Rhode Island Democratic ESTABLISHMENT CHEATS For Hillary Clinton

[Segami]

In Rhode Island it appears there was an attempt by the powers that be to make sure that fewer people voted. Part of this is because almost everyone in the state’s Democratic party infrastructure is for Hillary Clinton, and polls were showing an advantage for Bernie Sanders. Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, breaks it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below.

"The Rhode Island Board of Elections announced this week that two-thirds of the state’s polling places would remain closed for the upcoming primary as a costs savings measure.

According to WPRI, the Board of Elections plans to cut costs by opening only 144 of the state’s 419 polling places for the April 26 primary.”*

Read more here: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/rhode...

[Segami]

1. Cheating is right up the Clinton camp's alley....its their MO!

[CoffeeCat]

4. Nearly every primary and caucus had

issues this year. This was completely unprecedented.

So envious of the Republicans and their legitimate primaries and caucuses. Meanwhile, the Democrats are force to deal with one clusterfuck after another. Voter suppression. Bullhorns. Voters getting kicked off the rolls. Voters party-alliance switching. Caucus shenannigans. Not enough polling locations. Six hour lines. And all of the other stealing and antics that we'll never know about.

Unprecedented.

Goes with the Clinton territory.

[Baitball Blogger]

29. I'm going to have to give the Republicans an apology.

They're not the worst cheaters come election time, afterall,

[senz]

52. It's in their DNA. It's what they are.

[DURHAM D]

2. so predictable

and boring

[Buzz Clik]

10. You need a lot more than 29 seconds of that. Better yet, an infinite loop.

[Fairgo]

58. your herd instinct betrays you

You ready for the big cattle drive, little dogie?

[jwirr]

3. Would sure like to read the documents from the 33 State

Democratic Party deal. I also want to know which states were the 17 who refused to go along with the deal.

[CoffeeCat]

5. I'm afraid to ask, but

what 33 State Democratic Party deal?

I can only imagine!

[Segami]

7. This might shed some light

In August 2015, at the Democratic Party convention in Minneapolis, 33 democratic state parties made deals with the Hillary Clinton campaign and a joint fundraising entity called The Hillary Victory Fund. The deal allowed many of her core billionaire and inner circle individual donors to run the maximum amounts of money allowed through those state parties to the Hillary Victory Fund in New York and the DNC in Washington.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/01/how-hillary-clinton-bought-the-loyalty-of-33-state-democratic-parties/

[HooptieWagon]

22. Correct. But here's more detail....

There's a cap on donations to an individual candidate. $2700 primary, and $2700 GE. But there's a much higher amount allowed to be donated to State parties...IDK exact figure. What the Victory Fund does is solicit maximum limit donations to all the participating states, who then turn the money over to the DNC. The DNC then uses the money to indirectly help the Clinton campaign...providing office space, staffers, contact lists, loaning of equipment, etc. instead of restricting wealthy donors to a measly $2700, they can donate over $500,000 and have it laundered through the state parties and DNC before being used to aid the Clinton Campaign. It may be legal, though a few lawyer pundits have questioned so. Note that none of this is going to aid the Sanders Campaign, and Clinton supporters are hypocritically bashing Sanders for not raising money for State Parties which is directed to Clinton. SMH.

[aurelius2112]

37. ^^^^This is quite an eye opener for most objectively minded people^^^^

Except some of the HRC supporters here....... how sad to read about the rampant blindness in some of these posts.

Her entire campaign has bought the nomination and eventually the presidency.
(Isn't this what we normally say about the GOP? Raking in cash and paying everyone off?)

It doesn't surprise me that the Koch brothers are starting to warm up to Hillary.
We should be vigilant on whether or not the Kochs spend alot of money against her in the GE.
My guess....they won't spend much on her nemesis, since they know what they will get with her in office.

We need to fix this rigged system!
Uncapped donations, superdelegates, caucuses, 2 party platforms, lobbying groups, old voting machines controlled by 4 companies (mainly Warren Buffet), negative corporate tax rates, and I'll leave a few open for more people to chime in, if need be.....

NotHillary, NotTrump, but policy based politicians who stand for what the people want and need.
Bernie filled that position this cycle, who will continue this revolution? Warren? (yes please!)

I will openly ponder how to get HRC to step down in 2020 so the better politician can run the WH (Go Elizabeth!)

Flag on, HRC supporters with your blinders on, Flag on.....

Peace!

[puffy socks]

41. Sanders didnt even enter the race until mid 2015. He wasn't going to run, remember?

He is also an Independent and not a Democrat.

After years of berating Democrats he wants to use them to run a campaign. He's ever raised a cent for the party. But he sure doesn't mind using the power of the brand built by the Democrats, does he? Just has his hand out, uses their database, his staff abuses the privilege, lies about it and then his supporters try to blame the DNC and Clinton for it. The back stabbers.

Now it's hypocritical to expect him to raise money for the DNC?
Most people call that mooching or using people. It really takes a lot of nerve to make that statement. I cant believe they didn't show him the door after those shenanigans.
Today Sanders supporters want to take over the party like a bunch of Tea Party Patriots.
Go form your own party. Since Bernie's camp says they have such huge numbers that are "true Progressives" you ought easily be able to raise the funds needed band beat the Dems and Republicans handily.

[aurelius2112]

46. Game on!

You can have your "not so left" establishment pick ---- HRC
She will continue DC politics as usual as to not upset anyone with alot of money.
Glad you support the 1% lifestyle.....

We'll keep the true progressive!

Peace!

[HooptieWagon]

48. DLClintons hijacked the Party with Koch funding.

A large number of Democrats view Sanders' campaign as a hostage rescue.

[aurelius2112]

54. I'm glad I've been rescued from the establishment insanity

Big money, rigged system, establishment insistence on loving who they pick, brainwashed people who eat up the mass media hype --- no wonder no one thought Bernie had a chance.

But there was always a hidden card.....the people!

We must continue the revolution and keep up the progress.

Since Tea Party is already taken, maybe we can be the lemonade party? j/k lol

We cannot allow HRC to pander to the left and then reverse course in the GE and pander to the conservatives.
This will be what we get when she is in the WH.
Lip service for progressives and action for the Big money, as usual.

Nothing to see here Bernie-bots, just hold your nose and vote HRC, it will all be ok......there there.

I refuse to vote for the same type of ideological person as the GOP side.
Write in Bernie!

Peace out!

[jwirr]

8. Read: How Hillary Clinton Bought the Loyalty of 33 State

Democratic Parties.

[questionseverything]

18. coffee, read the exchange in this link between me and brook

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511777853

basically the inter party agreement changes the fundraising limit from 2750 to 12750 because the 10 grand a rich person donates to the dnc the dnc lets hc use

that's why the clooney fundraiser was such a big deal

[Faux pas]

6. Psst

I don't think they think we're paying attention. This is just how they roll. Pretty sad and revolting, for sure.

[Buzz Clik]

9. That's nice. Now, you run along and play with your friends.

You can tell us about cheating in Indiana next week.

[monmouth4]

11. If these incidents didn't occur I would imagine Bernie would be way ahead of her. I'm surprised

that as a supposed democrat, these incidents don't bother you..

[Buzz Clik]

15. I avoided standing in line by voting early.

Standing in long lines affects everyone exactly the same way. Everyone.

I'd be more upset if there was any merit whatsoever to the argument that this favors Hilary, but there is none.

You people scream bloody murder at every hiccup and blame Hillary every time.

Read this and you'll see why I just lost interest in everything you people say:

https://www.storyarts.org/library/aesops/stories/boy.html

[monmouth4]

17. You lost me at "you people." Have no interest in reading your link..n/t

[Buzz Clik]

20. What the fuck ever. Another poster on the brush heap.

[rickford66]

32. It's "What the fuck, over?" BTW

Get your sarcasm correct.

[Buzz Clik]

34. No. Not at all. And it wasn't sarcasm.

The "fuck" usage is a typical interjection of the f-bomb between two words in a common phrase simply for emphasis through obscenity.

Your usage undoubtedly has a place, but my phrasing was perfect for the occasion.

Oh -- good fucking bye.

[rickford66]

36. Well, fuck you too and the horse you rode in on.

[Buzz Clik]

39. My goodness. This conversation took an unfriendly turn.

[rickford66]

40. Well we should agree to both be fucking Democrats then.

[Buzz Clik]

44. Abso-fucking-lutely!

[Segami]

24. Heh,...'you people'.....maybe they should try Bernie's people!

?

[DebDoo]

25. I didn't have any problems, so why should I care? spoken like a republican

[Buzz Clik]

26. ... said the disruptor whose been here for two months.

See ya, Deb.

[kstewart33]

16. After so many conspiracies...

One or two, I thought about. But there have been at least 20 purported conspiracies on this forum since January and all favoring one candidate.

At that point, it's all unicorns and rainbows to me.

[kstewart33]

12. Another conspiracy.

And another, another, another.

Prediction: Indiana will be a conspiracy. In fact, every upcoming primary where Hillary ties Bernie or Bernie wins, there will be a conspiracy of some kind. Conspirators in every case: Democratic Party and/or Hillary.

I should buy a crystal ball.

[Orrex]

13. :eyes:

[LWolf]

14. Be careful what you wish for.

He nails this one.

[JaneyVee]

19. Umm...Bernie won RI.

[hack89]

21. As a Rhode Island voter I can say that this caused no major issues.

it received wide press coverage and people were prepared. The lines were not that long and everyone was able to vote.

And lets not forget that Bernie won.

[JudyM]

30. Would have won more delegates -- it's not just about who "wins"...

[hack89]

35. How? Everyone that wanted to vote was able to vote. nt

[JudyM]

38. There were reports of long lines (people often leave if they see this or get in line and can't stay)

plus reports of people being confused about where to vote because their polling places were changed, people showing up at the wrong location, etc... These add up.

[onenote]

57. Link for reports of long lines?

[NCTraveler]

23. Statistically, this would provide no advantage to Sanders, if it even hurt in the first place.

In 2008, when turnout was expected to be higher in RI, they opened 178 polling locations for the primary, not all 500+ they had available.

[pdsimdars]

27. Isn't it strange how the GOP goes for voter suppression on the Democratic voters

But the DEMOCRATS also target Democratic voters for voter suppression.
Further proof that the Democratic leadership is actually Republican.

[chillfactor]

28. oh get off it....

already....you bernie supporters are very poor losers.......get over yourselves already!

[JudyM]

31. I hope for your sake that ignorance is bliss.

[Beacool]

33. How would less polling locations benefit Hillary?

If less people got to vote, wouldn't it affect her too since less of her supporters could vote?

Besides, RI had 24 delegates at play on Tuesday, not exactly a high priority win for the Clinton camp.

[aurelius2112]

45. Well not exactly ...since she bought the superdelegates

Democratic Primary Results (99% reporting)
Bernie Sanders: 66,720 – 55.0%, 13 Delegates
Hillary Clinton: 52,493 – 43.3%, 20 (includes 9 superdelegates)

So HRC "won" RI since she bought the superdelegates.
Effed up system, wouldn't you say?

The person that wins the majority of the popular vote, loses over the establishment pick.

I guess the biggest thing I wonder about is how any HRC supporter cannot admit that her campaign has used Citizens United to the fullest benefit?

Of course I'll get flagged for "Bernie knew the system" blah blah...
The system is rigged from the beginning and now its the elephant in the room yet the HRC supporters want to endorse the current system instead of objectively analyzing it and proposing solutions for the next cycle.
All we get is .... "get over it poor losers..."
Oh boy

Its starting to sound like a political platform break is about to happen next cycle.
The "not so left" HRC establishment type supporters and the real progressives.
Baby Boomers v Millennials (I believe the millennials have you outnumbered already and it will only increase as time goes by)
Cage match!

Peace!

[Beacool]

47. She didn't buy anyone.

Why would super delegates support the man who only joined the party to use its resources when he decided to run for president? A man who ran 10 times against Democrats and resisted joining the party when asked in the past. Of course the vast majority of them would support the person who had been a Democratic first lady of both Arkansas and the nation. As well as a senator and SOS. Sanders was a self described "democratic socialist" until last summer.

The simple truth is that millions more Democrats have voted for Hillary than have voted for Sanders. THAT's why he's losing the nomination.

[aurelius2112]

53. and the system you support is rigged for your establishment pick

own up to it...... denial is not a flattering attribute

You might want to read the other posts here that will be quite contrary to your opinion of "not buying" the election.

From Segami:

In August 2015, at the Democratic Party convention in Minneapolis, 33 democratic state parties made deals with the Hillary Clinton campaign and a joint fundraising entity called The Hillary Victory Fund. The deal allowed many of her core billionaire and inner circle individual donors to run the maximum amounts of money allowed through those state parties to the Hillary Victory Fund in New York and the DNC in Washington.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/01/how-hillary-clinton-bought-the-loyalty-of-33-state-democratic-parties/

Your turn to oppose the facts....which is quite typical these days from establishment "progressives" (and I'll use that term very loosely here)

Let's vote for the same bs again! HRC gogogo!!!

Mikey will eat anything, even bs from HRC!

[AzDar]

42. Ayup. Shenanigans in just about every state...

[artislife]

43. This isn't even surprising anymore

but there are still people happy to vote for the establishment.

We are our own best jailers.

[senz]

49. "We are our own best jailers."

Eye-opening statement, artislife.

Would make a great book title. Or, for an artist who works with written words, colleges, etc., it could be powerful.

[senz]

50. Woo hoo! Look at the Hill replies. Guess THEY don't want our votes, either!

Okay.

[Joob]

51. So corrupt. "Why won't Bernie Supporters support Hillary!?" Uh. This. Among. Many other things.

[underthematrix]

55. Bernie supporters are in their feels right now so

we should expect to see a lot more posts like this over the next couple of months. There's nothing that can be done about it. It is what it is. I think we should respond but remember that the millions of voters who actually vote don't hang out at DU. This is an extremely teeny tiny part of the voting universe.

I'm more concerned about this http://atlantablackstar.com/2016/04/28/house-republicans-want-to-diminish-number-of-free-and-reduced-lunches-for-millions-of-low-income-students/ and what it would mean to millions of American children and families to have a NAZI in the White House plus the GOP terrorists in control of our Congress and our SCOTUS.

[onenote]

56. Anybody want some relevant context to this story?

For example, has anyone commented on the fact that there were only 33 fewer polling places open for the 2016 primary than for the 2008 primary (which is the relevant comparison, not to the number of polling places open for the GE).

And has anyone commenting on this story noted that this was not anything new: that for many years Rhode Island has opened fewer polls for primary day than it opens for general election as a cost savings measure and because primary turnout is historically lower than general election turnout and thus reducing the number of polling places does not generally cause delays in voting?

Seems like relevant context.