Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:06 AM

Bernie is HONEST??

Last night, during the MSNBC town hall, Bernie said two things, which taken together, show him to be as much of a two-faced politician as the people he has spent the past six months decrying.

He said that he will do everything in his power to make sure a Republican doesn't win the White House.

He also said that it's up to Hillary alone to convince his supporters to vote for her.

I'm sorry, but those two things do not jive at all. If Bernie is serious that he will do everything he can to stop Republicans from winning in November, the single biggest thing he can do is fully endorse Hillary and make sure he tells his supporters they need to go out and vote for her, and for other Democrats. They might not listen, as is their right, but it's his job as a Democrat now to make sure he is putting the message out there to support the party. The fact that he is hedging on that, while saying he's all-in for Democrats, is only a whisper away from being an outright lie.

85 replies, 3714 views

Thread info Bookmark this thread Trash this thread

Reply to this thread

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum

Replies to this discussion thread

85 replies	Author	Time	Post
Bernie is HONEST?? (Original post)	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	OP
Comparatively? Absolutely.	FBaggins	Apr 2016	#1
Hillary is a PROGRESSIVE?	hobbit709	Apr 2016	#2
Not on anything involving money. The fact is, she is pushing a global deal	Baobab	Apr 2016	#7
Yes.	Sparkly	Apr 2016	#19
More progressive than "We'll see" about supporting down ballot dems, no doubt	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#29
Sucking up to Golden Sacks is not progressive. Neither is war mongering.	hobbit709	Apr 2016	#30
Nor is the CFMA or Corporate immunity, Sanders is NOT the standard for progressiveness in	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#32
I doubt you would recognize progressive if it bit you on the posterior.	hobbit709	Apr 2016	#34
Ad homs are an indicator of a weak position	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#45
CFMA was stuffed into a Omnibus bill (thanks Bill Clinton) which he had to vote for.	JonLeibowitz	Apr 2016	#76
Again, Sanders gives no quarters so he gets none when it comes to nuance in votes	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#84
No, he isn't. nt	LexVegas	Apr 2016	#3
He said he'd do everything in his power to prevent a Repub in the White House	berni_mccoy	Apr 2016	#4
Speaking with forked tongue...just like your average pol. But, he's NOT one, of course.	Surya Gayatri	Apr 2016	#5
Bernie is the best candidate we have had in my lifetime.	Baobab	Apr 2016	#12
Not in mine, Team Used Car Salesmen are not fooling anyone with Senator "we'll see"	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#37
It is not in his power.	Downwinder	Apr 2016	#6
Exactly. Not complicated to figure out at all.	Barack_America	Apr 2016	#11
Go Bernie	liberal from boston	Apr 2016	#74
It will be a test of leadership.	Thinkingabout	Apr 2016	#8
He has shamelessly pandered to college students with promises he know he can't deliver.	Trust Buster	Apr 2016	#9
Why, because of WTO?	Baobab	Apr 2016	#13
Oh, for cripes sake.	TheCowsCameHome	Apr 2016	#10
Why are you pretending that you care about honesty in a pol?	Broward	Apr 2016	#14
How are those positions inconsistent or dishonest?	democrattotheend	Apr 2016	#15
Nice catch! And no. I used to think he was honest, but he has proved me wrong.	Lucinda	Apr 2016	#16
What lies about Clinton?	Armstead	Apr 2016	#36
That taking 1/30 her 1 year salary over 5 years from the banks constitutes influence of any kind	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#42
No that's a matter of whether you trust absolutely that it would have no influence or not.	Armstead	Apr 2016	#49
I gave Sanders 23 cents, that'll influence him ... yeah... ok,... the excuses abound when it	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#53
How many socks...	bobbobbins01	Apr 2016	#17
He also lied about not having any SuperPac. He has them, he's just not condoning them.	pnwmom	Apr 2016	#18
Your title and the content of the article are contraductory	Armstead	Apr 2016	#39
No, they are not. And has Bernie disavowed the nurses's union superpac, that was	pnwmom	Apr 2016	#51
You are not naive	Armstead	Apr 2016	#58
How was it not a lie for him to announce in the Town Hall that he has no super pac,	pnwmom	Apr 2016	#64
I'm not naive eitehr	Armstead	Apr 2016	#65
You're not naive so it's okay when Bernie lies. Got it. n/t	pnwmom	Apr 2016	#67
Call it what you want. She lies on a much larger and more damaging scale.	Armstead	Apr 2016	#68
Did you ever think doing everything he can INCLUDES trying to get the Democratic Establishment to	Skwmom	Apr 2016	#20
As opposed to raising $230,000,000 cash from speeches to banks, foreign governments & corporations.	Octafish	Apr 2016	#21
He is as honest as most career politicians.	NCTraveler	Apr 2016	#22
How is what he said a lie?	Armstead	Apr 2016	#47
Sanders has run the most dishonest Democratic primary campaign I can remember.	Donald Ian Rankin	Apr 2016	#23
at least he has proposed concrete things we can hold him too	Fast Walker 52	Apr 2016	#40
If so, that's your fault, not hers. N.T.	Donald Ian Rankin	Apr 2016	#41
Really? It's up to her to communicate to Dem voters.	Fast Walker 52	Apr 2016	#43
+1, His main argument against Clinton is she's sold out to Wall Street for taking 1/30th of one year	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#56
So when Hillary campaigns on gun control,	Kall	Apr 2016	#63
If Hillary Can't Convince Democrats	november3rd	Apr 2016	#24
Since Bernie cant get D's to vote for him, he should concede now.	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	#25
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Apr 2016	#35
enough will, like they have in the past	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#44
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Apr 2016	#52
Obama won... twice... evidence enough?! tia	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#55
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Apr 2016	#59
The same Sandrers is doing now; Sanders is winning the same coalition Clinton lost with in 08 so...	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#60
CrowCityDem is a sock puppet.	Buddyblazon	Apr 2016	#26
Jury results	DeadLetterOffice	Apr 2016	#71
Thank you...	Buddyblazon	Apr 2016	#72
It's very obvious doublespeak...	qdouble	Apr 2016	#27
"He also said that it's up to Hillary alone to convince his supporters to vote for her. "	Sky Masterson	Apr 2016	#28
Bernie can't force anyone...	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	#38
When we get to the convention	Sky Masterson	Apr 2016	#48
100% agree!	pandr32	Apr 2016	#31
Yeah.	Kall	Apr 2016	#33
They jive completely if you understand Bernie and his supporters.	aikoaiko	Apr 2016	#46
What are we like?	Sky Masterson	Apr 2016	#50
I'm not following your question.	aikoaiko	Apr 2016	#54
Well, I actually agree with what you just wrote.	Sky Masterson	Apr 2016	#57
You missed the line before.	basselope	Apr 2016	#61
you're straning at gnats	fluffyclouds	Apr 2016	#62
Those statements are both accurate and there is no logical disconnect	TheKentuckian	Apr 2016	#66
Amen, +1	840high	Apr 2016	#69
It's not if he gets you to vote for her, it's whether he TRIES.	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	#73
He will try and I'm sure lay down his opinions about the stakes. He'll bash pukes	TheKentuckian	Apr 2016	#75
He doesn't command his supporters like robots	AgingAmerican	Apr 2016	#70
Must be the company you keep- most people I know considered both candidates carefully.	bettyellen	Apr 2016	#77
Sanders doesn't command his supporters like robots	AgingAmerican	Apr 2016	#78
Sanders has been wasting some big money on getting his message out, and people are rejecting him.	bettyellen	Apr 2016	#79
Cat is out of the bag with Hillary	AgingAmerican	Apr 2016	#80
Bernie spent more money in many states- so his "bribes" aren't working I guess.	bettyellen	Apr 2016	#81
And the million dollars is spent on what?	AgingAmerican	Apr 2016	#82
Bernie has been paying for internet post since last summer, LOL.	bettyellen	Apr 2016	#83
You are projecting	AgingAmerican	Apr 2016	#85

Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:08 AM

FBaggins (25,474 posts)

1. Comparatively? Absolutely.

That doesn't mean that he isn't a politician in a campaign.

Bernie is HONEST??

1. Comparatively? Absolutely.

2. Hillary is a PROGRESSIVE?

7. Not on anything involving money. The fact is, she is pushing a global deal

19. Yes.

29. More progressive than "We'll see" about supporting down ballot dems, no doubt

30. Sucking up to Golden Sacks is not progressive. Neither is war mongering.

32. Nor is the CFMA or Corporate immunity, Sanders is NOT the standard for progressiveness in

34. I doubt you would recognize progressive if it bit you on the posterior.

45. Ad homs are an indicator of a weak position

76. CFMA was stuffed into a Omnibus bill (thanks Bill Clinton) which he had to vote for.

84. Again, Sanders gives no quarters so he gets none when it comes to nuance in votes

3. No, he isn't. nt

4. He said he'd do everything in his power to prevent a Repub in the White House

5. Speaking with forked tongue...just like your average pol. But, he's NOT one, of course.

12. Bernie is the best candidate we have had in my lifetime.

37. Not in mine, Team Used Car Salesmen are not fooling anyone with Senator "we'll see"

6. It is not in his power.

11. Exactly. Not complicated to figure out at all.

74. Go Bernie

8. It will be a test of leadership.

9. He has shamelessly pandered to college students with promises he know he can't deliver.

13. Why, because of WTO?

10. Oh, for cripes sake.

14. Why are you pretending that you care about honesty in a pol?

15. How are those positions inconsistent or dishonest?

16. Nice catch! And no. I used to think he was honest, but he has proved me wrong.

36. What lies about Clinton?

42. That taking 1/30 her 1 year salary over 5 years from the banks constitutes influence of any kind

49. No that's a matter of whether you trust absolutely that it would have no influence or not.

53. I gave Sanders 23 cents, that'll influence him ... yeah... ok,... the excuses abound when it

17. How many socks...

18. He also lied about not having any SuperPac. He has them, he's just not condoning them.

39. Your title and the content of the article are contraductory

51. No, they are not. And has Bernie disavowed the nurses's union superpac, that was

58. You are not naive

64. How was it not a lie for him to announce in the Town Hall that he has no super pac,

65. I'm not naive eitehr

67. You're not naive so it's okay when Bernie lies. Got it. n/t

68. Call it what you want. She lies on a much larger and more damaging scale.

20. Did you ever think doing everything he can INCLUDES trying to get the Democratic Establishment to

21. As opposed to raising $230,000,000 cash from speeches to banks, foreign governments & corporations.

22. He is as honest as most career politicians.

47. How is what he said a lie?

23. Sanders has run the most dishonest Democratic primary campaign I can remember.

40. at least he has proposed concrete things we can hold him too

41. If so, that's your fault, not hers. N.T.

43. Really? It's up to her to communicate to Dem voters.

56. +1, His main argument against Clinton is she's sold out to Wall Street for taking 1/30th of one year

63. So when Hillary campaigns on gun control,

24. If Hillary Can't Convince Democrats

25. Since Bernie cant get D's to vote for him, he should concede now.

44. enough will, like they have in the past

55. Obama won... twice... evidence enough?! tia

60. The same Sandrers is doing now; Sanders is winning the same coalition Clinton lost with in 08 so...

26. CrowCityDem is a sock puppet.

71. Jury results

72. Thank you...

27. It's very obvious doublespeak...

28. "He also said that it's up to Hillary alone to convince his supporters to vote for her. "

38. Bernie can't force anyone...

48. When we get to the convention

31. 100% agree!

33. Yeah.

46. They jive completely if you understand Bernie and his supporters.

50. What are we like?

54. I'm not following your question.

57. Well, I actually agree with what you just wrote.

61. You missed the line before.

62. you're straning at gnats

66. Those statements are both accurate and there is no logical disconnect

69. Amen, +1

73. It's not if he gets you to vote for her, it's whether he TRIES.

75. He will try and I'm sure lay down his opinions about the stakes. He'll bash pukes

70. He doesn't command his supporters like robots

77. Must be the company you keep- most people I know considered both candidates carefully.

78. Sanders doesn't command his supporters like robots

79. Sanders has been wasting some big money on getting his message out, and people are rejecting him.

80. Cat is out of the bag with Hillary

81. Bernie spent more money in many states- so his "bribes" aren't working I guess.