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Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:02 PM Apr 2016

Clinton’s Defense of Big Money Won’t Cut It

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/04/25/clintons-defense-big-money-wont-cut-it

The “money chase” slowly, imperceptibly influences the worldview of politicians. It influences who they think is important, what views they think are reputable.

Hillary Clinton’s heated defense of the money she has raised from Wall Street and other interests won’t cut it. Her protests contradict the basic case that virtually all Democrats and reformers have made for getting big money out of politics. It is vital that voters not be misled by them.

Normally, liberal politicians defend setting up super PACs, and collecting large sums from big donors, because while they pledge to curb the influence of the rich and corporations in our politics if elected, they can’t “unilaterally disarm.” Clinton repeats this argument, but it has less force against Bernie Sanders who not only has made the corrosive effect of big money contributions central to his campaign, but has demonstrated that it is possible to be competitive without setting up super PACs and without asking billionaires and millionaires for money. By funding his campaign with small donations raised online, Sanders has not only walked his talk, he’s stripped away the easy defense of “they all do it.”

In response, Clinton has put forth additional, but troublesome, arguments. She dismisses Sanders’ indictment of her funding ties as an unjustified attack on her character. She demands evidence of a specific vote or act that was done in return for a contribution. And she invokes the Obama defense: President Obama collected big bucks from Wall Street and yet went on to pass the most extensive banking reforms since the Great Depression.

Not Character, Common Sense

Few Democrats doubt that big money corrupts our politics.........
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Clinton’s Defense of Big Money Won’t Cut It (Original Post) Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 OP
"Few Democrats doubt that big money corrupts our politics" onecaliberal Apr 2016 #1
Clinton has said that it dosen't corrupt her Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #2
She's a pathalogical liar. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #3
well, yeah, there's THAT.... Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #5
And yet Sanders couldn't come up with a single point to criticize her about. randome Apr 2016 #4
Where've you been? Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #6
He was being nice...simple example is the Bankruptcy bill Human101948 Apr 2016 #7

onecaliberal

(32,783 posts)
1. "Few Democrats doubt that big money corrupts our politics"
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:12 PM
Apr 2016

Stupid is as stupid believes. You'd seriously have to be dumber than a bag of hammers to believe otherwise.

On Edit: As another poster already pointed out, why are there laws against giving gifts to congress if it isn't thought to be corrupting? It's common fucking sense.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. And yet Sanders couldn't come up with a single point to criticize her about.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:16 PM
Apr 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
6. Where've you been?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:20 PM
Apr 2016

He does it on a regular basis. In Fact, in his typical weak-kneed kum bi ya fashion, Hartmann has been recommending Bernie 'cut it out'

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
7. He was being nice...simple example is the Bankruptcy bill
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:24 PM
Apr 2016

which she did a 180 on when it was critical to her contributors. I am sure that she would have come up with some bullshit rationalization but that was an obvious example.

The story here--

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/07/us/politics/the-vote-for-bankruptcy-reform-that-haunts-hillary-clinton.html

As Senator Kerry said, she was against before she was for it.

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