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Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:31 PM Apr 2016

Millennials Poll Shows Sanders' Revolution Reshaping US Electorate

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/04/25/millennials-poll-shows-sanders-revolution-reshaping-us-electorate

"He's not moving a party to the left. He's moving a generation to the left," says pollster


Bernie Sanders is changing the face of American politics, a new poll from Harvard's Institute of Politics suggests.

According to the survey released Monday, Sanders remains the most popular presidential candidate for so-called millennials between the ages of 18-29, 54 percent of whom view him favorably, compared to 31 percent who harbor unfavorable views.

Just 37 percent of respondents say they see Sanders rival Hillary Clinton favorably, compared to 53 percent who do not.

More importantly, regardless of how Sanders fares in Tuesday's primaries, or in the race for the nomination overall, there's little doubt that the senator from Vermont is making a lasting impact, polling director John Della Volpe told the Washington Post on Monday.

"He's not moving a party to the left. He's moving a generation to the left," Della Volpe said of Sanders. "Whether or not he's winning or losing, it's really that he's impacting the way in which a generation—the largest generation in the history of America—thinks about politics."

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A Great Awakening!

This had to scare the shit out of the RW...in both parties!

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Millennials Poll Shows Sanders' Revolution Reshaping US Electorate (Original Post) Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 OP
This is very true and why it would be INSANE to derail his efforts by allowing the GOP to take Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #1
Seems to me its more insane to nominate the weaker candidate in the first place, who happens also . KPN Apr 2016 #4
KPN hit it on the head. Svafa Apr 2016 #9
Yes, but good that Sanders may be raising an awareness Hortensis Apr 2016 #12
I dunno. I'm 65. I'm with the kids 100%. KPN Apr 2016 #15
Of course. I'm talking about those of us who choose Hortensis Apr 2016 #19
Hahaha. Some of us have been following Bernie for years .... KPN Apr 2016 #25
Which is why I am a Bernie voter, but I am a realist who will do what I have to do Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #10
the GOP isn't going to be taking over anything anymore 0rganism Apr 2016 #14
Today's tin ear: vote Clinton or Bernie's work will come to nothing. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #16
If Bernie loses, hell yes, anything else is suicide and insane. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #24
Hmm, is it a revolution or not? ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #18
I like that ... "RW in both parties." KPN Apr 2016 #2
I consider the DLC, Blue Dog Third Way neo-Dems Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #5
100% Spot On! KPN Apr 2016 #6
Why do you think they've been trying to minimize him from the get-go? winter is coming Apr 2016 #3
Hell, it scares the shit out of rightwingers here posing as an "Underground!" nt villager Apr 2016 #7
Thank God. Thank God. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #8
Thank God truly! "Young Liberals, Show Me Your Strength!" ~ To Borrow from Steinbeck, sorta. appalachiablue Apr 2016 #11
It's one thing to think about politics and WhiteTara Apr 2016 #13
Yeah, it's not like my generation turned up at the polls to give Sanders unexpected victories... eom Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #17
I'm so glad you did. I hope that you will take the next WhiteTara Apr 2016 #20
Don't take this as an attack on you, but if Clinton becomes the nominee - or worse: president - Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #21
All politics are local. WhiteTara Apr 2016 #22
Which should prove to everybody that ... it is not Sanders' revolution. ieoeja Apr 2016 #23
The youth is where the hope is and where the future is. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #26

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
1. This is very true and why it would be INSANE to derail his efforts by allowing the GOP to take
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:32 PM
Apr 2016

over and destroy it all.

This can be just the beginning of an awesome revolution, or it can shut the door on it.

KPN

(15,676 posts)
4. Seems to me its more insane to nominate the weaker candidate in the first place, who happens also .
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:35 PM
Apr 2016

to be part of the establishment the movement is against. That would be insane -- working against one's goals.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Yes, but good that Sanders may be raising an awareness
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:12 PM
Apr 2016

that will be lasting. I suspect there is a real effect on older voters too but that they just aren't swallowing the easy-revolution schtick. Rejecting Sanders's candidacy itself is not the same as rejecting the need to fight economic inequality.

Who feels that more than those of us who have already lost a quarter century of income security, and counting? I'm pretty sure my husband and I are not the only ones whose routine retirement savings have been shaved down incrementally over the past 30 years because it was necessary as our incomes declined or failed to keep up with inflation. We know when we're sliding into a hole, and most others do too.

KPN

(15,676 posts)
15. I dunno. I'm 65. I'm with the kids 100%.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:53 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie or bust.

PS -- lifelong registered Democrat since 1972, voted D up and down the ticket every election without exception. Might be breaking that streak in 2016.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Of course. I'm talking about those of us who choose
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:00 AM
Apr 2016

a candidate who we feel will be able to achieve many of her goals.

It's not that Bernie's call to tilt straight at the dragon doesn't appeal, though. It does, but after watching for months my observation was always that he is not the man for the job. Sanders entered the stage on Warren's shoulders, you know. Now she, with her combination of strong goals and record of achievement, I would vote for.

KPN

(15,676 posts)
25. Hahaha. Some of us have been following Bernie for years ....
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

well before Elizabeth was ever heard of or from.

Do you think any of us would be following Bernie if we didn't think he could achieve goals? Come now.

Have you, looked at Bernie's Congressional record? He's achieved much more than either Hillary or Elizabeth.

We're not having to make a choice between Bernie and Elizabeth now are we?

Got anything else?

0rganism

(23,984 posts)
14. the GOP isn't going to be taking over anything anymore
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:51 PM
Apr 2016

they had their time, extended by 45 years thanks to paragons like Nixon and St. Reagan but doomed thereby to pass from the face of the world.

this is the end for the GOP, and the rise of the New Democratic Party as THE dominant political force of the next decade.

"allowing" doesn't even enter into the equation -- not even the DNC could stop this, as if they'd want to. there are bigger forces at work here.

ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
18. Hmm, is it a revolution or not?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:05 AM
Apr 2016

If his supporters are angry and want to change the system, and he loses, are they just going to give up? Or are they going to get angrier and keep the movement going?

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
5. I consider the DLC, Blue Dog Third Way neo-Dems
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:38 PM
Apr 2016

to be disenfranchised Republicans.

WHy? Because I have the same arguments here with clinton supporters that I have with my RW friends.
The same damned arguments.

$15/hr
Fracking
Monsanto
GMO
NAFTA
TPP
etc
etc
etc

KPN

(15,676 posts)
6. 100% Spot On!
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:45 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie or bust -- that's what I'm committed to. I've decided I can't be held hostage to the whole SCOTUS drama. Who cares about equal rights if global warming and/or mass violent insurrection destroy us all in 20 years anyway. My kids have convinced me of that. One is a woman and the other is gay. You think they aren't invested in equal rights? But that's their attitude and I understand where they are coming from. Status quo doesn't cut it and Hillary's not able to break the bonds of her entire existence -- it ain't gonna happen.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
3. Why do you think they've been trying to minimize him from the get-go?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:33 PM
Apr 2016

How dare he encourage voters to expect things!

appalachiablue

(41,191 posts)
11. Thank God truly! "Young Liberals, Show Me Your Strength!" ~ To Borrow from Steinbeck, sorta.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 05:58 PM
Apr 2016

It's Wonderful To See!!



WhiteTara

(29,731 posts)
13. It's one thing to think about politics and
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:42 PM
Apr 2016

totally another to participate. If they pick up the mantle and become involved in a meaningful way (run for various offices) it will be wonderful. If not, it will just be another keyboard warrior story.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
17. Yeah, it's not like my generation turned up at the polls to give Sanders unexpected victories... eom
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:01 AM
Apr 2016

WhiteTara

(29,731 posts)
20. I'm so glad you did. I hope that you will take the next
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:52 AM
Apr 2016

step and begin to govern your communities by getting involved on the local level. Good luck. You are our future.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
21. Don't take this as an attack on you, but if Clinton becomes the nominee - or worse: president -
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:03 AM
Apr 2016

it could well be that my generation will choose to be the future of a new party. We are sick and tired of the status quo.

WhiteTara

(29,731 posts)
22. All politics are local.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:22 AM
Apr 2016

The only way to build a new party is by starting locally. You can't start at the presidential level. Good luck. You are our future.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
23. Which should prove to everybody that ... it is not Sanders' revolution.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:04 AM
Apr 2016

The electorate was ready for this in 1992. But the VRWC kept us distracted with so many stupid lies that kept us too busy defending Clinton to notice we were being screwed by our own.

This current incarnation started with Occupy Wall Street. A hefty percentage of Sanders' supporters were pushing for Warren before Sanders took up the banner. In the chicken-or-egg question, the "revolution" came first.


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