2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy should I vote for an Imperialist / Hawk?
Please, someone make the case.
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)Your silence is deafening.
MineralMan
(151,269 posts)berniepdx420
(1,784 posts)
Hillary is a D.I.N.O
Avalux
(35,015 posts)At least that's what people are telling me when I ask that question.
I hate it.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)None of us should.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Think if another Justice Kagan gets on there how long Gov. Don Siegelman will have to stay in prison.
hack89
(39,181 posts)I can't imagine him starting any wars, can you?
woolldog
(8,791 posts)Stay home if you like. Who cares?
I'm tired of these "look at me" threads where Sanders supporters pout about how impure Clinton is and solicit Clinton supporters to prostate themselves before the poster and beg for the poster's vote, all of these reasons the Clinton supporter will cite the poster already knows and will inevitably reject.
Stay the fuck home if you want to. No one is going to beg you for your insignificant vote.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)If you lost people in a misguided war, you tend to understand his question.
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djean111
(14,255 posts)Just don't click on the OPs, would be a good solution. No one is gonna obey you, you know that, right?
woolldog
(8,791 posts)Where did I order anyone to do anything? I told him he can do whatever the hell he wants. And he can. But don't think for a second that you or the others threatening not to vote for Clinton because your e-feelings are hurt amount to a hill of beans.
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)because she is nonstop I,I,I. I counted 14 times in two minutes in one opening statement.
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)...she is so breathtakingly narcissistic
msongs
(73,754 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Dem2
(8,178 posts)So, no, I don't recommend you vote for that.
LexVegas
(6,959 posts)Stuckinthebush
(11,203 posts)Why would I vote for a one-issue guy who has no experience as a Democrat and very little support on either side of the aisle?
But I'll vote for him if he wins the Dem nomination. Yep. Gladly with a lot of gusto.
For the primary? Nah.
seekthetruth
(504 posts)I would say that a vote for a disastrous war and support for further fracking, which releases a gas some 60% more toxic to our atmosphere than CO2, is not "insignificant" facets on one candidate's platform.
You shouldn't support, if you're a progressive, a "Hawk" or an "Imperialist", and anyone who says that you should just to keep <fill in the blank Republican> out of office isn't a true progressive.
I read on another post that those of us who support Sanders and refuse to tow the party-line gave us Bush back in 2000 when people supported Nader. The problem with that logic is that I would take a President Gore any day over a President H. Clinton. I do not support unnecessary wars, and I do not support those who vote for such wars.
My vote is my voice, and yours is too. Use it to your voice your beliefs, otherwise what in the hell is the point?
Plus, if Hillary thinks that inserting Warren into her campaign as a running mate is going to help her capture us Progressives to "unify" the <corporate> party, she's going to experience some true backlash.
I would be sorely disappointed in Warren if she aligned herself with H. Clinton, but something tells me that Warren has true values that cannot be swayed with the temptation of power. H. Clinton, on the other hand, can be. Just look at the bankruptcy legislation that Warren opposed that sided with single mothers vs. the banking industry. H. Clinton supported Warren, but when it was politically advantageous to switch her allegiance, she didn't hesitate one moment to take that corporate cash.
A shame!
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)You should vote for Hillary instead.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)actslikeacarrot
(464 posts)...in the dem party. Painfully obvious during this primary.
On edit: also, nobody is making a case. A lot of "fuck you's" and "vote for whom you want". Speaks volumes.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I'm not ever going to make that false case.
Starry Messenger
(32,381 posts)Squinch
(59,522 posts)clg311
(119 posts)That has kept women Imperialists/Warmongers out of the oval office. Women should have the same right as men to kill innocent civilians. That's what the suffragettes fought for.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)Most of us didn't vote for Hillary for that same reason in 2008. No reason to think she has gotten better after playing chess with Libya.