2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBoston Globe: An Open Letter To Bernie Sanders
Dear Bernie:
I know you and I have had our differences over the past few months, so perhaps Im not the person youre most inclined to listen to about your political future. But please, hear me out.
Youve had a pretty good run so far. A year ago, you were trailing Hillary Clinton by 50 points in the polls. No one gave you much of a chance of winning a single state, let alone 16 of them. And there certainly wasnt a person alive who thought youd out-raise the mighty Clinton campaign-cash harvesting machine. You spent $46 million in April. Are you kidding me?
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But heres the thing and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but maybe a little tough love is in order youre not going to win the Democratic nomination. This isnt one of these yeah, its a long shot, but maybe if I get lucky and everything goes my way things. Youre not going to overcome Hillary Clintons lead in pledged delegates and youre certainly not going to convince super delegates to vote for you over her. I mean, think about it: Youre trying to convince them to vote against the person who is almost certainly going to win in pledged delegates.
And even if you could win that way, would you really want to? In fact, if were really being honest here, the way your campaign has gone the past six weeks isnt the way you want to win or even the way you want to lose. Remember back in May 2015 when you said you didnt want this campaign to be about Jeb Bush, Hillary Clinton, or Bernie Sanders? Remember when you said you werent going to engage in character assassination and personal attacks?
The rest: http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2016/04/22/open-letter-bernie-sanders/AfEtRwYJmTJ5lTNIuw4q8O/story.html?s_campaign=bostonglobe%3Asocialflow%3Atwitter
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)No sale.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Those have the same effectiveness as registering "independent" to punish the party. Specifically: zero.
It's an empty and selfish gesture that comes from pride and vanity. Just ask president Kucinich.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost. John Quincy Adams(D)
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Thanks for sharing.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Is it unreal and sentimental to vote for candidates who have little chance of winning?
McGovern?
Mondale?
Dukakis?
I voted for all of them. I guess I'm not "realistic" and just "sentimental".
Want reality?
I'll probably vote for someone I prefer to the establishment candidates in November.
Reality: My vote will not decide the outcome of the election.
How about yours?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... it's a sentimental and romantic view of a much simpler world as it was 250 years ago. It's archaic and not based on the complex political reality of today.
Not in the primaries. Only in the general.
President McGovern? President Mondale? President Dukakis?
Sadly, "perfect" is not always on the menu. By the time the general election rolls around, you'll have to eat what you're offered, or starve. Personally, I'd rather have the strongest candidate that can defeat the GOP rather than to flatter myself and starving because I'm pouting about not being to vote for the "perfect" (whatever that may mean at any given point in time) candidate who won't defeat the GOP.
Fringe (however it's defined at any given moment in time) write-in candidates NEVER win national elections. Never. If you want to change the "establishment" then you must become part of the "establishment" at all levels and work for change, not shout for change, or pout for change.
You're correct. (Finally, something we can agree on! Whew, I thought it was a lost cause.)
I'm confident that my two votes for Hillary will not "change" the election, but they will go toward her nomination and her defeat of the GOP.
Nice chatting with you.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)Do people do that any more? It is too bad there is not a similar function for electronic media.
beedle
(1,235 posts)Really? Really? The Clinton endorsing Boston Globe can say that with a straight face?
So all the 'rules' that favored Hillary were 'rules are rules, we're just following the rules and doing what they allow us to do." but if Bernie wants to do what's within the rules, suddenly some rules are just too anti-democratic to be used?
Establishment ass-wipes like that can just go to hell ... in 4 years when establishment media is buried, I will be making a yearly pilgrimage to piss on their graves.
Thanks JaneyVee.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Alfresco
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JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Come on, you all should know that.
It has nothing to do with your conscience, its a vote, youre not deciding which puppy to save from a house fire.
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thomservo
(147 posts)Carolina
(6,960 posts)And I plan to vote as you described. $hillary is a loathsome DINO foisted upon us by:
- a bought and paid for consolidated media thanks to Bill's Telecommunications Act
- a totally corrupt, corporate owned, Turd way DNC
Tarc
(10,476 posts)The only questions are when it will happen and what he will want from Clinton so she can enter the convention as the presumptive nominee.
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BooScout
(10,406 posts)tritsofme
(17,377 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)...pledged delegates? Feel free to use http://demrace.com, save and post your results here.
reformist2
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Carolina
(6,960 posts)The more if this bullshit, fall in line tripe I hear, the more certain I am that I will never vote for HRC
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)on Edit:
You're "looking for love in all the wrong places...."
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)how lame can they get