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RATM435

(392 posts)
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:33 PM Apr 2016

Rope-a-dope, Bernie Sanders Is Seeing Gains In States That Have Yet To Vote.

Sen Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is on the verge of catching up to Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton, if national polls of the primary are any gauge.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-upcoming-primaries_us_571a7d4de4b0d0042da93713

A note about "Rope-A-Dope" as a political strategy.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022452465

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Rope-a-dope, Bernie Sanders Is Seeing Gains In States That Have Yet To Vote. (Original Post) RATM435 Apr 2016 OP
Great news! nt chknltl Apr 2016 #1
I hope you know the Rope A Dope strategy was used on George Foreman and not Sonny Liston. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #2
Click on the link einstein. RATM435 Apr 2016 #3
Why read Gwhittey Apr 2016 #5
He used the wrong picture... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #10
You can insult that poster, but the pic you posted is of Sonny Liston on the floor, not Foreman. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #6
You forgot a comma. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #7
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #9
68,000 posts in thirteen years, pal. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #11
Ali took too many blows to the head. bvf Apr 2016 #12
My... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #13
I believe the word is "interlocutor." bvf Apr 2016 #14
What is the point of the photo? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #16
What? He won an award, and you're focusing bvf Apr 2016 #17
Not as clueless as you. You chose that photo to denigrate him. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #18
How the *fuck* does that picture denigrate him? bvf Apr 2016 #19
Do you think you intimidate me with your language? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #20
Believe me, if I had wanted to post bvf Apr 2016 #21
This is how you started our conversation. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #25
"Stalked"? I replied to a number of idiotic posts bvf Apr 2016 #30
Lets unpack this DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #31
Keep saying it until you're blue in the face. bvf Apr 2016 #33
We established ... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #34
Nope. Wrong. Keep at it though. It's amusing. bvf Apr 2016 #36
Were you or were you not banned from the African American forum for stalking me? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #37
Nope. If anything, I was blocked for bvf Apr 2016 #39
You were specifically banned from the African American forum for. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #40
That was a heartwarming story. bvf Apr 2016 #46
You really are... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #48
Please stop following me around. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #167
"calling something you posted stupid. "... sounds like you have a pattern of ad homs & not arguments uponit7771 Apr 2016 #42
Nobody was talking to you bvf Apr 2016 #45
What's the reason ? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #49
"Message to anybody reading this post." bvf Apr 2016 #51
What is there about uponit that makes him unworthy of your response? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #52
You seem to enjoy these bvf Apr 2016 #56
I am content to just to copy your posts without comment and let others come to their own conclusions DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #57
LOL! bvf Apr 2016 #58
I like this photo better than all of the ones you posted DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #59
This one probably bothers you for some reason. bvf Apr 2016 #60
I like this photo better than all of the ones you posted DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #61
I like this one so much I'm posting it again. bvf Apr 2016 #62
I like this photo better than all of the ones you posted DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #63
Given the age of that photograph bvf Apr 2016 #64
If you were half the man in real life Muhammad Ali was in the ring you might actually like yourself. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #65
Much more recent, obviously. bvf Apr 2016 #66
What's your... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #67
2,200 punches to the head before this was taken. bvf Apr 2016 #68
What's your point? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #69
He made his living getting punched in the head, y'know? bvf Apr 2016 #70
I am enjoying our conversation, bvf, a lot !!! DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #71
3,000 punches to the head for this one, too. bvf Apr 2016 #72
I like my "narrative" DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #73
This sub-thread is just a reminder ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #74
If it gets hidden, my friend and spiritual brother, posters can still open it and see the truth. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #75
Like I said ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #76
That's how he and his roll. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #77
Cowardly racist assholes. Beaming their prejudices, riding out GD:P for all msanthrope Apr 2016 #118
And getting rec'ed to high heaven ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #120
Interesting....but a hard look at the Recs reveals the same 20-40 nonposters who msanthrope Apr 2016 #121
jury results zappaman Apr 2016 #78
My brother can stay in the thread... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #80
Juror #3 is a God(dess) Number23 Apr 2016 #86
Pursuant to jury duty, I read this whole subthread and had to have an antacid and a wash... Hekate Apr 2016 #79
You forgot the picture again. bvf Apr 2016 #85
Please see Posts 76, 82, and 83 DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #87
Doubtful. bvf Apr 2016 #88
Non responsive. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #89
Nope. And nope again. bvf Apr 2016 #91
Please see Post 54 DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #92
Are you out of Ali pics already? bvf Apr 2016 #93
We have broadened our discussion DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #94
You can't come up with any more Ali pics? bvf Apr 2016 #95
Good morning, my friend. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #97
Too bad you weren't able to find any more bvf Apr 2016 #98
Did you take the test, my friend? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #99
Nope. My guess is 2,400 punches bvf Apr 2016 #100
Why DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #103
This is a hell of a lot more fun. bvf Apr 2016 #104
Did you take the test, my friend? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #105
I'm going to say 1,150 punches to the head for this one. bvf Apr 2016 #106
No problem, my friend. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #107
That's a disturbing degree of oversharing. bvf Apr 2016 #108
You are the one, friend, who said he could post photos that disturb me. Oh, you mad too !!! DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #109
You're quite capable of finding bvf Apr 2016 #110
I think we are getting close to the end. * DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #111
The essence of your posts from day one can be bvf Apr 2016 #112
IRONY DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #113
There you go again, bvf Apr 2016 #114
You are becoming redundant. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #115
Then you'll really appreciate the message here: bvf Apr 2016 #116
If that's the best you can come up it with a surrender is in order. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #117
You mean the guy who spent an entire adult lifetime bvf Apr 2016 #122
bvf DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #123
This from someone who still has a hard time bvf Apr 2016 #124
You didn't. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #126
It's adorable how you drag out this bvf Apr 2016 #129
I know you come from a rarefied milieu. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #130
How Bluto-like of you bvf Apr 2016 #131
I really am out the door on the way to the gym, my pal. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #132
Nobody asked where you were going. bvf Apr 2016 #133
I didn't ask you if I could tell you. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #134
Funny. Why so touchy all of a sudden? bvf Apr 2016 #135
Not on behalf of myself DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #136
I have no idea what you're talking about. bvf Apr 2016 #137
Maybe you lost your glasses DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #138
You just keep getting more amusing with each post. bvf Apr 2016 #139
A request and a video DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #140
Did you say something? bvf Apr 2016 #141
I did. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #142
Huh? bvf Apr 2016 #143
True or false DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #144
Eh? bvf Apr 2016 #146
I post. Others decide DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #147
What a disappointment. bvf Apr 2016 #148
You are not half as clever as you think you are. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #149
Truly, I don't care what you do. bvf Apr 2016 #150
Temper, temper DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #152
Keep at it. This is such fun. bvf Apr 2016 #153
Your arrant pedantry DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #154
Keep fumbling. bvf Apr 2016 #157
Do you like this post? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #158
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #159
I know you hate my guts and I am okay with it DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #160
Bluto? I am Popeye-the good guy! DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #165
Lots of people seem to be. You should respond to them. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #169
Cool sig, bro. I am flattered by your attention, I think. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #170
Please stop. It's a bad look for you. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #168
What is wrong with you? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #161
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #175
Great pic. Aerows May 2016 #171
Prince looks almost angelic in that photo. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #172
Good morning. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #166
Why do you insist on bringing negative attention to yourself? DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #173
.... rbrnmw Apr 2016 #81
Hmmm. Wasn't "Mr. Interlocutor" a minstrel show character? This guy is so subtle... Hekate Apr 2016 #82
You are correct. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #84
This is a political board ...What is wrong with you? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #164
lol... typical, ad homs abound when your argument is weak uponit7771 Apr 2016 #50
Please address your fellow posters with more respect. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #163
Maybe you were blocked for your signature! DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #162
So first you claim he got hit in the head too many times and then post this pic... what are you uponit7771 Apr 2016 #44
He is trying to say it is okay to denigrate black cultural icons with Parkinson's Disease. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #53
wow, wish some people would just say they don't like black folks instead of hiding uponit7771 Apr 2016 #54
In the context of this discussion the photos of Muhammad Ali that were used were despicable. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #55
Ad homs are an indicator of a weak position uponit7771 Apr 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #174
As a Bernie Sanders supporter, let me support YOU, DemocratSinceBirth! raging moderate Apr 2016 #155
Thank you so much. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #156
Nice transparency page you have there...how many more states do you plan to fuck? snooper2 Apr 2016 #145
Yes outspending her 3-1 and getting his ass handed to him MattP Apr 2016 #4
Bullshit. RATM435 Apr 2016 #8
Sanders and Hillary campaigns have both collected... CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #23
Uh, the article you linked to shows that Sanders has out spent her... musicblind Apr 2016 #24
So Sanders didn't spend twice as much as HRC in New York?! REALLY?!!? uponit7771 Apr 2016 #43
ROFL alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #15
The next war jknudsen Apr 2016 #26
Not everybody believes the Sandersite lies about Hillary Clinton alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #35
Can I ask how Hillary Clinton is going to win in the GE? Unicorn Apr 2016 #90
Blah blah blah alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #96
he's going to win RI. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #83
BS! CajunBlazer Apr 2016 #22
I could not resist linking to video of that fight! Two great champions and great men. dinkytron Apr 2016 #27
keep hope alive. MFM008 Apr 2016 #28
They are tied. Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #29
He will win California. No doubt. LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #127
"...if national polls of the primary are any gauge" Tarc Apr 2016 #32
More "losing is winning" nonsense. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #38
if he wins Kentucky big reddread Apr 2016 #47
Losing is not an effective strategy. RandySF Apr 2016 #101
Lol....after today...and Hillary padding both delegate and beachbum bob Apr 2016 #102
Weaver and Devine are already on that racket alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #119
My Ignore function is working like a charm BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #125
Ignore has been a godsend this election season. LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #128
This is what could do it. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #151
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
6. You can insult that poster, but the pic you posted is of Sonny Liston on the floor, not Foreman. nt
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:46 PM
Apr 2016

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
7. You forgot a comma.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:46 PM
Apr 2016
Click on the link einstein.


You forgot a comma, einstein.

It take a real man of genius to screw up a sentence with four words, einstein.

I still don't know what Sonny Liston has to do with the Rope A Dope strategy, einstein.

Since you seem to be a pugilism fan, einstein, your guy is going to get knocked out on Tuesday.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #7)

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
13. My...
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 10:16 PM
Apr 2016
Ali took too many blows to the head.

What's your excuse?



My stalker is back. Too bad they don't issue online restraining orders.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
16. What is the point of the photo?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:38 PM
Apr 2016



What is the point of the photo?

He has Parkinson's Disease and it affects his countenance, his gait, and his expression. He's in a wheel chair now.

Do you think people with profound physical challenges are funny?


Oh, here is with Malcolm X when he was young, virile, and vibrant;






 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
17. What? He won an award, and you're focusing
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:41 PM
Apr 2016

on his looks?

How clueless can you be?

And btw, if you find such an unremarkable photo offensive, why are you reposting it? You don't much think before you post, do you?

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
18. Not as clueless as you. You chose that photo to denigrate him.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:49 PM
Apr 2016
What? He won an award, and you're focusing

on his looks?

How clueless can you be?

And btw, if you find such an unremarkable photo offensive, why are you reposting it? You don't much think before you post, do you?




Other posters can judge your intentions.

I re-posted it, lest you delete it!

I choose to remember him when he was young, virile, and vibrant.

When you are not denigrating people with Parkinson's Disease are you throwing rocks at blind people?


I prefer to remember him when he was young virile and vibrant. Here he is with Bill Russell, Jim Brown. Rafer Johnson. and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar:


 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
19. How the *fuck* does that picture denigrate him?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:55 PM
Apr 2016

There you go with that whole not-thinking thing again.

You're an absolute hoot.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
20. Do you think you intimidate me with your language?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:03 AM
Apr 2016
How the *fuck* does that picture denigrate him?

There you go with that whole not-thinking thing again.

You're an absolute hoot

-bvf

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1821188




Do you think you intimidate me with your language? Am I supposed to be scared? I assuredly am not. I would literally wager my life on that proposition.


Out of all the photos of Muhammad Ali you chose that one to denigrate him.


I choose to remember him when he was young, virile, and vibrant.

Here is he with President Nkrumah:


 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
21. Believe me, if I had wanted to post
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:29 AM
Apr 2016

an unflattering photo, I have no doubt there would have been plenty to choose from.

How you could find offense in the photo chosen only speaks to your seeming need to feel put upon at every turn. By all means, keep going with that angle. It's pathetic and funny all at once.

Btw, if you want to see a photo denigrating the poor guy, just say the word. I think you would like nothing more.

Boo!

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
25. This is how you started our conversation.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:54 AM
Apr 2016
Believe me, if I had wanted to post
an unflattering photo, I have no doubt there would have been plenty to choose from.

How you could find offense in the photo chosen only speaks to your seeming need to feel put upon at every turn. By all means, keep going with that angle. It's pathetic and funny all at once.

Btw, if you want to see a photo denigrating the poor guy, just say the word. I think you would like nothing more.



Boo!

-bvf



This is how you started our conversation, stalking me as usual:

Ali took too many blows to the head.

What's your excuse?

-bvf

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1820460



and it went down from there...



Did you or did you not stalk me to the African American forum, insult me in a post, and were you or were you not banned from that forum for doing so?


Sweet Jesus, that is so embarrassing and creepy. I am going to sleep with one eye open.
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
30. "Stalked"? I replied to a number of idiotic posts
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:05 AM
Apr 2016

that begged for responses. I've noted I'm not the only one here you've leveled this childish complaint against.

You seem to think that anyone who calls out the ridiculousness of your posts must somehow have it in for you. At least, that seems to be the gist of your act.

And, as I recall, you were practically begging me to PM you in the thread you referenced. The thought of that is just as sad now as it was at the time.

Nobody's stalking you. Grow up, for chrissakes.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
31. Lets unpack this
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:54 AM
Apr 2016
"Stalked"? I replied to a number of idiotic posts that begged for responses. I've noted I'm not the only one here you've leveled this childish complaint against.


-bvf



Do I have nemeses on this board? Do they sell overpriced coffee at Starbucks? They all come from the same camp. That is indisputable.


And, as I recall, you were practically begging me to PM you in the thread you referenced. The thought of that is just as sad now as it was at the time.

-bvf




I have no recollection of that private conversation. In any case here is where your stalking of me led to you being banned from the African American forum. We were having a cordial internet conversation, which you initiated, and you quickly turned it into a personal attack on me. It starts with Post 53:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118744485#post53



The money post is Post 76:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118744485#post76

It was shortly after that I was notified you were blocked from the group.



Grow up, for chrissakes.

-bvf





Physician, heal thyself.









 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
33. Keep saying it until you're blue in the face.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:08 AM
Apr 2016

Nothing can change the fact that you post a lot of unintelligent nonsense, and cry like a child about being picked on when anyone points it out.

You're quite reliable in that regard.

Here's something you might enjoy:

https://m.



DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
34. We established ...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:11 AM
Apr 2016

We established that you stalked me and were banned from the African American forum for doing so. I can be an asshole on this board. I have written things I am not proud of. Self reflection, even critical self reflection is beneficiary. But I have never been banned from a forum here or anywhere on the internet for stalking.

Obsession.


Sweet Jesus.


 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
36. Nope. Wrong. Keep at it though. It's amusing.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:06 AM
Apr 2016

Did you like the video?

What was your favorite part?

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
37. Were you or were you not banned from the African American forum for stalking me?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:11 AM
Apr 2016

This post from one of the hosts:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118744485#post76


is what is referred to in cards as a "call"

Shortly thereafter I was notified you were banned from the group for stalking me.


Good god, getting kicked out of an internet forum for stalking. How embarrassing.


Obsession


Sweet Jesus.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
39. Nope. If anything, I was blocked for
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:27 AM
Apr 2016

calling something you posted stupid.

Trouble is, there's so much that applies that I'm a bit hard-pressed to remember particulars.

IIRC, it might have had something to do with your abject pleas that I PM you, which of course wasn't going to happen.

Keep trying. I'll see if I can find any more cute graphics for you. You wait right here, now.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
40. You were specifically banned from the African American forum for.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apr 2016

You were specifically banned from the African American forum for stalking me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118744485#post76

That was the prelude to the notification I received that you were banned for stalking me.

When I was a young man I knew a young woman who was stalking me. I lived In Daytona Beach Shores at the time and spent a lot of time on Daytona Beach which is just across the Halifax River. I used to work out three hours a day because I wanted to be a professional bodybuilder. One of my work out partners was Boyer Coe so I looked pretty good. I got to spend a lot of time on the beach because I was a bouncer at night at Mac's Famous Bar and The other Place. Any way, one day I look out my window and there was this young woman, a local like me, that I knew from the beach. She was there with her two girlfriends peering into my patio door window.

I was flattered by her stalking. Your stalking is creeping me out. God help me if I ever see you peering into my patio window. Luckily I live on the third floor and far from you.


Obsession

Sweet Lord.


 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
46. That was a heartwarming story.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:50 AM
Apr 2016

I got as far as "young man" before collapsing with laughter, tried again, and made it all the way to "work out." Not to worry: bookmarked (and snapped).

Nobody ever stalked you. Regarded you with a combination of pity and contempt, maybe. The sensation must confuse you.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
48. You really are...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:22 PM
Apr 2016
I got as far as "young man" before collapsing with laughter, tried again, and made it all the way to "work out."Not to worry: bookmarked (and snapped).



You really are obsessed with me.

Sweet Jesus.


uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
42. "calling something you posted stupid. "... sounds like you have a pattern of ad homs & not arguments
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:04 AM
Apr 2016

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
49. What's the reason ?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:27 PM
Apr 2016
Nobody was talking to youand with good reason.

Let's all guess what it is


What's the reason? Just because a person posts on a progressive message board doesn't mean he or she isn't a racist or above making fun of people with end stage Parkinson's Disease, any more than posting on a message board for vegans doesn't mean the person posting isn't in reality someone who eats meat.



P.S. Message to anybody reading this post. It is a general observation and not about anybody in particular.
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
51. "Message to anybody reading this post."
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:33 PM
Apr 2016

Well, wasn't that a waste of keystrokes?



Use your head for once.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
52. What is there about uponit that makes him unworthy of your response?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016
Nobody was talking to you (uponiit) and with good reason.

Let's all guess what it is



-bvf

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1823237






Help me out , please.

Is it an immutable characteristic by chance?

Thank you in advance.


Are there other people that share his immutable characteristic that you feel are unworthy of your response?
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
56. You seem to enjoy these
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:41 PM
Apr 2016

so here's another.

My, but it's amusing watching you play the cultural maven, deconstructing an ad for bug control products.



Muhammad Ali: Hero or Tool?

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
57. I am content to just to copy your posts without comment and let others come to their own conclusions
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:14 AM
Apr 2016
You seem to enjoy these

so here's another.

My, but it's amusing watching you play the cultural maven, deconstructing an ad for bug control products.




-bvf

Muhammad Ali: Hero or Tool?




http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1827218





Nobody was talking to you (uponiit) and with good reason.

Let's all guess what it is



-bvf

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1823237




















You denigrate one of the most prominent African American figures of the twentieth century. You denigrate African American members of this board. I am content to just copy your posts without comment and let others come to their own conclusions.




 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
58. LOL!
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:29 AM
Apr 2016
You denigrate one of the most prominent African American figures of the twentieth century. You denigrate African American members of this board. I am content to just copy your posts without comment and let others come to their own conclusions.


You do understand that you've just commented, right?

I'm not denigrating anyone. You see things that aren't there, thanks to the same brainpower that allows you to say "without comment" smack in the middle of a comment.

Every post of yours is more ridiculous than the last. I don't know how you do it, but keep at it. It's marvelous.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
59. I like this photo better than all of the ones you posted
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:33 AM
Apr 2016

I find this photo more uplifting than all of the ones you posted:




I am certain you don't but I will leave it to others to divine why.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
60. This one probably bothers you for some reason.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 08:57 AM
Apr 2016


Don't really know what you find objectionable about these, but as I noted (and as anyone here familiar with your posts knows), you strain hilariously to take offense sometimes. Keep those laughs coming.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
61. I like this photo better than all of the ones you posted
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:00 AM
Apr 2016






I am not remotely surprised you don't. I will let others divine as to why.





 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
62. I like this one so much I'm posting it again.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:04 AM
Apr 2016

You've been forgetting to lately.



Anything for a buck.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
63. I like this photo better than all of the ones you posted
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:07 AM
Apr 2016





I am not remotely surprised you don't. I will let others divine your intentions.
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
64. Given the age of that photograph
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:30 AM
Apr 2016

I estimate that Ali had already been punched in the head about 700 times before it was taken.

Of course, that's how he made his living, so that's probably not as impressive as it sounds.

Ravi Shankar, I'm guessing, two, maybe three times, tops.

Good game, this.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
65. If you were half the man in real life Muhammad Ali was in the ring you might actually like yourself.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:37 AM
Apr 2016

Now let us get back to the topic at hand. I like this photo of Muhammad Ali:






I am not remotely surprised you don't. I will let others divine your intentions.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
66. Much more recent, obviously.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:47 AM
Apr 2016

My guess on this one is, oh, 3,000.

Your turn.

P.S.

You forgot to tell me how close I was on the previous photo. How the hell are we going to keep score?

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
67. What's your...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:51 AM
Apr 2016
I estimate that Ali had already been punched in the head about 700 times before it was taken.



What's your excuse? As I said, if you were half man in real life Muhammad Ali was in the ring you might actually like yourself.




 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
68. 2,200 punches to the head before this was taken.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:57 AM
Apr 2016

Zimmerman probably gave him a better run for his money than Shankar, what with the motorcycle crack-up and all.

But yeah, I'm going with 2,200. Let me know.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
69. What's your point?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:12 AM
Apr 2016

What's your point?

Many people get Parkinson's Disease. Getting repetitive blows to the head certainly contributes to it. However many people who never stepped into a boxing ring suffer from it. The fact you would take relish in lambasting someone who suffers from it reveals more about you than it can ever reveal about them.

The man is one of the leading African American figures of the twentieth century, a cultural icon, and an inspiration to many. You are verbally defecating all over him in this thread. I am humbled to have this opportunity to defend him.

As I have said, ad infinitum and ad nauseam, if you were half the man in real life he was in the ring you might actually like yourself.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
70. He made his living getting punched in the head, y'know?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:27 AM
Apr 2016

Go ahead. Post more photos. I thought you were enjoying our little diversion, even though you weren't doing very well.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
71. I am enjoying our conversation, bvf, a lot !!!
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016
"... I thought you were enjoying our little diversion..."

-bvf



I am actually enjoying our conversation, a lot !!! I have had it many times before but invariably they were with right wingers who hated him for opposing the Vietnam War. In fact I used to post a lot at boxrec. There are a handful of anti-Ali trolls there and most of their animus stems from Ali's opposition to the Vietnam War and his refusal to be inducted. Well, that and his refusal to kowtow to white cultural norms .

Do you know what their ultimate "go to card" is/was?

Drum roll

...

...

...

Look at him now.

You are in good company, I think.


I would be remiss if I didn't conclude by saying if you were half the man in real life Muhammad Ali was in the ring you might actually like yourself.

P.S. I forgot. You asked for a photo. Given the timing this is appropriate:




 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
72. 3,000 punches to the head for this one, too.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:00 PM
Apr 2016

Am I close?

In re: your little narrative, nobody's the least bit interested.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
73. I like my "narrative"
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:20 PM
Apr 2016
"...In re: your little narrative, nobody's the least bit interested..."




I like my little narrative so much that it bears repeating , in bold:




I am actually enjoying our conversation, a lot !!! I have had it many times before but invariably they were with right wingers who hated him for opposing the Vietnam War. In fact I used to post a lot at boxrec. There are a handful of anti-Ali trolls there and most of their animus stems from Ali's opposition to the Vietnam War and his refusal to be inducted. Well, that and his refusal to kowtow to white cultural norms .

Do you know what their ultimate "go to card" is/was?

Drum roll

...

...

...

Look at him now.

You are in good company, I think.





We just have to let others decide if they like my "little narrative" or not.


P.S. I would be remiss if I didn't conclude by saying if you were half the man in real life Muhammad Ali was in the ring you might actually like yourself.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
74. This sub-thread is just a reminder ...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:30 PM
Apr 2016

there are DU:"progressives" who are not progressive in the least ... the are just cowardly assholes.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
75. If it gets hidden, my friend and spiritual brother, posters can still open it and see the truth.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:34 PM
Apr 2016









Out of all the people that would raise the ire of so called progressives and make them go to the hill to destroy one would think Muhammad Ali would be the last person in the world to be that person.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
76. Like I said ...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:49 PM
Apr 2016

I see no "progressive" there ... just a keyboard tough guy whose real life persona would no doubt explain his/her internet persona.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
120. And getting rec'ed to high heaven ...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:13 AM
Apr 2016

by DU's most highly regarded "progressives". Go figure!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
121. Interesting....but a hard look at the Recs reveals the same 20-40 nonposters who
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:15 AM
Apr 2016

routinely rec those threads. Fooling no one.

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
78. jury results
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

On Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:46 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

This sub-thread is just a reminder ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1830096

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

calling a poster an asshole is a personal attack.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:53 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I couldn't see just who he supposedly called an asshole here. Alerter should be more specific with their complaint.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't see this calling out a particular DUer.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I read the subthread in question, and am in complete agreement with 1SBM.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: OP is not calling out any DUer.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: People need to stop being so thin-skinned around here.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
80. My brother can stay in the thread...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016

I am beyond disappointed that on a progressive board a poster can verbally disembowel Muhammad Ali, one of the most influential and celebrated African American figures of the twentieth century, a man who inspired millions to oppose the unjust war in Vietnam by refusing to fight in it, and a cultural icon there isn't more blow black.

As I said I have seen the attacks on him that were levied here but they sure weren't levied by progressives.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
79. Pursuant to jury duty, I read this whole subthread and had to have an antacid and a wash...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016

... before stating that I found myself in complete agreement with you. I appreciate the fact that other jurists voted 2-5 to leave it as well.

Have a nice day, 1SBM.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
85. You forgot the picture again.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 11:18 PM
Apr 2016

Here's a recap of how this goes:

You post a random photograph of Muhammad Ali, and I try to guess how many times he had been punched in the head in his career before the picture was taken.

Hope this gets you back on track. Here's another video of Ali hawking bug killer that you might like:

https://m.



DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
87. Please see Posts 76, 82, and 83
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:31 AM
Apr 2016
3,000 punches to the head for this one, too.

Am I close?

In re: your little narrative, nobody's the least bit interested.[/b




-bvf


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511820293#post72



Please see Posts 76, 82, and 83

I will have some more posts for you to read tomorrow.

Thank you in advance,

BTW, do you like this video? Do you find it germane to our discussion?

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
88. Doubtful.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:45 AM
Apr 2016

If history is any indication, when you make noise like that, it typically means you've decided to skedaddle.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
89. Non responsive.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:49 AM
Apr 2016

Did you read Posts 76, 82, and 83?



Did you watch this video?





Do you find it germane to this sub thread?


Thank you in advance.
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
91. Nope. And nope again.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:56 AM
Apr 2016

Where's the random photo of Ali?

Your heart doesn't seem to be in this any more.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
92. Please see Post 54
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:06 AM
Apr 2016

Maybe this video will enlighten you, my friend:






Sleep tight, my, friend.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
93. Are you out of Ali pics already?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:15 AM
Apr 2016

That must mean something.

I'm sure you'll be able to scare some up soon.

In the mean time, please feel free to post all the videos you like. Kind of pointless, but that's never stopped you before.

Come on! Ali pics!

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
94. We have broadened our discussion
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:21 AM
Apr 2016

Last post for you tonight, my friend.

Being the empathetic individual I am I have decided to help you with a self-examination of your conscious feelings.

Take this test and report the results to me tomorrow:


http://www.understandingprejudice.org/iat/racframe.htm



Thank you in advance.


 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
95. You can't come up with any more Ali pics?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:31 AM
Apr 2016

Why, there must be thousands of them out there!

Everybody's counting on you--don't let them down!

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
97. Good morning, my friend.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:11 AM
Apr 2016
If history is any indication, when you make noise like that, it typically means you've decided to skedaddle.


-bvf




I don't believe I have done any "skedaddling" in my life. If our conversations have come to an abrupt end it is either because, as we have established, you were banned from the group we were having our conversation for stalking or you went into an apoplectic range and had your post hidden.



Being the empathetic individual I am I have decided to help you with a self-examination of your conscious feelings.

Take this test and report the results to me tomorrow:


http://www.understandingprejudice.org/iat/racframe.htm


-DemocratSinceBirth



Did you take the test, my friend? You had several hours to complete it. That is surely enough time for a smart lad like yourself. Would you please share the results with the rest of us?

Thank you in advance.


P.S. You can't come up with any more Ali pics?
Why, there must be thousands of them out there!
Everybody's counting on you--don't let them down!

-bvf


My pleasure:






 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
98. Too bad you weren't able to find any more
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:22 AM
Apr 2016

pictures of Muhammad Ali. I was able to find a shitload, and might post them here if you ask nicely.

Looking at a picture of him, and trying to guess how many punches to the head he sustained prior to the picture, would probably make a good party game. I know you enjoyed it, which is why I'm mystified at your dropping the ball like this.

Watch this space and don't forget: ask nicely.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
99. Did you take the test, my friend?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:31 AM
Apr 2016
Being the empathetic individual I am I have decided to help you with a self-examination of your conscious feelings.

Take this test and report the results to me tomorrow:


http://www.understandingprejudice.org/iat/racframe.htm


-DemocratSinceBirth


We are all eagerly anticipating the results.

The following three posts:

Post 74
Post 76
Post 54

Which one comes closest to capturing your essence?

Thank you in advance.

Oh, here is another photo for you.






 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
100. Nope. My guess is 2,400 punches
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:17 AM
Apr 2016

to the head by the time that one was taken.

What do you think--am I close? I'm sure you're enough of a fan to have a decent idea, right?

Would you like me to post some of the pictures I found? Just say the word.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
103. Why
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:35 AM
Apr 2016
Nope. My guess is 2,400 punches

to the head by the time that one was taken.

What do you think--am I close? I'm sure you're enough of a fan to have a decent idea, right?

Would you like me to post some of the pictures I found? Just say the word.

-bvf



Why didn't you take the test, my friend?


http://www.understandingprejudice.org/iat/racframe.htm


Are you afraid what you might find?


Here is an assessment of you from Hekate:


Pursuant to jury duty, I read this whole subthread and had to have an antacid and a wash...

... before stating that I found myself in complete agreement with you. I appreciate the fact that other jurists voted 2-5 to leave it as well.

Have a nice day, 1SBM.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1830270


-Hekate




Do you demur from that assessment, my friend, and if you do, why?


Thank you in advance.


Oh, do you want a photo with my next reply?
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
104. This is a hell of a lot more fun.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:36 PM
Apr 2016

Ready for some pictures? They're pretty tasty. Mind you, not a.b.p.grotesque tasty, but you might find them interesting. As I stated earlier--just say "when."

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
105. Did you take the test, my friend?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 12:45 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.understandingprejudice.org/index.php

Consider it a self inventory.

This is a hell of a lot more fun.
Ready for some pictures? They're pretty tasty. Mind you, not a.b.p.grotesque tasty, but you might find them interesting. As I stated earlier--just say "when.

-bvf




Out of these posts

#82


#74


Which is closer to capturing your essence?

As I have said, ad infinitum and ad nauseam, if you were half the man in real life Muhammad Ali was in the ring you might actually like yourself.

I am going to see Elvis and Nixon later this morning so this photo has resonance. I would guess your cinematic tastes gravitate to Birth Of A Nation .




Oh, these photos you are withholding.

Ready for some pictures?

-bvf


Please post them, please

When my mom died the E R nurse let me in the E R Operating Room to see her. She had a tube they stuck down her throat to revive her so there isn't much that I haven't seen.



P.S. What does "b.p." grotesque mean? I hope I don't regret asking.
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
106. I'm going to say 1,150 punches to the head for this one.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:16 PM
Apr 2016

WRT a.b.p.*, your naïf act was old ages ago.

Coming up soon: Muhammad Ali before his conversion.

Brace yourself--I can't be held responsible for any emotional trauma the upcoming image(s) may induce.

Certainly, the jury will keep in mind that they will have been posted at the stated request of DemocratSinceBirth.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
107. No problem, my friend.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:42 PM
Apr 2016
Brace yourself--I can't be held responsible for any emotional trauma the upcoming image(s) may induce.

-bvf


Just post the photos.


I have seen lots of unsettling things. My mom died in my arms. My mom was ninety years old and in failing health. She was having more and more transient ischemic attacks (mini strokes) toward the end of her life. One morning she woke up and couldn't talk... That was scary. I called 911 but by the time they arrived she was able to talk again. That's the nature of mini strokes. Any way they said it was best if they took her to the hospital for tests. My mom was one tough woman... After a while she said " I want to go home" so I complied. When I was helping her into my car she went limp. Wow! The nurse checked her pulse and rolled her back in the wheel chair...They do a code blue, just like you see in the movies, and several nurses all come to the E R Operating room. They hook the defibilator to her chest and I can see her levitate off the table from the shock.


So go ahead and show me your scary images, pal. I doubt they will move me.

You know, bvf, somebody like you could only exist on the internet.
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
108. That's a disturbing degree of oversharing.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:33 AM
Apr 2016

Do you find dredging up stories of your loved ones' personal tragedies in the company of complete strangers beneficial in some way?

Now, that's twisted--especially in conjunction with your expressed desire to look at hospital photos of a punch-drunk old man.

That's fucked up, and I refuse to feed your fetish.


But enjoy this:

Look! Ali being felt up by a nun. (I'm guessing he's had 3,000 punches to the head by this point.)

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
109. You are the one, friend, who said he could post photos that disturb me. Oh, you mad too !!!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:33 AM
Apr 2016

You are the one, friend, who said he could post photos that disturb me


Brace yourself--I can't be held responsible for any emotional trauma the upcoming image(s) may induce.


-bvf

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1839340



I am still waiting, friend. Nothing shakes me.

And in that vein your faux tough guy rhetoric:



doesn't move me either.


Oh, this is my favorite post of the whole sub thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1830227

Love,
DSB



P.S. I regret our conversation has taken a turn for the worst. You were so much more likable and entertaining when you were desperately searching for picayune grammatical and spelling errors to insult me.



 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
110. You're quite capable of finding
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:55 AM
Apr 2016

as much internet grotesquery as it takes to satisfy your odd little desires all on your own. Seems you even contribute to it when the opportunity presents itself.

Don't even think of suggesting I PM you with pointers or anything like that. You've gone that route before, and it won't work this time, either.

Here's an MRI image just for you.



- B.Kliban

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
111. I think we are getting close to the end. *
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:02 AM
Apr 2016

I think we are getting close to the end. Your material is becoming increasingly inane. I am almost beginning to feel sorry for you but not so sorry for you that I won't leave you with the post in this thread which captures your essence:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1830227


Love,
DSB





P.S. * Or maybe not. I am sure you have a treasure trove of disturbing images on your computer to regale the rest of us with:

Brace yourself--I can't be held responsible for any emotional trauma the upcoming image(s) may induce.


-bvf


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1839340
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
112. The essence of your posts from day one can be
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:28 AM
Apr 2016

summed up with that very word: "inane."

From your pathetic requests that I post disturbing pictures for your entertainment, to your need to tell absolute strangers tales of personal trauma, to your strange worship of a guy who made his living getting punched in the head, to your delusional expectation that anyone would waste time on your links, "inane" is le mot juste.



DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
113. IRONY
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:42 AM
Apr 2016
From your pathetic requests that I post disturbing pictures for your entertainment

-bvf



Any reader of our conversation can see you don't need my encouragement to post images you find disturbing.

I would be remiss if I didn't leave you with one of my favorite posts from this thread:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1830227


Love,

DemocratSinceBirth


P.S. Your repartee is lacking. It is simple and plain.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
114. There you go again,
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:57 AM
Apr 2016

using words you don't understand. That's practically an identifying trait of yours.

?w=460

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
117. If that's the best you can come up it with a surrender is in order.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:15 AM
Apr 2016

It was essentially over the minute you used a cultural icon in failing health to attack me.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
122. You mean the guy who spent an entire adult lifetime
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

getting punched in the head, only to develop head problems?

And pointing that out was somehow an attack? On you??

My! But you have an odd way of looking at things, not to mention a perverse idea of what you think is of interest to anyone else.

Here is a picture for you. It's of Muhammad Ali eating some food. How many times do you figure he was punched in the head before it was taken? Say, within 50 punches, either way?



DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
123. bvf
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:47 AM
Apr 2016

I would be remiss if I didn't state, again, if you were half the man in real life Muhammad Ali was in the ring you might actually like yourself. I believe that was what my friend was getting at:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1830227



I look forward to your next response which will undoubtedly be more puerile and pathetic than the last one. It's become a pattern. Please don't disappoint me.



Love ya,

DemocratSinceBirth



 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
124. This from someone who still has a hard time
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:51 AM
Apr 2016

with ergo.



Stick to your native language, whatever it is.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
126. You didn't.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016
I look forward to your next response which will undoubtedly be more puerile and pathetic than the last one. It's become a pattern. Please don't disappoint me.

-DemocratSinceBirth





This from someone who still has a hard time
with ergo.

Stick to your native language, whatever it is.

-bvf



You didn't.




Here is something to read while you fashion your next unfailingly puerile and pathetic response:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1830227


With love,

DemocratSinceBirth
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
129. It's adorable how you drag out this
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:04 PM
Apr 2016

limited supply of tools, over and over.

Speaking of "over and over," how many times do you reckon Muhammad Ali got punched in the head before the picture below was taken? Hint: "Over and over" isn't a valid answer. We're looking for a number here.

("Ergo," as you might say, stupidly.)

?quality=75&strip=color&w=766

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
130. I know you come from a rarefied milieu.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:33 PM
Apr 2016
It's adorable how you drag out this
limited supply of tools, over and over.

-bvf



I know you come from a rarefied milieu. But in the milieu from where I come from when you attack someone you don't get to calibrate their response.

This isn't over until I say it is over. Until then, enjoy.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1830227

Love ya,

DemocratSinceBirth


P.S. I am going to the gym. Who knows what aberrant nonsense you will write in my absence? I will just have to wait and see...



Brace yourself--I can't be held responsible for any emotional trauma the upcoming image(s) may induce.

-bvf

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1839340



You can pleasure yourself to all the aberrant images you are harboring until I return though.





 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
131. How Bluto-like of you
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016

and what with your cute little thesaurus and all.



How many punches to the head in this one?

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
132. I really am out the door on the way to the gym, my pal.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:49 PM
Apr 2016
How Bluto-like of you

and what with your cute little thesaurus and all.

-bvf



Brace yourself--I can't be held responsible for any emotional trauma the upcoming image(s) may induce.

-bvf

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1839340




I really am out the door on the way to the gym, my pal. However I am sure all the aberrant images you claim to collect will keep you busy until I return. Don't forget to wash your hands though. Hygiene!

Love ya,

DemocratSinceBirth



P.S. I don't know how I missed this post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1848104
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
133. Nobody asked where you were going.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:03 PM
Apr 2016

But, since you mention it, here's something for your locker:

?c=2

How many punches to the head here?

I won't even speculate as to what might be going through your mind as you ponder this one.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
134. I didn't ask you if I could tell you.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:33 PM
Apr 2016
Nobody asked where you were going.



I didn't ask if I could tell you, did I, pal?

It was wonderful. I feel twenty years younger when I'm done.


Now that we got that housekeeping out of the way I have decided to be magnanimous. If you apologize to the readers of this thread for using the failing health of a cultural icon and one of the most celebrated African American figures of the twentieth century in a failed attempt to make me upset I will cease and desist in my exposé of your character or should I say lack of one.

The ball is in your court.


Love ya,

DemocratSinceBirth


 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
135. Funny. Why so touchy all of a sudden?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:40 AM
Apr 2016

Here's something to cheer you up.

The guy on the left made his living getting punched in the head, and became a hero to millions for, uh, getting punched in the head.



Quick quiz: How many times did he get punched in the head before this picture was taken?

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
136. Not on behalf of myself
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:07 AM
Apr 2016

Not on behalf of myself but on behalf of my fellow members of our community I ask you peer into your conscience, heed your better angels, and apologize for your character assasination of one of the leading African American figures of the twentieth century and a beloved figure to many around the world.

Thank you in advance.


Love,

DemocratSinceBirth

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
137. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:21 AM
Apr 2016

Clearly, neither do you.



How many punches to the head before this one, do you suppose?

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
138. Maybe you lost your glasses
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:27 AM
Apr 2016
I have no idea what you're talking about.


Maybe you lost your glasses. Being the empathetic individual I am I will write it again but in bold:




Not on behalf of myself but on behalf of my fellow members of our community I ask you peer into your conscience, heed your better angels, and apologize for your character assassination of one of the leading African American figures of the twentieth century and a beloved figure to many around the world.

Thank you in advance.


Love,

DemocratSinceBirth


 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
139. You just keep getting more amusing with each post.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:43 AM
Apr 2016

Look at this.

How many punches before this one was taken?

Go ahead. Take a guess. You must be so used to being off-base by now that it really won't matter how wrong you are.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
140. A request and a video
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:48 AM
Apr 2016

First the request:


Not on behalf of myself but on behalf of my fellow members of our community I ask you peer into your conscience, heed your better angels, and apologize for your character assassination of one of the leading African American figures of the twentieth century and a beloved figure to many around the world.

Thank you in advance.


Now the video:





Neil's problem and it was/is a huge one is that he thinks racism is endemic to the south.





DSB, just peeling the onion.


Love,

DemocratSinceBirth
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
141. Did you say something?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:41 AM
Apr 2016

Oh, look! Someone cleverly doctored a photograph to make it appear as if Ali were musically inclined. Ha ha! That's a good one! Everyone knows he got punched in the head for a living!

But seriously though, how many punches to the head do you think he took before the original version of this picture was taken?

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
142. I did.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:48 AM
Apr 2016
Did you say something?

-bvf



I did. You obviously responded, pal. Since you missed it I will be kind enough to re-post it, in its entirety:




Not on behalf of myself but on behalf of my fellow members of our community I ask you peer into your conscience, heed your better angels, and apologize for your character assassination of one of the leading African American figures of the twentieth century and a beloved figure to many around the world.

Thank you in advance.


Now the video:





Neil's problem and it was/is a huge one is that he thinks racism is endemic to the south.





DSB, just peeling the onion.


Love,

DemocratSinceBirth
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
143. Huh?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:06 AM
Apr 2016

You know, that last one was such a rib-tickler that I think it deserves another go.

I'll explain it to you again. It's funny because Ali wouldn't actually be playing a guitar in the middle of a bout! And if he were, he would probably sound like shit.
Hope this helps you see the humor here.

Oh, I almost forgot: You have yet to guess how many punches to the head Ali took before the various photos in this thread were taken. I have a good idea why that is, but feel free to jump in any time, even if you think you're nowhere close. It's more important just to make the effort.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
144. True or false
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:12 AM
Apr 2016

Not every Klansman or kindred spirit cloaks himself in a sheet and a hood. Some even where business suits:





and some even hold themselves out as progressive and participate in online progressive communities.




True or false.


Love ya,

DemocratSinceBirth

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
146. Eh?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 01:36 PM
Apr 2016

Here is Muhammad Ali eating food again.

How many times was he punched in the head before this picture was taken?

Since you seem afraid of guessing, I'm going to do the small service of presenting this to you as a multiple choice question. I hope this helps you overcome your shyness.

So again:

How many times was he punched in the head before this picture was taken?

a.) 350
b.) 700
c.) 1,200
d.) Manila




If you picked d., you need to focus.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
147. I post. Others decide
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016
Ali took too many blows to the head.

-bvf





“You have to remember that when Ali beat Sonny Liston [in 1964] (below), it was a crime in many states for black people and white people to marry,” he explains. “Segregation was the law of the land, and when he burst upon the scene, an awful lot of black people thought it was better to be white. Reggie Jackson – a very famous baseball player – said that to me. That before Muhammad Ali, there were times when he was ashamed of being black, but that obviously he is proud of being black now. Muhammad Ali was part of that growth process for him.

http://talksport.com/boxing/muhammad-misunderstood-unravelling-ali-myth-141023120370



As I said, ad infinitum and ad nauseam, if you were half the man in real life Muhammad Ali was in the ring you might actually like yourself.

With love,

DemocratSinceBirth



P.S. You are desperately trying to get a rise out of me. I would literally rather die than accede. Please proceed. You are entertaining, albeit, in a profoundly pathetic way.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
148. What a disappointment.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:03 PM
Apr 2016

Well, the bad news is that you pissed away a good deal. I can no longer provide you with multiple choices, which was looking like your only hope of breaking out of zero-land.

But the good news is that you can try again!

How many times was Ali punched in the head before the photograph below was taken? (Careful! This could be a trick question.)

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
149. You are not half as clever as you think you are.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:10 PM
Apr 2016

You are not half as clever as you think you are. Several posters have seen right through your little "who me" act. I will post their observations in my next reply.

But for now I will post and let others decide:


Ali took too many blows to the head.

-bvf



In the Sixties there was a phrase among Black people: “Tell it like it is.” Very few people are willing to speak of life in these terms, but there were two persons, possibly because of their association with Ali, who told it like it was. One of them was Ferdie Pacheco, known as boxing’s “fight doctor.” He was in a position to observe Ali’s effect on the populations surrounding him, and on the communities that he visited during his boxing career. Pacheco reminds us that Ali singlehandedly defused the idea that Black was ugly, and points out that prior to Ali:

Blacks were considered subhuman – hard word for me to say, but that’s what they were. In the South especially. That’s where Ali’s from, in the South. He comes along and by dint of his athletic ability, his graciousness, his funniness, his personality, and this incredibly good-looking body and face, he says to the camera, ‘Black is beautiful. Look at me. I’m prettier than anybody in Hollywood…and I’m black.’…By the time he got through, he had defused the idea that black was ugly. ‘You don’t have to worry about being black. Black is beautiful.’ And in that context alone, if you didn’t look at anything else, he was just as big as Martin Luther King, or anybody else, ‘cause he got black people thinking that they were good, nay, that they were better.”[45]





http://www.americansc.org.uk/Online/Ali.htm


Love,

DemocratSinceBirth

P.S.

I almost forgot. As I have said, ad infinitum and ad nauseum , if you were half the man in real life Muhammad Ali was in the ring you might like yourself.


 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
150. Truly, I don't care what you do.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:15 PM
Apr 2016

To this day, you're still getting Latin phrases wrong.

I almost forgot. As I have said, ad infinitum and ad nauseum , if you were half the man in real life Muhammad Ali was in the ring you might like yourself.


If I were you, I'd stick to whatever language you were raised with, instead of risking looking the idiot.

How many punches to the head before this one?

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
152. Temper, temper
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:56 PM
Apr 2016
If I were you, I'd stick to whatever language you were raised with, instead of risking looking the idiot.

-bvf




Temper, temper, little man, you might actually hurt yourself




Ad nauseam is a Latin term for disgust that has continued so long that it has continued "to [the point of] nausea".For example, the sentence "This topic has been discussed ad nauseam" signifies that the topic in question has been discussed extensively, and that those involved in the discussion have grown tired of it.

Ad infinitum is a Latin phrase meaning "to infinity" or "forevermore".



As I have said, ad nauseam and ad infinitum, little man, if you were half the man in real life Muhammad Ali was in the ring you might actually like yourself.

Truly, I don't care what you do.

-bvf


Sure you don't, little man. For your edification:


Pursuant to jury duty, I read this whole subthread and had to have an antacid and a wash...

... before stating that I found myself in complete agreement with you. I appreciate the fact that other jurists voted 2-5 to leave it as well.

Have a nice day, 1SBM.

-hekate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1830270



Hmmm. Wasn't "Mr. Interlocutor" a minstrel show character? This guy is so subtle...

-hekate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1831089



Cowardly racist assholes. Beaming their prejudices, riding out GD for all its worth

-msanthrope

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1848104



This sub-thread is just a reminder ...

there are DU:"progressives" who are not progressive in the least ... the are just cowardly assholes.

1StrongBlackMan

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1830096



wow, wish some people would just say they don't like black folks instead of hiding


-uponit

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1826666



86. Juror #3 is a God(dess)

Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I read the subthread in question, and am in complete agreement with 1SBM.

-Number 23

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1834919


To paraphrase Kafka, in a battle of a little man against the world, bet on the world.



Love ya, little man,


DemocratSinceBirth

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
153. Keep at it. This is such fun.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:10 PM
Apr 2016

Mangle all the Latin you like, call me all the names you like, cut and paste all you like.

Nothing can change the fact that Muhammad Ali made his living by getting punched in the head--over, and over, and over. This seems to bother you, and that I find hilarious.

There are obviously other things equally hilarious on the subject (you know what the subject is, right?) but this will do the trick for now.

How many punches to the head before this one?

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
154. Your arrant pedantry
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:23 PM
Apr 2016
Keep at it. This is such fun.

Mangle all the Latin you like, call me all the names you like, cut and paste all you like.

-bvf




Your arrant pedantry , little man, is a poor camouflage for your paucity of character or the most rudimentary social skills. Oh, and I have not called you any names, little man. I have used appropriate descriptors. When I was in college my friends called me "Big Bri", short for Brian. I never took umbrage.



Pursuant to jury duty, I read this whole subthread and had to have an antacid and a wash...

... before stating that I found myself in complete agreement with you. I appreciate the fact that other jurists voted 2-5 to leave it as well.

Have a nice day, 1SBM.

-hekate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1830270



Hmmm. Wasn't "Mr. Interlocutor" a minstrel show character? This guy is so subtle...

-hekate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1831089



Cowardly racist assholes. Beaming their prejudices, riding out GD for all its worth

-msanthrope

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1848104



This sub-thread is just a reminder ...

there are DU:"progressives" who are not progressive in the least ... the are just cowardly assholes.

1StrongBlackMan

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1830096



wow, wish some people would just say they don't like black folks instead of hiding


-uponit

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1826666



86. Juror #3 is a God(dess)

Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I read the subthread in question, and am in complete agreement with 1SBM.

-Number 23

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1834919



Love ya,

DemocratSince Birth


P.S. I forgot one, little man



Like I said ...



I see no "progressive" there ... just a keyboard tough guy whose real life persona would no doubt explain his/her internet persona.

-1StrongBlackMan


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1830227
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
157. Keep fumbling.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:29 PM
Apr 2016

Cool story, "Bri."

Your "friends" probably understood "BRI" to be a common abbreviation for "basic reading inventory."

Right, "Bri"?

Hey "Bri," get a load of this: It's a picture of Muhammad Ali eating. (How come he always seems to be eating with his hands? Have you noticed that?)

Anyway, you know the drill. How many punches to the head are we talking about here, would you say, "Bri"?

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
158. Do you like this post?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:37 PM
Apr 2016
Keep fumbling.Cool story, "Bri."

Your "friends" probably understood "BRI" to be a common abbreviation for "basic reading inventory."

Right, "Bri"?

Hey "Bri," get a load of this: It's a picture of Muhammad Ali eating. (How come he always seems to be eating with his hands? Have you noticed that?)
[



Wow, now you are obsessed with the man's eating habits !



Gawd, your repartee is weak, really weak..

And all this time, little man, I thought I was called Big Bri because my first name is Brian and I was six feet two inches tall and athletic looking.


Do you like this post, little man?



As a Bernie Sanders supporter, let me support YOU, DemocratSinceBirth!

It is, indeed, SHOCKING to me to read that other guy's ridicule of Mohammed Ali. I am old enough to remember the Vietnam War. Some of the boys from my high school served in that war. Many young men of all colors, and some young women, served in the US military in that war. And many of them died or were maimed or otherwise ruined in that war. And that was also true of many, many, many Vietnamese in that war. I remember the utter shame and misery of being a young American in that time, with increasing evidence that it was an unjust, unnecessary, futile, vicious war, and seeing so many boys sent off to be traumatized or physically maimed or killed, wreaking such havoc on that tiny nation that had not attacked us. And then came the stories about how so many of the Black young men were being treated even worse, and that made it even worse! You may think we white kids didn't care about that, but oh yes we did! And nothing we said or did seemed to make any difference. And then this young Black guy, Mohammed Ali, had the guts and ingenuity to STAND UP to the white supremacist architects of the mass murder machine that was that war. He not only defied their draft call; he showed other Black guys some tricks that could work! And he wouldn't shut up about it! It was part of what we had hoped for, especially those of us who had read that poem that says, Nobody sets a free man free; a free man sets himself free. I always wonder how many Black young men lived because Mohammed Ali used his strength, his guts, and his intelligence to stand up as a champion at that crucial hour.

-raging moderate


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1859466



I almost feel sorry for you, almost.

Love,

DemocratSinceBirth


P.S. Little refers to the smallness of your character. I have no idea of your physical stature.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #158)

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
160. I know you hate my guts and I am okay with it
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 07:32 AM
Apr 2016
How about this one, "Bri"?


http://assets.catawiki.nl/assets/2014/12/31/3/6/c/36cc7920-90d3-11e4-8a21-b556dc177694.jp *







How many times do you think Ali got punched in the head by the time this picture was taken, "Bri"?

As always, watch out for trick questions.

And as always, nobody gives a crap about your vital statistics. Sounds like you post them for your own benefit, which is a bit unsettling. "Bri."


-bvf


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1251&pid=1862862



I know you hate my guts and I am okay with it. I am actually proud someone like you hates my guts but why did you denigrate an entire race by posting an image that is disturbingly close to the now verboten lawn jockey?





* when you copy and paste the image please add a g after the p. I don't feel comfortable re-posting it

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
161. What is wrong with you?
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 06:41 PM
Apr 2016

I humbly request you peer into your conscience, heed your better angels, and choose a different path.

Thank you.

Response to bvf (Reply #62)

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
171. Great pic.
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:47 AM
May 2016

Thank you for interjecting something positive into a back and forth that everybody on DU could have most certainly done without. You and I don't agree on our choice of candidates, but the crap thrown at you in this exchange was both unnecessary and shameful. Thank you for rising above it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
172. Prince looks almost angelic in that photo.
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:54 AM
May 2016


BTW, check out our friend's signature. I have changed my avatar FOUR TIMES and he has changed his signature four times to mock me.

I just changed my avatar to Malcolm X. Let's see what happens.

Thank you for your kind words. It reminds me that people are more than the candidate they support.


DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
84. You are correct.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:45 PM
Apr 2016

Interlocutor. I say, Bones, were you ever in love?

Bones. I wasn't nothin' else, old hoss.

Interlocutor. What kind of a girl was she?

Bones. She was highly polished; yes, indeed. Her fadder was a varnish-maker, and, what's better still, she was devoted to her own sweet Pomp.

Interlocutor. What do you mean by that? She must have been a spicy girl.

Bones. Yes, dat's de reason she was so fond of me. She was a poickess, too.

Interlocutor. A poetess, you mean.

Bones. Yes, she used to write verses for de newspapers

Interlocutor. Is that so, Bones?


http://twain.lib.virginia.edu/huckfinn/minstrl.html


DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
164. This is a political board ...What is wrong with you?
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:15 PM
Apr 2016

If you have no respect for your fellow posters please show respect for the hosts who make this board possible.

Thank you in advance.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
163. Please address your fellow posters with more respect.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 07:14 PM
Apr 2016

Thank you in advance.

An apology might be in order as well.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
44. So first you claim he got hit in the head too many times and then post this pic... what are you
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:06 AM
Apr 2016

.. REALLY trying to say!?

Why not just come out with it?!

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
53. He is trying to say it is okay to denigrate black cultural icons with Parkinson's Disease.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:56 PM
Apr 2016

He is trying to say it okay to denigrate black cultural icons with Parkinson's Disease by posting images of them in a most unflattering light as possible.

It is an all too subtle or not so so subtle way of pushing the envelope. I used to post on the ESPN NBA General Board that no longer exists. When folks have the opportunity to post on whatever they want some of them will invariably post on race. There was this one poster named weezer who constantly pushed the envelope. He would stereotype African American women and call them "Shaniqua". When called on it he would say "Well , there are African American women called Shaniqua." There are also African American women called Zoe, Stacey, Lisa, Mary, Kimberly, Gabby, et cetera.


That's the game being played here... Thank God the person playing it is on the other side.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
55. In the context of this discussion the photos of Muhammad Ali that were used were despicable.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:19 PM
Apr 2016

It is a sad day when Muhammad Ali is treated more reverentially by George Walker Bush:


WASHINGTON -- Muhammad Ali, his hands shaking and eyes
reflecting the White House chandeliers, accepted the nation's
highest civilian award from President Bush on Wednesday.





http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2219166


The world has changed. Our mutual friend posted a video and photo of him selling peddling roach spray. In his ignorance he failed to see how that was emblematic of the way the media treated black icons in the 70s and what they thought black folk cared most about. Here is Ali with his grandson in a Louis Vuitton ad:



Response to bvf (Reply #12)

raging moderate

(4,624 posts)
155. As a Bernie Sanders supporter, let me support YOU, DemocratSinceBirth!
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:55 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:39 PM - Edit history (1)

It is, indeed, SHOCKING to me to read that other guy's ridicule of Mohammed Ali. I am old enough to remember the Vietnam War. Some of the boys from my high school served in that war. Many young men of all colors, and some young women, served in the US military in that war. And many of them died or were maimed or otherwise ruined in that war. And that was also true of many, many, many Vietnamese in that war. I remember the utter shame and misery of being a young American in that time, with increasing evidence that it was an unjust, unnecessary, futile, vicious war, and seeing so many boys sent off to be traumatized or physically maimed or killed, wreaking such havoc on that tiny nation that had not attacked us. And then came the stories about how so many of the Black young men were being treated even worse, and that made it all even worse! You may think we white kids didn't care about that, but oh yes we did! And nothing we said or did seemed to make any difference. And then this young Black guy, Mohammed Ali, had the guts and ingenuity to STAND UP to the white supremacist architects of the mass murder machine that was that war. He not only defied their draft call; he showed other Black guys some tricks that could work! And he wouldn't shut up about it! It was part of what we had hoped for, especially those of us who had read that poem that says, Nobody sets a free man free; a free man sets himself free. I always wonder how many Black young men lived because Mohammed Ali used his strength, his guts, and his intelligence to stand up as a champion at that crucial hour.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,852 posts)
156. Thank you so much.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:03 PM
Apr 2016

He was also prohibited from boxing for three and one years which was his livelihood.He would have been 27, 28, and 29. Those are the prime years of any athlete's career.

If he would have not refused induction he would have have got a deal like Joe Louis during WW ll where he would have participated in exhibition matches. He would have never been put in harm's way. But if he did that he would have lent his name to the war. That was something he couldn't do.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
145. Nice transparency page you have there...how many more states do you plan to fuck?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:17 AM
Apr 2016



The PURGE- COMING JUNE 2016 to a Theater Near You!

MattP

(3,304 posts)
4. Yes outspending her 3-1 and getting his ass handed to him
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:41 PM
Apr 2016

Is all part of the plan, by all means send him more money

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
23. Sanders and Hillary campaigns have both collected...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:48 AM
Apr 2016

...nearly identical amounts - $183 Million.

Of course that not counting Hillary's super PAC.

musicblind

(4,563 posts)
24. Uh, the article you linked to shows that Sanders has out spent her...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:51 AM
Apr 2016

It may not be by 2 to 1 but he has outspent her so far according to that chart you linked to.

 

jknudsen

(52 posts)
26. The next war
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:11 AM
Apr 2016

When your kids or grand kids are send off to the next uncalled for war. I'm going to laugh so hard at this.
How sad.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
35. Not everybody believes the Sandersite lies about Hillary Clinton
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:15 AM
Apr 2016

I'm still gonna laugh and kick this OP though.

 

Unicorn

(424 posts)
90. Can I ask how Hillary Clinton is going to win in the GE?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:53 AM
Apr 2016

A significant portion of Dems are leaving the Dem party over her.

How is she going to magically unify them?

Just saying, you can get your corporate horse through the DNC but there's a serious problem with her getting votes after that.

She should be disqualified because the independents and progressives refuse to show up to vote for her.

Are you really so blindly politicized that you don't see glaring writing on the wall?

She can't unify.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
96. Blah blah blah
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:57 AM
Apr 2016

It's the same bullshit that the Hillary PUMAs said about Obama when it was clear they had lost the primaries.

Nobody will remember these little claims even by mid-summer.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
127. He will win California. No doubt.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:59 AM
Apr 2016

Californians are not sheep. They are not into being led by the DNC and Debbie Downer. Independent thinkers out here and many, many young people who are not interested in the corporate owned candidate.

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
32. "...if national polls of the primary are any gauge"
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:57 AM
Apr 2016

Unfortunately, they are not.

The Problem With Bernie Sanders’ Polling Argument

The numbers are accurate, but both Democratic and Republican pollsters say that they don’t mean as much as Sanders says they do.

To be sure, Clinton also makes the case that she would be a stronger candidate in a general election due to her experience and ability to compromise. But Sanders’ emphasis on the polls is misguided, experts say.

General election polls taken months before voting day have a history of being wrong. According to data compiled by FiveThirtyEight, general election polls taken a year in advance have been inaccurate by more than 5 percentage points in the last 10 out of 14 elections for which there is data.

Even polls six months out are inaccurate, too. For example, at this point in the 2000 election, late April polls showed then-Gov. George W. Bush with a strong national lead of five points over then-Vice President Al Gore. Bush lost the popular vote to Gore by half a percentage point that November.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
102. Lol....after today...and Hillary padding both delegate and
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:25 AM
Apr 2016

popular vote lead....sanders will need 80% of remaing pledged delegates and votes to catch her....about 100% improbable.... Too bad we can't wager....i would a bunch of money off of sanders supporters...

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
125. My Ignore function is working like a charm
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:54 AM
Apr 2016

124 replies, I see 3. That's a new record. It's obvious where the people from the Dark Side are gloating this morning.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
128. Ignore has been a godsend this election season.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:02 PM
Apr 2016

My only concern is that DU will run short of bandwidth for my ever expanding list of rude obnoxious gloaters.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
151. This is what could do it.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:31 PM
Apr 2016

With Hillary being dirty and her getting exposed for her tricks we may get the pivotal swing of mass opinion where they start to cheer for him realizing they have been watching a fixed fight...or we get a scene like in Snatch where the fixed fight takes a bit of a turn.

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