Bill Clinton Blames Millennials For Anger, Economy, Congress

[TimeToEvolve]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-clinton-blames-millennials_us_57191d13e4b0d0042da88c9f

bill clinton once again showing us all that he has not one shred of personal integrity; by not owning up to the shite- sandwich he and his cronies created , problems were kicked down the road and now the young generation is going to have to find a way to deal with it. and in his delusion all this crap is the fault of the millenial generation of which i am one of. typical clinton dishonesty.

[arikara]

1. If heaven forbid he gets to be first dude

I hope they won't call him Big Dog anymore. Big Bonehead suits him better nowadays.

[Art_from_Ark]

42. I want to make a joke with "Big" and a form of "Bone",

but I'll just leave it to the imagination

[djean111]

2. And then Hillary announces a plan to ask them for money.

Jeezy creezy.
And WTF.
Get the hook.

[winter is coming]

11. Shhh. I don't think they should change a thing. n/t

[840high]

3. Go away Bill.

[Firebrand Gary]

4. Way to go Bill Clinton, it's the truth and its the reason Sander's lost the democratic nomination.

Edited to add.

Dishonestly, in 2008 the hit job on Hillary was that she wasn't a progressive, that she would sell out the party. The vast majority of liberals believed that, so they voted for Obama.

In 2010 those "progressives" were no where to be found and our party got fucked for a generation! Redistricting, a intrenched GOP house and a massive loss of state legislative races.

Now those same people are back and this time the party ain't buying, thank god!

[TM99]

8. Yes, because all of these college students

who want 'free shit' were of voting age six years ago.

Think man, think!

[Firebrand Gary]

17. Progressives.

We are all progressives. I was very specific, the people who vilified HRC in 08 did not show up to vote for democrats and support the person that they launched into office. Hillary supporters have watched the same tactics AGAIN and this time it's not working.

Hillary's supporters in 2008 came to vote for President Obama and to his defense, we showed up to the polls in 2010! This time we're doing it our way. You're welcome to show up to the polls in November AND in 2018, just like we did and if you do, it's very likely the candidate that you prefer in 2024 will also be the nominee.

[TM99]

18. Can't vote for a person who isn't

a progressive in the least.

But don't worry your pretty little head, I always vote.

[Firebrand Gary]

19. Nice condescension.

It's people like you that gets conservatives into power. I believe in the American people, I believe that their are enough of them to override your third party write in.

[TM99]

21. It is people like you who put conservatives in power.

Clinton is a conservative, not a progressive liberal. She is center right with neoliberal economic policies, some very moderate come-to-lately social issues, and decidedly neocon in her foreign policy positions.

I am a part of the American people on the left, and we are sick to death of the Clinton New Dems.

[Firebrand Gary]

23. One day you will regret your words.

Likely after she breaks the glass ceiling, builds a whole new democratic party, appoints 3 liberal justices to the supreme court and has a Presidential library of her own. Maybe then you will say to yourself "Maybe I could have been more optimistic"

[TM99]

24. Me, more optimistic?

This coming from the No We Can't Crowd?!?!?

The Clintons already took over the Democratic Party. She won't appoint three. Oh, and yes, that Presidential library and her being a woman is super important for this country.

Jesus, it is always with the vagina for y'all. We aren't voting for her because she is a woman but because her policies and positions harm us and benefit the worst of the 1%.

[apcalc]

55. No way is Clinton a conservative

Have you been paying attention to what conservatives are saying and doing?

Have you been in a bubble?

[TM99]

61. Fascinating projection you got going.

You apparently are in a bubble.

The Clintons are neoliberals and she is also a neocon.

They are center right New Dems.

Yes, Virginia, they are conservatives.

[AgingAmerican]

63. She is satisfied with the status quo

That's the definition of 'conservative'.

[demosincebirth]

12. You hit the nail right on the head! touche

[Firebrand Gary]

20. Thanks friend!

I'm over the lies and when I see them I am going to call them out.

[Avalux]

53. Wow! You must really hate young people. Good luck with that. n/t

[gordianot]

5. Well darn maybe those millennials woke up.

2010-2016 that is six years.

[oldandhappy]

6. This is just crazy.

Dear Mr. President, Where were you in all this? Were you getting out the vote? This is not helping the run for president which I assume you support. You are chasing off voters. You and the DNC and DWS and our county chair are all manipulating this election in the wrong direction for the results I assume you want. So you blame millennials? I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

[KPN]

32. Great post! Laugh because crying is best used for grief or joy.

And now is not the time to grieve. Now is the time to be strong, resolute, and persistent.
If we can do that, if we can stay committed, we can win this thing in the end -- maybe not this Presidential election, but soon enough. If we do that, with the millennials help we can and will either take over the Democratic Party, or we will break and replace it with a better party that stands up for and aggressively promotes our interests and basic democratic principles once again.

[oldandhappy]

49. well said.

[Aerows]

57. This is where the DNC and DWS got us.

It's a shitty place.

[oldandhappy]

60. yup!

[Unicorn]

7. Bill would do best to stop talking.

He was way better at talking 16 years go. I don't know what happened there.

The elders I know get wiser with age.

[dinkytron]

9. I want him to keep talking. He's like a creepy Uncle at this point.

[Major Hogwash]

10. Like the Drunk Uncle character on SNL.

With a bullhorn.

[Kittycat]

16. He's yelling, "Get off my lawn!!!'"

And Hillary's beating them over the head and telling them to, "put a dollar in the bucket before you go, Maddi!"

[Art_from_Ark]

46. LOL!

[SheilaT]

13. Millennials aren't even remotely responsible for

what's happening today. The oldest would be all of about 33 years old.

It's all of the older generations that are responsible.

Let's start with the so called "greatest" generation. I'm sorry, but they do not deserve that adoration. Yes, they were those who fought in WWII, and I don't disparage that, but then when they came back from the war, they entered an economy that was absolutely booming. They got married. They had kids. They bought homes. They had jobs that paid excellent wages which went up with productivity (what a novel concept!) and they could afford to have a wife/mother who stayed home, they could go on a two week vacation every year, they could buy a home, they could send their kids to the local public university. Life was good for them. Yes, they worked hard, but they reaped the benefits of that work.

Ever since then, starting about 1980, maybe a bit earlier, maybe a bit later, wages stagnated. College, public college, became increasingly expensive. The cost of owning a home skyrocketed. It became impossible to live as a family if both parents didn't work.

Need I go on?

Bill and Hillary Clinton helped set up the world we now live in, and since they are themselves fabulously wealthy, they haven't a clue what it's like for the rest of us.

[KPN]

28. Spot on!

[SheilaT]

45. Thank you.

I'm a Boomer myself, born in 1948. I used to read old Life magazines, starting with their first issue in November, 1936. Boy, did I learn a lot. The ads alone are incredibly informational.

But to stick to this topic, it was glaringly obvious to me that the war generation really did benefit enormously. Again, I don't want to dismiss their genuine sacrifices, but just from reading the old Life magazines it was obvious to the most casual observer that they did very well in the aftermath of the war.

Some time later I did a more rigorous analysis, using Census data, which confirmed my suspicions. The adults of that era, who'd been punished during the Depression, who'd fought in WWII, who'd been forced to save money during the war, reaped enormous benefits once the war ended. Their savings became the down payments on the houses in which they raised their children -- the Boomer genereation. They did without many material goods, but now could buy, and (more importantly) could afford to buy, the amazing array of consumer goods that were now coming to market.

As a bit of a side note, one of thie things that to me was astonishingly obvious in my reading of old Life's, was that the Civil Rights Movement was inevitable. During the war, African Americans were for the very first time ever, getting good jobs at good pay. No longer was being a cleaning lady the only possible employment for a black woman. Black men were holding jobs previously only available to white men, and often at the wages the white me used to command. So in terms of the Civil Rights Movement, thank God for WWII.

Again, thank you for appreciating my post.

[whatchamacallit]

14. Old, rich, white, bigoted, blithering... Just what we needed, another Clinton White House.

WAY TO GO DEMOCRATS!

[Mnpaul]

15. It's never the Clinton's fault

must blame someone else

[Onlooker]

22. Barely 20% of millennials voted in 2010 and 14, and only voted 55-44% Democratic

Millennials are fairly responsible for our current Congress. No way around it. Even if they got Bernie elected (like they got Obama elected), they'd lose interest and saddle Bernie with a right-wing Congress. Not sure what to do about that.

[Firebrand Gary]

26. +1000

Best articulation to date: they'd lose interest and saddle Bernie with a right-wing Congress.

[KPN]

27. Not sure what to do about that???? What the fuck???

Are you friggin kidding me??!! You just do and propose things that address their interests directly -- not 40 fucking years later through incremental fucking steps!

Jesus Christ!!!

No wonder the Democratic Party is in trouble!!!

[Onlooker]

33. Are you saying millennials are greedy or just ignorant of what Obama did his first two years?

... He got the stimulus bill that created tens of thousands of jobs, invested heavily in alternative energy, increased college education grants, extended unemployment benefits by months, expanded Americorps, forgave student loans of 400,000 disabled students, helped lower student loan interest rates, etc. And he got healthcare protected that allowed perhaps millions of young people remain on their parents health insurance to age 26 or get access to affordable health insurance. Yes, he could have done more if only they had voted.

If you really didn't know those things, Jesus Christ! No wonder the Democratic Party is in trouble! It needs to do more to inform people.

[loyalsister]

37. There are people who are working more than 1 job and living in poverty

Those rosey stats mean nothing to them. I know in my area we have 3% unemployment and 19% poverty. Then we have politicians talking about how important education is. Hungry kids trying to learn.
People are suffering and the last thing they need to hear is how ungrateful they are because at least they have a job.

[KPN]

38. Do you know many young people?

Do you have any fucking clue how bad it is for many if not most of them?

The problem really is that you just don't get it. Obama cut young people loose after he was elected -- that's how they feel. If he had gone after single payer like he campaigned on and asked them to come out and fight for it, they would have. But no, he went to the insurance and pharmaceutical industries before he went public and had already scaled his plan back to maybe consider a public option. You think they didn't see that???!!! And see it for what it was????

You think those kids don't know their parents had it a whole hell of a lot better???? You think those kids don't know that it's the current crop of politicians who crafted an average American lifestyle that pales in comparison to their parents???? You think they don't see that the playing field is tilted against them and is getting worse not better????? You think they don't believe the fucking country probably needs to break before it gets better???? You think they are fucking idiots????

Come on man! Stop blaming the kids! If you think its them, then its you who is the problem. How are you going to get them involved if the system doesn't work for them????????? The onus is on you -- not them!!!!

[Onlooker]

39. Yes, I know, I work with many of them

I know many of those under 26 have remained on their parents heath insurance and many others have insurance that they can afford. I know that many of them have terrible college debt, but a small number are involved in programs that will lead to some loan forgiveness. I know that the economy has really improved and most of them have jobs, sometimes good jobs.

Obama got things started in his first two years and did a lot of good, but when the millennials didn't turn out and those who did only favored Democrats by a relatively small margins, then Obama was saddled with a conservative Congress. Like Bill Clinton, it was the Congress that tied his hands, and he got very little done.

But, I'm from a good liberal state, Massachusetts, so I wonder if young people in the redder states are suffering more.

[KPN]

50. Obama tied his own hands when it came to single payer or even a public option.

He has done some really good things -- including the ACA (at least compared to the lack of a national health plan). But he's also done some piss poor things -- like side with the GOP initially on chained CPI, pushing the TPP and other trade agreements, opening up oil leasing on federal estate even more than Bush. In sum, he hasn't done enough. The jobs that have been created by and large pale in comparison to the jobs that were available to young people in prior generations -- most of the recovery has been in the service sector.

The millennials didn't turn out because Obama didn't rally them and didn't earn their loyalty. They didn't turn out because State candidates didn't appeal to them.

Until the Party recognizes and admits that, they will continue to blame its problems on voters who don't turn out instead of finding ways to excite them. Incrementalism isn't it ... and neither is just bashing the GOP. Give people something to get excited about, something they can get behind, and they will get behind it.

[DrDan]

62. around 25% in 2012 - only 1 in 4 in a Presidential election

[KPN]

25. That's what the insecure privileged do -- they blame the little people they've trampled on.

It makes them feel justified in having trampled on them (in this case, on their futures). In effect, salving their conscience.

Bill Clinton is a huge public and historical figure, but he's a very little man.

[Firebrand Gary]

30. History will remember Bill Clinton as the giant that he is.

WASHINGTON — Former President Bill Clinton left North Korea on Wednesday morning after a dramatic 20-hour visit, in which he won the freedom of two American journalists, opened a diplomatic channel to North Korea’s reclusive government and dined with the North’s ailing leader, Kim Jong-il.

Mr. Clinton departed from Pyongyang, the capital, around 8:30 a.m. local time, along with the journalists, Laura Ling, 32, and Euna Lee, 36, on a private jet bound for Los Angeles, according to a statement from the former president’s office.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/world/asia/05korea.html?_r=0

*This is but one of the many, many great things this man has done. He wasn't in elected office when he did this, Sander's was! And Sander's got there by receiving money from Hillary's PAC.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/8/1481616/-Bernie-accepted-money-from-Hillary-PAC

[KPN]

35. Well, neither of us really know how history will remember him do we?

You think you do. I think I do. Granted, he is a great historical figure. But we shall see about "giant". I think he will be less renowned domestically than overseas perhaps. Doimestically, I think he will rank with Coolidge and Hoover.

[merrily]

29. Way to damage the future of the Party even more.

[Firebrand Gary]

31. Another person who read the headline and not the article.

[merrily]

34. In your imagination, maybe. Did YOU read it?

“If all the young people who claim to be disillusioned now had voted in 2010, we wouldn’t have lost the Congress, and we’d probably have our incomes back,” he said.

Many millennials were probably too young to vote in 2010, it should be noted.

[Matt_in_STL]

36. So he identifies their issues and pins the blame on them for 2010

And then Hillary fails to adequately address ways to improve their situation. Bill speaks to how they have been disillusioned the past 8 years and have seen no real improvement in their situation and Hillary wants to continue the status quo.

That's a definition of privilege. Expecting the votes of a group without addressing their problems. Good luck with that.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

40. Bill Clinton has become a laughing stock.

[CountAllVotes]

59. yes, a laughing stock

that needs to be muzzled up ASAP.

Good lord Bill!

[CharlotteVale]

41. He reminds me of Spiro Agnew.

[Art_from_Ark]

47. And she reminds me of Richard Nixon

[apcalc]

56. NO WAY

does she remind me of Nixon.
Sheesh

[Art_from_Ark]

64. Were you even around during the Nixon days?

Nixon-- erases 18 1/2 minutes of a critical tape
Hillary-- "wipes" her server clean of 30,000 e-mails

Nixon: under investigation for the Watergate break-in
Hillary: under investigation by the FBI

[apcalc]

65. Of course

[TheKentuckian]

43. No Bill, dumbasses like me who gave you and Hillary the keys to the party to hollow it out

and turn it into the secular wing of the Republican party along with of course corporate snake oil salesman Iike you that we desperately lashed onto are the problem not these kid.

What an ass! Maybe you should have inhaled, all that weird breath holding must have killed more brain cells than any toke could.

[Laughing Mirror]

44. And people are actually willing to vote so that clown comes back to the White House

They'll be sorry for this.

[Baitball Blogger]

48. "problems were kicked down the road"

He didn't expect the young generation to get up to speed so fast.

[HooptieWagon]

51. Bill must be inhaling now.

He seems delusional and bitter. Millenials being added to the enemies list now?...the list must be nearing the size of the Clinton Group's enemies list. Such sad people.

[closeupready]

52. It was Peggy Noonan who once described him as a "used car salesman".

I forget the context exactly, but he always was and as we see here, he continues to excel at faking his way through thick and thin.

[Bread and Circus]

54. Isn't Bill Clinton an alleged rapist?

Because from my understanding there are multiple women accuse him of raping them.

[apcalc]

58. Anyone who

Didn't vote, if they were able, shares the blame.