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[SidDithers]

1. Goodman. LOL...nt

Sid

[Admiral Loinpresser]

85. Welcome to "full ignore." n/t

[SidDithers]

86. I'm crushed...nt

Sid

[ismnotwasm]

2. H.A. Goodman!!

[Admiral Loinpresser]

88. Welcome to "full ignore." n/t

[geek tragedy]

3. Do you have something not written by the Internet's biggest moron? nt

[brooklynite]

14. I dunno...between him, Abramson and the "Rational Progressive" I'd say they'e neck and neck

[SidDithers]

18. The Trifecta of Stupid!...

Or maybe the Axis of Idiocy.

I can go either way

Sid

[geek tragedy]

26. duo of dumb dudebros nt

[Admiral Loinpresser]

89. Welcome to "full ignore." n/t

[Beacool]

94. Yeah, Abramson, the other delusional fool.

Does someone actually pay them to write their wet dreams? Everything they write is drivel based on wishful thinking and not reality. Two nut jobs.

[Unicorn]

96. Can I ask, what you classify yourself as? You aparently have great disdain for Liberal Dems with

that post. And, progressive is out of the question since you just attacked a regarded progressive voice with normal progressive values. Are you a strong moderate?

[Beacool]

97. I have great disdain for the nonsense that Goodman and Abramson write.

I don't disdain liberals, but at some point reality will hit Sanders' supporters. Even if he won every single primary that's left in the calendar, Hillary would still be ahead in pledged delegates. Hillary will more likely than not win PA, MD and CT. Not sure about RI and DE, as there hasn't been any recent polling. She'll easily win my state (NJ) and she's up in the polls in CA. What realistic path does Sanders have to surpass her lead in pledged delegates?

[Unicorn]

98. Honestly, I have no idea what the Sanders' plan is now.

I will support him until the end of the primary because he reflects my values.

[Beacool]

99. That's fine, I have no problem with Sanders staying until the last vote has been cast.

I do have a huge problem with his staffers (Weaver and Devine) suggesting that they would subvert democracy and fight on the convention floor to try to convince super delegates to switch to Sanders, even if he lags in pledged delegates and the popular vote. That's undemocratic and will never happen. It's beyond offensive that they would even suggest that the nominee should be the losing candidate. In 2008 Hillary had the support of most super delegates, but once Obama was ahead in the pledged delegate count, they did the right thing and switched to Obama. This year won't be any different. BTW, in 2008 Obama was ahead by a tad over 100 delegates. Hillary is currently ahead by 277 pledged delegates and her delegate count is probably going to increase after next Tuesday.

[PeaceNikki]

4. lolok

[JoePhilly]

5. HAHA Goodman!!!! Always good for a laugh.

[pdsimdars]

46. One thing I think that is funny is that these are the same people who ridicule the

right wing voters from only getting their information from FOX and not listening to information they don't want to hear.

It is exactly what they are doing, . . they don't want to know about it, so they pretend it isn't real, won't even listen to it. Just as ignorant as those they have criticized.

[TimeToEvolve]

58. just like how the Pukes worship FOX. Likewise HRC crowd worships the con artists at 538.com,

whose corporate logo is... a.. filthy......FOX.... hmmm

[bjo59]

81. They have nothing but ad hominem attacks,

I find it mind blowing that this sort of "campaign" can be kept up for so long. Nothing but high school level put downs of anyone who writes anything supporting Sanders or anything critiquing Clinton's very well known record. You would think they would bore themselves to tears. The strategy is obvious (keep responding to nuanced, varied and researched critique with the same vapid put downs over and over and over again. It's a tried and true argumentation strategy for folks who got nothin'). The longer Clinton stays in the race the more party election board "shenanigans" comes to light, the more replay of Clinton's scandal ridden career appears in the press, and so forth. Her campaign needs him out like yesterday and it must be nerve inducing and infuriating for them to realize that, because he's beholden to no one but the citizens who support him, he can't be threatened to drop out of the race. Tough luck!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

7. #FeelTheDesperation

[onehandle]

8. Salon needs to rebrand as 'NotHillary.'

Maybe then they would get some of that sweet, sweet 'Not Hillary' Party cash and not be so totally broke.

[CrowCityDem]

9. How to never work again: Write garbage like this.

[Octafish]

30. That, or cross the wrong people, right?

How undemocratic, though.

[haikugal]

35. We all know there's a list.....democracy, who needs it right?

[NurseJackie]

10. Is you okay, Boo?

[RandySF]

11. H.A. Goodman is a fraud

Writing nothing but fiction to give false hope to Bernie's supporters. I wish someone would ask whether he is getting paid, under the table, by Jeff Weaver.

[RandySF]

38. What good is a case when the DA is a liar?

[AgingAmerican]

103. Perhaps the FBI is just making the whole thing up!

[LexVegas]

44. No it isn't. nt

[LexVegas]

50. Lt. Gen is a 3 star. But, cool story bro. nt

[pdsimdars]

48. Crazy how deep and dark the denial is. I've listened to these people and it is shocking the

disconnect here.

[Bobbie Jo]

15. Didn't even have to click.

[BeanMusical]

41. Yeah, that's pathetic.

[think]

21. Thank you for the relevant back ground information. /nt

[leveymg]

17. Sham? No question she runs a machine, and it runs her, and steamrolls everything in its way. But,

the germaine question: is Hillary still viable as a candidate if the FBI Report reflects that facts that have already been reported? Even if Comey takes a sort of middle road and merely finds she violated the terms of her signed Classified Information Agreement (which is essentially the same as a finding she violated specific federal laws), I don't see how the DNC and White House and the Convention Rules Committee can put her back together sufficiently to run as the Democratic Party's candidate. It just doesn't seem plausible that she's going to be President, or even make it to the November Ballot.

I do understand however the perceived need for the Kabuki Theater that she is still the Democratic front-runner. That is to keep the cats herded in the right direction, as the party elites see it, and to prevent panic by her supporters and rebellion by the base, particularly the Bernie wing of the party. It's like there's an incoming asteroid and nothing that can really be done to prevent it. Do you tell the public, or not, until it's visible to the naked eye? Probably not.

Sham? Hmmm . . . more like an expeditious illusion.

[haikugal]

36. Well put, thank you.

[think]

20. Direct link to Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn's interview:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/12/politics/hillary-clinton-michael-flynn-email-fbi-investigation/

[jwirr]

23. You are so correct. In the 50s people would not vote for

Adlai Stevenson because he had been divorced. Today we are able to vote for someone who is being investigated by the FBI.

[libdem4life]

62. And in the 60s, JFK was ... gasp ... Catholic. n/t

[Baobab]

24. Watch the Chicago board of election video- starting at 25:00

This is insanity

[grasswire]

25. the response here from the delusional is proof of what Goodman says.

Thank you for posting this.

People who are proud Democrats do not dismiss the FBI's investigation. They fear the conclusion, yes, but they value truth more than blind allegiance to a cult of personality.

[pdsimdars]

45. Every person with any expertise in the intelligence community is outraged by what Hillary did

It is only the uninformed here who are dismissive.

[NCTraveler]

29. It is common knowledge at this point the Goodman is using LIV's to do his ratfucking for him.

Shouldn't be this easy for someone like him.

[Octafish]

32. Some people don't think much of integrity, it seems.

The Clintons and Wall Street: 24 Years of Enriching Each Other

by RICHARD W. BEHAN
CounterPunch, FEBRUARY 26, 2016

EXCERPT...

President Clinton appointed Robert Rubin, the Co-chairman of Goldman-Sachs, as his Treasury Secretary in January of 1995. Mr. Rubin went to work fashioning two laws of stupendous value to the New York banks, but President Clinton’s first term of office ended before they could be enacted.

Perhaps sensing the need to assure Clinton’s re-election, Wall Street saw fit nearly to triple its campaign contributions—from $11.17 million in 1992 to $28.37 million in 1996.

Continued nicely in office, Secretary Rubin triumphed with the passage of the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, which repealed the Glass-Steagall legislation of 1933. Now it was legal once more for financial institutions to mix commercial and investment banking; in essence, to use depositors’ funds for trading the bank’s own account in the stock market.

A year later President Clinton signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. This law ended the regulation of derivatives, freeing Wall Street to manufacture mortgage-backed securities and sell them without restriction; these complex derivatives would power the “subprime” swindle soon to commence.

Meanwhile, in Clinton’s Justice Department a deputy Attorney General named Eric Holder in 1999 authored a memo entitled “Bringing Criminal Charges Against Corporations.” It became the Holder Doctrine, and after the financial crisis of 2008 it would be of incalculable value to the Wall Street banks. On leaving the Administration Mr. Holder joined Covington Burling, the largest law firm in Washington, D.C.. Among its clients were Morgan Stanley, Citigroup, JP Morgan Chase, UBS, Bank of New York Mellon, Deutsche Bank, Wells Fargo, and Bank of America.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/26/the-clintons-and-wall-street-24-years-of-enriching-each-other/

[MineralMan]

33. H. A. Goodman again?

He never gets anything right. I can't imagine why anyone seriously posts anything he writes on DU.

[Dem2]

34. HA!

Goodman!

[workinclasszero]

37. So all a person has to do is accuse someone

and their whole life gets put on hold till they are cleared huh?

Even if it takes decades??

Fuck off Goodman. I don't want to live in your fascist world!

[oberliner]

39. "Hillary Clinton Will Finish Third In Iowa, Behind Bernie Sanders and O’Malley. Here’s Why"

From the same author.

[pdsimdars]

51. Ah, so you think that if anyone has ever said something that wasn't quite right that nothing

they say in the future matters?

Is that the BS you're trying to push?

Man that is one of the stupidest things I've read today.

And if that is the case, you certainly can't believe anything the Clinton campaign says. They said Bernie wouldn't win any states, or maybe only Vermont. Oops! Everything they say from then on must be dismissed, right?

[oberliner]

53. "Bernie Sanders Will Win Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina. Here’s Why."

All of his articles are like that.

[Adrahil]

40. HA HA Goodman has gone into overdrive!!!!

He's still predicting Clinton will come in third!

[pdsimdars]

42. And the FBI thinks to tie this up in May, with their interview with Hillary.

But this OP is a very clear statement of the way things are.

Did you know they have 2 emails from Hillary instructing one of her staff to remove the classified markings from a message and to send it through non-secure fax.

[LexVegas]

43. ...

[MrWendel]

54. awwwwwwwwwwww.....

[MrWendel]

56. Nahhhhh....

to the White house. So I guess her response would be....



Don't take my word for it. Ask Trey Gowdy.

[MrWendel]

59. Just....

the right substance so the shit people are desperately throwing isn't sticking.

[all american girl]

106. Is't he working with Trump now?

[Tarc]

60. Gaze over the cauldron...add the eye of newt...the toe of frog...and speaketh thrice THE NAME

INDICTMENT FAIRY!
INDICTMENT FAIRY!
INDICTMENT FAIRY!

[libdem4life]

66. In sports it's called "in the zone" In this case it's "in the bubble". n/t

[Tarc]

67. The people "speaking them" are Republican Clinton obsessives

and a handful of Camp Sanders followers who, realizing they have no viable path to the nomination, are carrying the GOP's water as a last resort.

[Tarc]

72. Former DIA head, now a talking head for cable media

If you watch the actual exchange, Jake Tapper make him look like an idiot, repeatedly asking if he had any evidence of the wrongdoing that Flynn alleged.

The guy was a moron, but if you wanna suck up tho his ilk, be my guest...

[Tarc]

74. Aww, looks I like I hit a nerve

Btw, I just found out he is now an adviser to Donald Trump, so, triple

Michael Flynn is a moron, and now an enabler of a vile, xenophobic racist canidate in Trump. These are some seriously new lows that the Sanders camp has sunk to.

[Tarc]

77. Oh is that so? Allow me to add a few more

That expresses my utter contempt and derision for someone who cites a Donald Trump acolyte to attack Clinton.

[libdem4life]

64. Such 3rd grade level posts of silliness.

ETA: these are the posts of those calling out Goodman? Yikes already.

[libdem4life]

79. We're on the same page here. There are facts here.

I ijust can't get over the Group Think of about 10 posts within 5-10 minutes over some writer. To me, that says there is definitely a itchy spot needing a scratch.

And whenever one asks What Information Was Wrong...crickets. But the one-liner childish retorts cause one to wonder about the level of the, uh, communication.

[Tarc]

80. The OP's cited "expert" is a Donald Trump adviser

That pretty much says it all.

[workinclasszero]

87. Wow I wonder how many Bernie fans are on Trumps

payroll?

Judging by all the horseshit that's getting shoveled in DU today I'd guess a whole bunch!

[libdem4life]

105. Trump's Trolls!!! Indeed. LOL. n/t

[nolawarlock]

61. The party's over.

[JSup]

69. Come on, guys...

...let them blow off their steam.

All we're doing with this back and forth is turning each other into reactionaries.

[Codeine]

90. We're just being Message Board Dicks, actually, as is our wont.

None of this affects the Real World. Nobody with a healthy mind is allowing GD-P to impact their actual thought processes.

[Beacool]

95. Losing sucks, we Hillary supporters lived through it in 2008.

But, Abramson and Goodman are just plain delusional and nuts.

[Gothmog]

83. HA Goodman can always be counted on for a laugh

[asuhornets]

84. For real?

Ain't nobody tell me nothin'.

[PowerToThePeople]

91. It is a failure, not a success.

If it was a success, she would have improved her numbers over time.

She is a failure. A David v Goliath fight where Goliath only wins because by making it 15 rounds.

[IdaBriggs]

92. Thank you for sharing.

Should be soon. I almost feel sorry for them.

Almost.

[Beacool]

93. Goodman???????????

The guy is delusional.

[reddread]

100. remember those photos of Bernie in the cradle of the civil rights movement?

you know, the ones he supposedly wasnt in?


now there is some delusional activity

[Beacool]

104. What does that have to do with the drivel that Goodman writes on a regular basis?

Besides, I didn't question Sanders' bona fides when it came to his activist years in Chicago.

[reddread]

110. youre right

no comparison

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

101. I'm a Sanders supporter and *I* think Goodman is full of crap.

I don't like irrational partisans of either stripe. He's just as ridiculous for Bernie as Amanda Marcotte is for Hillary.

[Botany]

102. Good God in Butter

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016153268

[leftynyc]

107. LOL

Goodman again. The delusion runs strong through this clown. Sounds like he's at the bargaining stage.

[pinebox]

108. While Hillary supporters mock Goodman....

This is a thing based in reality.
So go ahead, mock away and deny what's happening. America sees through it.


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/fbi-director-democratic-convention-not-deadline-clinton-email-investigation-n560026

[Scuba]

111. Hillary's supporters are OK with throwing the election to the Republicans. Doesn't matter ...

... to them at all, perhaps because the policy positions match up so well.