2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo, Everyone claims that Hillary is to the left or running to the left of President Obama's policies
Just one story here- , you hear it from talking heads almost every night as well-
http://www.cbsnews.com/media/where-has-hillary-clinton-broken-with-obama/
So do people here not believe that is true, or are you just moving further far left with age? Given that virtually EVERY Sanders supporter that replied to this thread said they voted for Obama- over 140 replies-
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511813508
People don't like Obama now and even though Hillary is essentially to the left of his policies still not good enough? Or is the troll percentage higher than I am guessing?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Hillary and Obama are together on this issue, she says she will stay with Obama's EO on gun issues.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...except for one point (and Bernie's correct on that one).
djean111
(14,255 posts)increased H-1B visas and means-testing Social Security and cluster bombs and increased restrictions on abortions, and is against single payer. These are things Hillary is FOR. And she is quite up front about staying that way.
Has nothing to do with Obama. It has to do with the future. No amount of arranging and rearranging Hillary and Obama on some mythical political chessboard will change the fact that I will not vote for a candidate who is for the things that Hillary stands for.
Why is that so hard to understand? Do you think I am going to say oh, war? Not so bad, after all, because Hillary supposedly is to the left of Obama? That is ridiculous.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)But, posting it will piss folks off.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Granted, I don't want you banned for it but we should not shy away from controversial viewpoints. At least from my chair, a controversial subject can be discussed without violating TOS.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)And she shouldn't. He's been a great president and is a rock star to most Democrats:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval_among_democrats-1046.html
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)"Now, she is not so sure about TPP." Only an idiot would believe her given her lengthy record of supporting globalism.
"Do more to help undocumented immigrants." Pretending Congress will authorize the funds (they won't), I have no doubt she would do this. Unless she can trade it away for something closer to her heart ... like getting votes for the TPP.
"Repeal the Cadillac Tax." Since when is a regressive tax to the left of a progressive tax? Claiming this is to the left is somewhat idiotic.
"More war in Syria." Since when is more war to the left of less war? They just raised the bar for most idiotic claim in this thread. Possibly in this entire primary. Hey, Drumpf, you've got competition!
"More renewable energy." Congratulations. They are not 100% idiotic. Dumpf can feel safer now.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)That would imply leadership, and Clinton is mostly a follower.