2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThere won't be a contested convention. Get over it.
Right after CA and NJ vote on June 7th, Hillary will be at a clear majority of pledged and super delegates. The super delegates will make it clear they're not budging. Polling will show 70-75% of Dems consider the race completely and totally over. Sanders will concede and endorse Hillary.
That's what will happen. Everything else is just going through the motions until CA has voted.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)MFM008
(19,863 posts)for facts and math.
Keep hope alive though.............
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)won't be voting for Mrs. Clinton in November.
Get over it.
MFM008
(19,863 posts)who are you kidding?
Zynx
(21,328 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,170 posts)Maybe not so much, eh?
Zynx
(21,328 posts)And even if there was, it's far more likely Biden will be the choice of Hillary's delegates, not Bernie.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,170 posts)The wavering detector is starting to beep.
Demsrule86
(69,100 posts)Rightwing FBI types leak shit to help the GOP but when all is said and done there is no wrongdoing...once again Rice and Powell both had private servers.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)who are stupid enough or angry enough to put a NAZI in the White House and have a Congress who will take away voting rights for people of color, deport 11 million immigrants, and overturn a woman's right to choose what happens to her body. Yes there are stupid and angry but just not that many.
Demsrule86
(69,100 posts)They never intended to vote for anyone besides Trump or Cruz.
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Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)So that proves your little rant off. Hillary has a very good chance to get in the White House.
berniepdx420
(1,784 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,170 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)Demsrule86
(69,100 posts)It shows how immature most of you are and foolish...you want a revolution but you vote for any GOP and it's finished. They get the courts...then you don't have to vote for 20 or 30 years.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,170 posts)Sheesh.
berniepdx420
(1,784 posts)might get indicted or...
Zynx
(21,328 posts)berniepdx420
(1,784 posts)attorney... This is happening to hillary not the Bern.. just to be clear...
Demsrule86
(69,100 posts)The rest of you...'frankly my dear I don't give a damn'.
berniepdx420
(1,784 posts)Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)Get over it.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)ridgenvalley
(58 posts)Well there is confidence bubbling over.
I know DU likes to ignore progressive, Independent, rural, and (godhelpus) Repuke voters. But they kinda dislike her. So you better hope you have enough establishment style D voters in November. I don't think you do.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)Demsrule86
(69,100 posts)If you were older and smarter, you would know how terrible either of the GOP clowns would be.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,170 posts)She's going to go it alone, no need for the indies, so what's to worry about?
Zynx
(21,328 posts)And if they deny it to Trump, he'll go third party or his supporters will stay home. She'll win in either case.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,170 posts)And Hillary is no Obama, either.
Demsrule86
(69,100 posts)Except for a few of you who are truly nutters or Gop types, most people are not stupid enough to allow either GOP candidate to win.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)What people don't get is that Clinton can be acclimated as the nominee on the first ballot.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)what a strange word choice
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)No matter how it's phrased, there won't be a second ballot because there are only two candidates.
Demsrule86
(69,100 posts)They think we engage in the same stupidity as the Republicans.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... register as a Democrat if they want to participate in the DEMOCRATIC primary.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)No getting over anything.
clinton will have a hell of a fight for November. Get over it. (you like that? wanted you to know how it feels.)
metamorphosis
(25 posts)Unfortunately for HRC, and for her supporters, the pledged and superdelegates are tasked to ensure that the party will not make the horrible mistake of nominating a likely criminal to be president of the US.
Right now, there are numerous investigations into possible illegalities that might have been committed by HRC. If there are any indictments or supoenas, a lot of delegates and superdelegates are going to have to ask whether it is in the nation's interest to nominate a candidate who may well be impeached in the first year of her first term (if, in the eyes of republican congressmen, she is viewed already as having committed high crimes or misdimeanors).
In fact, there is already a movement to initiate impeachment proceedings against HRC as early as the first week of her first term.
so, yes, the convention could be automatically contested due to legal proceedings, if they move definitely, if documents are leaked, etc.
WhenTheLeveeBreaks
(55 posts)I do not share this opinion. I believe Comey, like most in DC, is a political hack. The "others" have feelings he is a straight shooter, but I have evidence and history on my side. Obama has made it clear he does not want an indictment and does not expect one. To understand anything other than "marching orders received" by Comey would be ignoring the obvious. I believe James Comey is willing to flush his professional reputation in exchange for political expediency.
There will be no indictment because the FBI/Comey is not going to recommend one. This, of course, will be a political, rather than a legal conclusion.
The day Comey announces "No indictment", you will see FBI agents and some DOJ prosecutors resign. These people will be perfectly willing to tell their stories in front of the camera. Since the mainstream media is so fully in the tank for Hillary, they will try their best to ignore these resignations and discredit their stories and opinions.
By this time, DU will be in full Hillary-only mode.
This is where the fun starts.
Of course, Comey may surprise me in which case the path takes a much clearer direction.
It has been an extremely bizarre primary season. It's about to get a lot bizarrer.
Demsrule86
(69,100 posts)Powell and Rice had private servers.
Demsrule86
(69,100 posts)She will win officially. The primary will be called and you will stop posting right wing bullshit, or you will be tossed out...that is how it works.
Broward
(1,976 posts)Good on you for helping them carry the day once again.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)It is a great possibility Hillary will be able to present a clear majority before the convention, not the first time this has happened.
There are ways the plane could be landed gently.