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ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:52 AM Apr 2016

Assuming she wins the nom, who would be in her cabinet?

Huma, obviously, as chief of staff.
Sidney Blumenthal, either as SecState, head of the NSC, or head of the CIA/NSA?
Victoria Nuland as UN ambassador
John Bolton as special advisor on the Middle East
David Koch in charge of reforming Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid
Jamie Dimon as SecTreas
Rahm Emanuel as health and human services
Don Blankenship as head of the EPA

Who else?

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Assuming she wins the nom, who would be in her cabinet? (Original Post) ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 OP
Losing hurts, huh? Get it out of your system...it's ok. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #1
I am being serious. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #2
"I am being serious" sufrommich Apr 2016 #17
mind-reading - the new hillarian talent. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #19
Let it all out... Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #3
Don't threaten me like that ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #8
Dr Caligari as Sec of Snark and Assholery? Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #11
Oh, you poor thing. There, there! C'mere ... awww ... it'll be okay. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #4
False sympathy. Beowulf Apr 2016 #28
Oh good! You noticed! I thought maybe I was being too subtle. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #30
yeah, really funny. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #45
Not just me ... have you seen the vote count? NurseJackie Apr 2016 #46
do you have a functioning brain? ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #48
Are you calling me stupid? NurseJackie Apr 2016 #49
it is an inquiry. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #50
HA! :-D "An honest inquiry" (Yeah, right! :-P) NurseJackie Apr 2016 #54
I have heard broken records that play more informative tunes. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #58
I've had more productive conversations with my pets. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #61
Then, do continue. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #67
Of course the MSM can say this now that she has basically secured the nomination. Svafa Apr 2016 #53
There's little that's subtle about you, NJ Beowulf Apr 2016 #62
Coming from you, that means a lot to me. Thank you very much! :-P NurseJackie Apr 2016 #65
Satan? betsuni Apr 2016 #5
DWS= somewhere. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #6
Tough night for you guys last night. auntpurl Apr 2016 #7
Tough night for the country, truth be said. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #9
The country will be great. auntpurl Apr 2016 #10
It's a big giant East Coast/West Coast divide, the East still jails kids for pot and passes anti gay Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #13
I don't think it's East/West auntpurl Apr 2016 #14
you are probably correct. Then why is Hillary pissing ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #15
I don't think she is. auntpurl Apr 2016 #16
Unity at the cost of one's soul is too high a price. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #20
But the country won't be right. Beowulf Apr 2016 #64
Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense. Broward Apr 2016 #12
and the surge. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #21
LOL mcar Apr 2016 #18
Rachel Maddow - press secretary (nt) Ino Apr 2016 #22
dws 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #23
Henry Kissinger as Secretary of State BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #24
lol. this post is all sorts of pathetic. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #25
oh. are WE now. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #57
i am hopeful that people stop lying to themselves La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #59
9 million voters lied to themselves and Oh By The Way. There is another woman running Hiraeth Apr 2016 #60
David Brock, Secretary of Propaganda Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #26
*pats head* workinclasszero Apr 2016 #27
So many sadz. nt Codeine Apr 2016 #29
Goldman Sachs, same as currently. eom TransitJohn Apr 2016 #31
DWS somewhere Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #32
Remember when they relegated Carol Mostly Wrong ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #34
Lol, I'd forgotten! Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #41
Up to her, I imagine. Right now, I'm not MineralMan Apr 2016 #33
do you really think she would dare appoint SecTreas ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #35
Well, she's a US president, so no nemo137 Apr 2016 #37
Frankly, I have no idea. MineralMan Apr 2016 #39
“Well, I am going to have a Cabinet that looks like America, and 50 percent of America is women.” cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #36
Sounds good to me. There are plenty of superbly qualified MineralMan Apr 2016 #40
Ted Cruz' wife was a bigwig at CHase ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2016 #43
I really hope she means that. Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #68
Lackies. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #38
Some potential members (according to berniecrats) qdouble Apr 2016 #42
SOS, Kissinger. SecDef, Kagan. Labor, Koch. Scuba Apr 2016 #44
Insiders and yespeople. frylock Apr 2016 #47
She said half he cabinet will be women. So that is the limit of my prediction for President Clinton Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #51
Pete Peterson in charge of privatization of Social Security. fasttense Apr 2016 #52
No one that will do anything for any of us. jwirr Apr 2016 #55
Whomever Wall Street tells her to select. [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2016 #56
Ding ding ding!!! Winner winner chicken dinner!!! Yurovsky Apr 2016 #66
Adoph Hitler in charge of ... Dem2 Apr 2016 #63
Donald Trump? pantsonfire Apr 2016 #69

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
19. mind-reading - the new hillarian talent.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:01 AM
Apr 2016

How sweet.

Take a closer look at my list. Name one person she would not name.

Huma? Sidney? Jamie? Maybe not Bolton, but not because of any policy disagreements. There are none. Age, perhaps.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
45. yeah, really funny.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

Did you se what Salon posted today?

This is the kind of “hard-edged rhetoric about the world” Clinton uses, as the Times describes it. The report notes that Clinton has long “channeled [the] views” of her father, “a staunch Republican and an anticommunist.”

The article barely acknowledges Clinton’s leadership in the disastrous 2011 NATO war in Libya, mentioning the country just once. Yet, in February, the New York Times Magazine already devoted roughly 13,000 words to covering Hillary’s uniquely hands-on role in the catastrophic regime change operation.

The almost 7,000-word story also mentions Bernie Sanders only one time, and reduces his campaign to a “progressive insurgency.”

There is no question that Clinton is more hawkish than her opponent. The Vermont senator is not a peacenik, having backed the devastating U.S. war in Afghanistan, and the NATO bombing of Serbia before that. Yet Sanders has injected rare anti-war ideas into the mainstream Democratic debate.



And this is who you want ruining our country?
Read the whole article here:
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/27/democrats_this_is_why_you_need_to_fear_hillary_clinton_the_ny_times_is_absolutely_right_shes_a_bigger_hawk_than_the_republicanse/

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
46. Not just me ... have you seen the vote count?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:42 PM
Apr 2016

You should take a peek. It's really impressive! Did you notice that Bernie has fewer votes than even Donald? That's a big wow!

Salon editorial? GMAFB! What's next: HA Goodman?

Face it ... It's over for Bernie. Nothing you post will change that.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
48. do you have a functioning brain?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:33 PM
Apr 2016

Do facts and history matter to you?

Are you so blindly in favor of her that you refuse to even hear evidence and facts which tend to tarnish her aura?

My gosh, we are talking about a potential for starting WWIII with her holding the nuclear codes (hopefully on a secure server, rather than a FOIA avoiding private, unsecured server in a closet). Doesn't that have any impact on you?

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
50. it is an inquiry.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016

An honest inquiry, given your preference of changing the subject and constantly harping on vote totals.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
54. HA! :-D "An honest inquiry" (Yeah, right! :-P)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:57 PM
Apr 2016

But I can certainly understand why Hillary's vote totals (and DELEGATE totals) are a distressing subject for you.

I think someone should let you know that your doom and gloom, dire consequences, WWIII, Civil War II, Locusts, Plague, Earthquakes and Tidal Wave posts won't make a bit of difference.

From this point forward, no matter what you say, the FACT remains that BERNIE WILL NOT BE THE NOMINEE.


ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
58. I have heard broken records that play more informative tunes.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:29 PM
Apr 2016

Do you even care what sort of person she is and what kind of judgment she has displayed in the past?
Or are you on a mission here?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
61. I've had more productive conversations with my pets.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:39 PM
Apr 2016

She's the sort of person who has more votes and more delegates that Bernie.

What's your mission? It can't be that you want to "help" Bernie win ... that ship has sailed.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
67. Then, do continue.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:00 PM
Apr 2016

With your pets. I am sure that they are far more amused than we.

You are here just to create trouble. WHY? What drives you to do so?

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
10. The country will be great.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:06 AM
Apr 2016

But it's tough to realise that the message that resonates so strongly with you doesn't resonate with the majority of voters. I've been there. Not this cycle, though. This cycle I am hand-in-hand with the beautiful diversity of the Democratic base.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. It's a big giant East Coast/West Coast divide, the East still jails kids for pot and passes anti gay
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:13 AM
Apr 2016

and anti trans laws, the West is moving forward. I count the Hillary wins as the return of the Reagan Democrats, conservatism and traditional WASPiness is back in fashion.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
14. I don't think it's East/West
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:15 AM
Apr 2016

and I suspect Hillary will win California and put that theory to rest.

I also don't think it's open/closed primaries as so many Bernie supporters allege.

I think it's a simple case of diverse/homogenous, all other things being relatively equal, and in that the Democratic party has absolutely no chance without its diverse base, I feel very much on the right side of history here.

Interesting analysis:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1810518

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
16. I don't think she is.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:56 AM
Apr 2016

I think Bernie is missing unity opportunities.

Look, whatever you think of Hillary, you can't deny that after she lost in 2008 she put on her big girl pants and went out there and endorsed Obama without ANY reservations. She stumped for him like her hair was on fire. That is CLASS. That is party loyalty, and unity. She urged her supporters in the strongest terms to vote for Obama. She worked her ass off getting him elected.

And I believe without doubt she would have done the exact same thing for Bernie, should he have won the nomination. So when Bernie comes out with "Hillary will have to win my supporters over on her own", I'm not impressed with his commitment to unity and defeating Republicans as the ULTIMATE GOAL.

Hillary is not excluding anyone. People are disqualifying themselves because they don't like her or her policies. That's everyone's right. But she has a love and kindness theme to her campaign and has said several times now that Bernie and his supporters have more in common with Hillary and her supporters than what divides them.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
20. Unity at the cost of one's soul is too high a price.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:05 AM
Apr 2016

She is just plain wrong on many issues. She has too many ties to Wall. Her push for a putsch in Syria and Libya has created a mess that will take decades to fix. Libya - it was a stable country, that thought it had agreements with the west. And now look at the mess she created there.

And what of her vaunted experience? Putting Nuland in charge and creating messes in Ukraine and NATO?

We are supposed to unite a fatally flawed candidate who is more often right than wrong? Why?

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
25. lol. this post is all sorts of pathetic.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:10 AM
Apr 2016

i guess we are all in the anger stage, in the stages of grief. at least we are getting past denial.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
60. 9 million voters lied to themselves and Oh By The Way. There is another woman running
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:33 PM
Apr 2016

and running on the #1 issue that is dear to Bernie's heart ... just sayin'

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
34. Remember when they relegated Carol Mostly Wrong
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apr 2016

to New Zealand? And she still managed to screw it up by horribly insulting the locals?

I suspect that putting her in a White House office or as the head of a Department would be a step too far, even for the likes of Hillary. Now that she has served her purpose of fucking with anyone who dared oppose the queen, I suspect that she will be discarded like everyone else who did their thing and now wants her quid pro quo. Much like that newly worried dude over at Dkos.

American Samoa - THAT is where they hid Moseley Braun after her NZ fuck up.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
33. Up to her, I imagine. Right now, I'm not
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:38 AM
Apr 2016

worried about that. We have a November election to win. She has said that her cabinet will look like the nation, and that at least half of the cabinet appointees will be women. You can expect POC to be represented, along with other minority groups, too.

I suspect that most of those on your list will be not among them. Maybe Huma Abedin. She'd be a good Chief of Staff, I'm sure. She's smart, effective, and knows Hillary's thinking on most topics.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
35. do you really think she would dare appoint SecTreas
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:45 AM
Apr 2016

that did NOT come from Chase or some other major bank?

nemo137

(3,297 posts)
37. Well, she's a US president, so no
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:48 AM
Apr 2016

I'm like 90% sure that even Bernie would end up appointing someone with some kind of Wall Street experience, although he'd find someone who'd left for a University or liberal think-tank. That cabinet seat is basically a liaison role.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
39. Frankly, I have no idea.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:49 AM
Apr 2016

I'm really not involved in politics at that level of complexity. I'm sure that she will appoint someone with long experience in financial matters. I can't imagine any other course. Anyone who is qualified for that position will come from a financial background. I'm less interested in that than in the ideas of her appointee. I'll wait and see.

We aren't voting for cabinet officials. We're voting for someone who will appoint people to those positions.

Between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, I'll gladly prefer Clinton to make those appointments.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
36. “Well, I am going to have a Cabinet that looks like America, and 50 percent of America is women.”
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:47 AM
Apr 2016

That was her promise when Maddow asked her Monday what her cabinet would look like. Her cabinet WILL be 50% women.

http://theslot.jezebel.com/hillary-clinton-promises-that-half-of-her-cabinet-will-1773099821

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
40. Sounds good to me. There are plenty of superbly qualified
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:51 AM
Apr 2016

candidates for every position who are women. Our government should absolutely reflect the population, in my opinion.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
43. Ted Cruz' wife was a bigwig at CHase
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:59 AM
Apr 2016

so she would fit the bill.

Sarah Palin and Hillary agreed on Iraq and the surge.

Carly Fiorina in charge of the FED?

Jan Brewer in charge of the VA?

qdouble

(891 posts)
42. Some potential members (according to berniecrats)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:55 AM
Apr 2016

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Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
51. She said half he cabinet will be women. So that is the limit of my prediction for President Clinton
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

Cabinet Members.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
66. Ding ding ding!!! Winner winner chicken dinner!!!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:15 PM
Apr 2016

The HRC supporters are in complete and total denial that she is nothing more than a wholly owned subsidiary of Goldman Sachs. She will do NOTHING that upsets her corporate ownership. I don't think these greedy fuckers (WS) care about social issues (thankfully), but on economic issues, the 1% will do just great, while the rest of us get the shaft for 4-8 years while Hillary and Bill funnel hundreds of millions into their slush fund and jet-set around the world on AF1 on the taxpayers dime.

Single payer? $15 min wage? Peace as a foreign policy and decreasing defense budgets? Meaningful action on climate change? Wall Street reform? Tax increases on the super-rich?

If any of these issues are taken up by Hillary and are actually a priority for her administration I'll lead her 2020 fundraising team. Something tells me that ain't gonna happen...

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
63. Adoph Hitler in charge of ...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:43 PM
Apr 2016

I don't want to get in trouble, just trying to be as cynical as the O/P is.

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