-three-percent-why-black-lives-matter-seattle-won-when-they-interrupted-bernie-sanders/#7lrj5ycf2u8OlAGK.99



http://www.solutions-institute.org/the-three-percent-why-black-lives-matter-seattle-won-when-they-interrupted-bernie-sanders/

[NCTraveler]

42. Thank you for the reply.

Sanders did not appear to be in any danger. The protesters were not assaulting nor did they appear to be dangerous to Sanders health. I'm not really going to comment more on that as I viewed it as a peaceful protest. Anything I would say about painting them as assaulting Sanders would simply stop all discussion.

One of BLM's greatest moves was to protest Clinton and Sanders. We fully agree there. Protest where you can have the most impact.

It's common knowledge that Sanders came out of the gate promoting economic solutions to just about everything. That does not mean he has never addressed or care about some of the social aspects. It was simply his message out of the gate and it was a good move on his part. That says nothing about his career. Just that point in time and it's accurate.

There is also no denying that his stump speeches underwent massive changes after Seattle. It had to happen. He also ramped up that aspect of his website the following week.

My comments here and above are not negative on Sanders.

[snowy owl]

46. Sanders position on economic justice will do much to raise social justice.

I think that's why he emphasized/targeted economic justice first. When economic fairness prevails, everyone benefits socially as well as economically. Nothing like a job and paycheck to give people stability. But I also think it was wise to be explicit about social justice.

Wasn't Seattle one of the first Bernie speeches to actually hear from BLM? I think that's why it was sort of jostling. Now I get it and I think it is important. I was disappointed when the occupy movement seemed to disappear.

[NCTraveler]

55. "Sanders position on economic justice will do much to raise social justice."

Fully agree. Much of that verbiage alone wasn't being used. What he was outlining at the time would lift all at the bottom economic status into a "more comfortable" place while bringing down those with extreme earnings. He was also addressing making government more accountable to everyone. Both great messages. But when you have severely oppressed groups, you directly address them. That is the change he made the day after Seattle. His message is excellent. I'm not knocking it.

[northernsouthern]

50. Lol, not Bernie, the other guy.

Him...


Again I work with some tools that can cause damage and I have gone trough too many safety and hearing loss courses (I always wear plugs to the movie theater).



She stayed more like 10 inches or so from Bernie's ear, but it was aimed in to the canal which I still was not a fan of.




And here are what I was talking about as fallout, people disgusted by the way they did this. But it may have been worth it.

Also I think it is a bit sad someone as real as Bernie will lose to my ex-governor couple from the south because of brand name recognition.

[NCTraveler]

56. Poor guys are ok. Lol nt

[northernsouthern]

59. I am sure they are fine.

I just don't like the fact that they could have actually damaged some nice old guy's hearing. Can't we at least agree that shouting in the the ears of someone is not a good thing to do? I am fine with the protest, but not hurting people especially older people. You can bet if this was Hillary there would have been tons of fake outrage and a little justified over the way she was yelling in to his ear and grabbing him...it is a little double standardish.

Also the people that liked the video and ran with it are some anti-semitic freaks...(look at the title for the video)

[aikoaiko]

60. Johnson admits the Seattle protest was to take out Bernie because

she considered him a sheepdog for liberals on the Democratic side.

The Seattle protest did not change his stump speech much except to incorporate more BLM specific language.

This is Bernie Sanders doing his stump speech before NN16 and Seattle.

[jfern]

63. In fact, I think that was the day before the first BLM protest

[jfern]

62. Hillary still supports the racist death penalty

The idea that she was ever better than Bernie on social justice is absurd.

[rbrnmw]

35. Good for BlackLivesMatter

I stand with them above anything else

[northernsouthern]

41. Dude you hate Cornell West.

Sucks he is not allowed to have an opinion. But it is nice to know he has a job doing dirty work, perhaps he can get a job with Hillary since that sounds like that is right up her avenue.

[Cheese Sandwich]

51. !

[In_The_Wind]

61. Seriously ...

[snowy owl]

47. the absence of media is democracy's greatest tragedy. It took Bernie... hope it will last.

Nobody has worked harder to create a movement and that is his ultimate goal. Who will take over? Who has the honest and respected reputation to actually keep this going?

[Cheese Sandwich]

49. Darletta can be the leader

[nadinbrzezinski]

52. Those of us who cover poltiical rallies can tell you why

We essentially ARE in a press pit, and getting out of it, for any reason, can be a problem. This is especially the case when the Secret Service is running the show. With Cruz I was able to get much closer, and get a few photos on the rope line (my bag is much better thank you) because that was not a secret service show.

I am sharing this as insight.