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Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:32 PM

Hillary campaign staffer asked me what do Bernie or Bust types need...

This person knows I work on the Sanders campaign, locally.

This person has read and heard over and over about how Bernie or Bust types need to be given a reason to vote for Hillary, which this person assumes means they need something from Hillary as in promises for their own needs.

My friend and I are the types who never vote for our own personal needs but the needs of those with less power than us, or those targeted to HAVE less than us, so we are not used to how to handle this.

i told her I would ask.

What exactly does Hillary have to promise YOU, for YOU, so she can have your vote?

I know Bernie has never promised ME a god damn thing, I have healthcare, dont need a higher education, so my support of Bernie has always been about what his agenda can do for others.

So again, what does Hillary have to promise YOU?

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Reply Hillary campaign staffer asked me what do Bernie or Bust types need... (Original post)
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 OP
Lil Missy Apr 2016 #1
Wilms Apr 2016 #2
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #5
Wilms Apr 2016 #49
notadmblnd Apr 2016 #18
Baobab Apr 2016 #57
peace13 Apr 2016 #3
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #6
Baobab Apr 2016 #64
Baobab Apr 2016 #58
peace13 Apr 2016 #61
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #4
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #7
bigwillq Apr 2016 #8
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #9
Voice for Peace Apr 2016 #56
BlindTiresias Apr 2016 #62
sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #10
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #11
riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #12
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #13
riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #19
99Forever Apr 2016 #14
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #17
99Forever Apr 2016 #29
99Forever Apr 2016 #43
kcjohn1 Apr 2016 #15
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #21
kcjohn1 Apr 2016 #31
hellofromreddit Apr 2016 #16
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #22
morningfog Apr 2016 #74
Ron Green Apr 2016 #20
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #24
Rockyj Apr 2016 #23
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #26
snooper2 Apr 2016 #91
tokenlib Apr 2016 #25
Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #27
JudyM Apr 2016 #71
noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #28
99Forever Apr 2016 #38
cui bono Apr 2016 #90
_progressive Apr 2016 #52
snooper2 Apr 2016 #92
2banon Apr 2016 #30
Separation Apr 2016 #32
HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #33
Skwmom Apr 2016 #34
Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #35
democrank Apr 2016 #36
asuhornets Apr 2016 #37
Baobab Apr 2016 #66
asuhornets Apr 2016 #68
Baobab Apr 2016 #69
asuhornets Apr 2016 #70
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Separation Apr 2016 #89
katsy Apr 2016 #39
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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:38 PM

1. This should be good. n/t

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:38 PM

2. A unicorn.

 

That's what has been said. Right?

Why are you asking us NOW??? Need something? She should have thought about that a LONG time ago. But she decided which side she's on.

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Response to Wilms (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:41 PM

5. So your answer is you want stuff for yourself, but you dont trust her to give it to you.

OK, I will relay that.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:38 PM

49. What's with "stuff"???

 

I thought it was a unicorn. That's why I wrote U N I C O R N.

Why are the narratives changing all the time???

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Response to Wilms (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:50 PM

18. I don't want just any old unicorn. I want a unicorn that farts glitter.

Isn't that what HRC supporters say Bernie promised us?

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Response to Wilms (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:17 PM

57. The crooks and cronies and warmongers need to be evicted from the temple

of government

never to return.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:39 PM

3. For myself...get rid of black box voting!

 

Like you, I ask for single payer health care and education for others. The deal breaker is, how can I trust her?

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Response to peace13 (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:41 PM

6. Not sure how we can trust her, but your request is a good one, I will pass it on.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:40 PM

64. please read the paper in my .sig

note when the global deal it talks about was being put together


which also potentially trades a lot of good paying largely public sector US jobs away for pie in the sky, corporate rights to open factories and branches in developing countries.

Its just crazy.

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Response to peace13 (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:22 PM

58. You absolutely can't

Also, voting is overrated when trade deals have systematically taken everything important off the table.

Read the paper in my .sig for example, the last 20 years of dysfunctional health care has been a lie.

a phony crisis that didnt have to happen because we already pay 2/3 of every health care dollar so we likely could have single payer right now for free.

The more you lie the more you have to lie more. Read Hannah Arendt, the Origins of Totalitarianism, about the onion skinned nature of totalitarian regimes.

Search for onion. Its on the web.

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Response to Baobab (Reply #58)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:31 PM

61. Thanks for this.

 

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:40 PM

4. Unrealistic promises. All of them.

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:42 PM

7. What promises?

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:42 PM

8. Nothing.

 

I don't like her, never will. It's not so much here personally, I just think the Clintons represent everything that's wrong with party politics.
I am not Bernie or Bust. Yes, I voted for Bernie, but I never expected him to win the nomination. I would have probably voted for just about anyone running against Hillary in the primary.
I just would rather have someone that's more Bernie's vision than Hillary's.

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Response to bigwillq (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:43 PM

9. So you dont want anything personally. I will tell my friend. Sounds like you are going

to vote for whoever the Dem is as you are not suicidal.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:14 PM

56. One doesn't become honest in order to get votes

 

so... not gonna be getting mine. The crazy unrealistic young folks have inspired me. Clintons lack integrity, period.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:32 PM

62. Really good PR

Your response does not at all appear condescending or creepily authoritarian at all and will surely win over the hearts and minds of many people who support Bernie or are otherwise on the fence. Great job!

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:44 PM

10. I don't know how you can reverse her problem with trust.

When 56-60% don't trust her, then any kind of
promise now is useless.

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Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:45 PM

11. So you do want something, for yourself, but you dont trust her to get it for you.

I will relay your feelings.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:46 PM

12. Bernie has promised you a fight for climate change action

 

That you don't recognize it or acknowledge it is obvious.

Hillary would need to promise to make saving the planet her biggest priority on every front.

That would mean becoming an international fierce advocate on day 1. Ban fracking. Stop the TPP cold. Stand up to the oligarchs whose greed has polluted the earth and destroyed communities' natural resources around the world (this is where Bernie’s speech about corruption and too big to fail banks comes in) etc etc etc

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:48 PM

13. Me? Oh, no that is bullshit. I know more about it and recognize it than many. No, stop talking

about me.

This is about what YOU want.

I will relay your feelings.

Your attacks of me are a waste of time, I am very thick skinned, being a liberal makes you that way.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:50 PM

19. Uh, your OP specifically says Bernie has never promised YOU anything

 

He has.

Many things. Your failure to recognize them is on you.



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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:49 PM

14. Her "promises" have no credibility.

She is a lying liar that will say and do anything to satisfy her egotistical, insatiable need to "win." I don't believe a word she says.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:49 PM

17. Understood, you want something for YOU and dont trust her.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:57 PM

29. That's the problem with assuming things.

More often than not, you are wrong.

I want what Bernie Sanders ran on. ALL OF IT. Not for me, for my son and daughter, and my grandchildren.


NONE of which means jack to the likes of the Clintons.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #29)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:15 PM

43. *crickets*

The one trick pony is no where to be found.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:49 PM

15. Confession and Repentance

Although Clinton is not the only politician corrupted by the system, but she is the Exhibit A of what is rotten in our system.

Her admitting this fact, her role, and what she is going to do about it PUBLICLY is the only thing that might even make me voting for her.

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Response to kcjohn1 (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:50 PM

21. Love this answer, I do. You want her to do what NO POLITICIAN IN HISTORY HAS DONE

OR WILL DO

otherwise you wont vote for her.

Got it

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:58 PM

31. Hillary keeps saying anyone can diagnose the problem

But has she even acknowledged the Congress is owned and bought by special interests? All I heard during the primary season is how no one can proof quid pro quo in her case when she takes money from special interests.

Bernie says what 99% of the people already know as fact. Our politicians don't work for us, they work for those who fund their campaigns. Even if she doesn't include herself in that category, why can't she say that?

You can tell those politicians who are owned by special interests because you will never hear them make that statement.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:49 PM

16. No death penalty, Single Payer, abandon CTR, drug legalization, no preemptive wars or invasions

 

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Response to hellofromreddit (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:51 PM

22. Thanks...

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Response to hellofromreddit (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:14 AM

74. That's a good list. I'll add no regime change as foreign policy,

 

aggressive action on climate change, free college tuition.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:50 PM

20. I want her to embrace and PROMOTE Bernie Sanders' climate plan.

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Response to Ron Green (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:51 PM

24. Thanks

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:51 PM

23. There is nothing Hillary can do or promiss to win my support...

...Hillary and her campaign blew that months ago! She lost many of us, think of all the thousands of Independents that weren't allowed to vote in New York & elsewhere, voter suppression in Arizona & elsewhere & all the thousands of people that showed up at Bernie's rallies! In addition, the millennials aren't stupid and they don't like being told to support her. They see through her like many of us Baby Boomers.

She will lose & the Democratic Party will lose against the GOP because they support Neo-liberalism and our current Oligarchy.

PLUS your right! Its not about us its about our kids & grandkids and the world we are leaving them.

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Response to Rockyj (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:51 PM

26. GOt it, you need for YOU and you dont trust her to take care of YOU.

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Response to Rockyj (Reply #23)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:06 PM

91. you should probably just tune out of politics then and go back to watching

 

The housewives of whatever fucking city they are in at the moment

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:51 PM

25. Confess to linkage between State Dept approval of arms sales and..

..Clinton Foundation donations....

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Response to tokenlib (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:52 PM

27. Translation, have her do what NO politician in HISTORY has done or else

Got it

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Response to tokenlib (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:30 PM

71. Ooowee! That issue is huge for me too. A confession doesn't begin to cover it, though.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:56 PM

28. Why do you always try to insult people?

I keep seeing your threads each day badgering Bernie supporters. Each day your posts get nastier. Why do you keep trying to insult people and try to twist their words to suit your narrative?

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Response to noretreatnosurrender (Reply #28)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:03 PM

38. That's what Hillary and her ilk do.

And then they think we will "fall in line."

Hope they feel the same way as they watch tRump being sworn in.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #38)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:01 PM

90. But this one just told me s/he's a Bernie supporter!

mmkay...



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Response to noretreatnosurrender (Reply #28)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:50 PM

52. have you seen this

http://freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-backer-nomiki-konst-clinton-supporting-correct-record-spent-1-million-internet-trolls/

the spin they are unleashing after NY is insane, in reality the primary is a toss up still.

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Response to noretreatnosurrender (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:07 PM

92. damn, pretty good job!

 

Member since: Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:04 AM
Number of posts: 1,868
Number of posts, last 90 days: 1868

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:58 PM

30. Hello People. This is not a serious question just in case you didn't get that.

 

the I'm certain was intended but forgotten.

this is a silly game which should be obvious to everyone.

but.. i guess not so much. apparently.



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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:59 PM

32. I appreciate this type of dialog

For me, it would be for her to take a stance on marijuana, whether medicinal or recreational. As a disabled person in my state I HAVE to take morphine, hydromorphone, and a slew of other medications that will probably kill me. I know for a fact that marijuana helps alleviate my pain so that I can have a quality of life without being hooked on opioids.

I'd also like to hear her say that she plans on making a change in the for profit prison systems being run in this country. The US is a laughing stock when it comes to the prison system. What sounds better, try to rehabilitate, train a prisoner skills that he can use on the outside to become a productive member of society, or lock them up for 5-10 years and then then let them back into your and mine community?

I have a few others, but these two were on the top of my mind and I think are a good start. Thank you.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:59 PM

33. Promise me?...

 

Since we are talking at a personal level, for me personally, for her to connect with me on a very singular deep level?

You know what you're asking is something she's shown she's not been capable of to date...

So here goes, She needs to promise me she will open up town hall events every month or every other month that's televised and an audience that's NOT screened and with questions not vetted prior, and taking at least two hours to answer as many questions within that allotted time

I want the public to be able to QA her and make her and her policies accessible to the public, if she want's us 'with her' she needs to show us she's with us...

She needs to close that unfavorable gap with a HUGE action on her part

Consider this the modern age 'fireside chats' with conversation and feedback, that's the promise I'd like to see her accept

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:01 PM

34. This reminds me of a guy who was on one fo the shows saying maybe they should have given


workers who lost their jobs because they were shipped overseas $10,000 and something else I can't recall. Do they really think people are that stupid?

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:02 PM

35. Restoring confidence in the voting process would be a good place to start

I'm not sure what power the President or the US COngress has....since I think the constitution leaves the decision on how to run elections to the states, but agree with sentiment expressed here that we have to assure a fair and democratic vote

I'm a Hillary person who listens...so I'm not who you directed the question to but I'll offer it as a humble suggestion

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:03 PM

36. Maybe Hillary could ask her friend David Brock

how she can win friends and influence people. Brock has a wonderfully warm style.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:03 PM

37. Hillary Clinton has promised me

that she has the experience to take this country forward by making sure the remaining 29million will get the health insurance they have a right to. She has promised me with her wealth of foreign policy experience, she will make sure war is the last option and diplomacy is first. She has promised me that racial discrimination still exists and she will put policies in place to make sure all have a fair shot to better our lives. She has promised me she will build on President Obama's policies. She has promised me that will work her heart out for other Democrats. She has promised me the economy will be the first thing she fix and increase the minimum.

And the list goes on and on.

GOHILLARY!!!

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #37)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:59 PM

66. Reality Check here

Its all BS.

>that she has the experience to take this country forward by making sure the remaining 29million will get the health insurance.

Not only is that total bullshit, her policy when expressed in private is setting up a global trade in exchange for the prvatizations overseas that is going to give them US jobs, overwhelmingly in the PUBLIC SECTOR. Virtually the entire public sector is up for grabs and the jobs will be won in global procurement systems by the lowest qualified bidders firms internationally.

> they have a right to.

You're dreaming if you think there are any rights to health care, quite the opposite, the US has been fighting tooth and nail - against it- creating new permanent, irrevocable new property rights for corporations to PREVENT public health care and education.

Not only has the 1995 trade deal pushed by the Clintons and its successor deals like TISA- constitute a literal war on public services- and afordability, framing it as a theft from corporations of their markets - the single largest barrier in the entire world to public health care - that also applies to education and they are waging a global war on public education, forcing countries to privatize by means of these trade deals that one needs to understand are an attack on the future - a future where technology is improving and the job as we know it today is vanishing at an exponentially increasing rate.


>She has promised me with her wealth of foreign policy experience,

Is this a joke, or satirical?

>she will make sure war is the last option and diplomacy is first.

thats BS because if anything shes been doing the exact opposite-


>She has promised me that racial discrimination still exists and she will put policies in place to make sure all have a fair shot to better our lives.

Right, she's putting policies in place that will give foreign corporations an equal chance to win newly privatized US public sector jobs - with those jobs going to the lowest qualified bidder thats what GATS and tiSA do, to increase corporate profits.

You need to understand that when narcisists tell you they are giving you a present, its always the exact opposite, a Trojan Horse. And the GATS deal with its claims that "progressive liberalisation" will reduce the gaps between the rich and poor countries is like el dorado being waved in front of the poor countries, but its a false riches because in 20 years were really really going to need public health care. in the 20 years of GATS at least a million Amercans have lost their lives unnecessarily because of being denied health care when we were already paying enough to get healthcare to give it to everybody for free- But they had to have a phony crisis to sell the deal- so they made health care do everything they knew woudnt work - which of course was compliant with ther extremist ideology.



>She has promised me she will build on President Obama's policies. She has promised me that will work her heart out for other Democrats. She has promised me the economy will be the first thing she fix and increase the minimum.

And the list goes on and on.

GOHILLARY!!!


Its al total BS. She worked behind the scenes to deny a small increase in minimum wage in haiti. She helped legitimize a coup which overthrew the government of Hnduras after the elected president just suggested a national poll on whether increasing the minimum wage was possible.

Read the paper in my sig.

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Response to Baobab (Reply #66)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:14 PM

68. I believe her...

And she is positive, according to Sanders the world is just in a disarray or bout to end or somthin'. I prefer the uplifting candidate.

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #68)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:25 PM

69. thats bizarre, because Bernie is the one who is much more positive

Hillary is the austerity candidate who wants to trade away Americans jobs for higher corporate profits by means of the horrible deal GATS which has already destroyed literally a third of many US families equity. the cost per person on health care alone will probably be a half million dollars per capita.

Also, those jobs that are being traded away are basically the jobs of future young people and current civil servants and quasi cvil servants like teachers and nurses who have been kept in limbo for decades while these Mode Four type deals have been being set up.

And the countries they've been waving them in front of are tired of waiting.

What is Mode Four?

http://www.slideshare.net/GitanjaliMaria/four-modes-of-wto



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Response to Baobab (Reply #69)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:30 PM

70. Bernie Sanders seems to mad all the time

Even at his rallys-he smiles-seldomly-never laughs. We're all doom according to him-unless we accept his platform with out compromise.

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #37)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:05 AM

81. Um, no.

Hillary Clinton has promised me that she has the experience to take this country forward by making sure the remaining 29million will get the health insurance they have a right to.


In the first place, that's not a promise - that's your expectation. And in the second place, she hasn't even provided you with a plan for making sure the remaining 29 million will get the health insurance they have a right to. However, she did attack Bernie Sanders' plan for it when he presented one, using Republican talking points (More taxes! Eek! Not going to mention the elimination of private insurance costs!)

"I'll expand the ACA" is not a plan. It's a vague generality. Plans for universal health care involve saying who will be covered, how they will be covered, and how it will be funded, as his single-payer health care plan did.

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #37)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:33 PM

89. I'm going to go out on a limb here for shock value

If so it'll be my first hide.

If anything she and her husband are just as complicit as 19th century slave owners. Her complicity and willingness to take money from the for profit prison system has crippled generations of POC lives and families lives. This is nothing more than a 21st century war against civil rights.

But then again, I will vote for her in the general election. I'm not sure what that says about me anymore though.


She has promised me that racial discrimination still exists and she will put policies in place to make

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:06 PM

39. I want her to release the speech transcripts

and deal with any potential fallout now before the GE.

I want her to speak truthfully and work for the common good not corporate good.


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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:09 PM

40. The problem with this question is the trust issue.

 

We all can see that she will say anything, making the question kind of pointless.

There are few things we can predict with any confidence if she wins. I'd welcome any suggestions.

There are however, a few things we can predict if she loses:
DWS - fired.
Reform in the party.
A sense of purpose - putting the underground back in DU.
Big midterm congressional wins.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:12 PM

41. We need to not have another dynasty (Clinton) in the WH. We need a honest person who cares

and understands the average American because they lived it themselves....that's what we want. Integrity, honesty, truthfulness (we will never get from her) and Medicare for All, Glass Segel (sp?), Wall Street reigned in and stop gambling with the tax payers monies, a cap lifted off SS. Elite stop getting to hide their money offshore or even in a strange address up North..I could go on if you want.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:13 PM

42. Here are 5 things, Jackie Wilson Said:

1) Not support the PATRIOT act and similar provisions which invade Americans' personal privacy; reverse position on making encryption illegal (do I have to dig up the clip from December 2015 where she mocks free speech advocates...?)

2) Disavow David Brock, Peter Daou; do not seek super PAC contributions from the financial industry, the oil industry or ANY registered lobbyists (the Obama pledge from 2008) and follow campaign finance coordination rules wrt super PACs (notice I'm not a purist, I am not asking her to disavow super PACs altogether; doing what I propose would make me comfortable with her stance on this issue)

3) Promise that Sid Blumenthal, Kagan, or Gates will never be involved in her foreign policy team, as staffers or as advisors.

4) Oppose the death penalty.

5) Support Bernie's climate change bill.

None of these should be too difficult if she is truly a progressive, nor should they compromise her ability to win a general election.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:19 PM

44. You don't work on the Sanders campaign.

 

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Response to Marr (Reply #44)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:26 PM

46. Bingo

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:26 PM

45. That she adopt all of Bernie's policy positions, then wear a shock collar that would ...

 

... give her a fatal jolt if she reneged on even the smallest one.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #45)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:33 PM

73. Shock collar!

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:29 PM

47. No fracking and stop the damn lies in Indiana about Bernie dropping out.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:37 PM

48. Not to change Social Security

To do more not less for the environment and absolutely not to deregulate stuff!

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:45 PM

50. I'm sorry, but I no longer offer opinions here to her campaign. She seems to have it all

 

very well under control. If you'd like to peruse any of the dozens and dozens of posts where we tried to explain it to them you are welcome to do that. They are well-catalogued at DU. I'm in general election mode now. Unity! Let's go get them!

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:48 PM

51. Sit down and watch one rally speech and take notes!

I mean it. Anyone asking that question needs to watch/listen to one rally speech and take notes and then give you the answer.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:50 PM

53. I've seen how she treats people that don't serve her.

I simply don't like Hillary anymore.

Yes, I once did.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:50 PM

54. A _____________and a _____ ___

 

nt.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:52 PM

55. Hillary.promise.YOU - Now there's the problem.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:23 PM

59. Cool story bro. nt.

 

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:28 PM

60. Her resignation and disappearance from the media

 

Without any explanation.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:44 PM

65. The choose Bernie as her running mate and resign immediately.

 


In short, there is nothing Hillary can say or do to earn my vote.

Her record is abysmal and I have no faith in her ability to even attempt to keep a promise.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:00 PM

67. I want the transcripts. NT

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:31 PM

72. Oh I can answer that just by reading the subject ...

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:24 AM

75. She needs to reincarnate everyone killed in Iraq since 2003.

 

Then she will get my vote.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:31 AM

76. Trust has to be earned and I don't trust HRC or Third Way to do

the right things.

Dropping out of race and putting Sanders or Warren in her place would be only thing zip can think of.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:34 AM

77. I would imagine that many would

ask Hillary to leave the race.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:36 AM

78. Hillary does not need to promise me anything...

 

...she needs to be a democrat and promise to help those that need help, give to those who need giving to and embrace all people of all types and kinds.....

I too need nothing from her. I have a good job, healthcare and freedom. Hillary threatens that freedom - but I am tough and can fight. Rather Hillary needs to embrace others and care for them. She needs to understand what poverty really is...what prejudice really is...what all women choosing abortion face and how horrible to be judged by her it is.

Again I need nothing from her - but honesty.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:43 AM

79. Let's Start with Something Easy. Let's Start with Consistency.

I understand that the operative word is changing one's mind, however, as President that just does not cut it.

She wishes to lead, but in general, she merely follows what is popular or makes a calculation on what would make her look good.
In essence, she changes her position, story, even her accent, dependent on where she is, who she's talking to, and the crowd's position.

She went from Moderate to Progressive, to not even bothering with the pretense of being a Progressive, where to me it all came to a head on the NY debate.

In the NY debate, she debated like a Republican War Hawk. Starting off with 9/11, the insistence of the "I did this", and in other debates, changing her position within the hour.

It really makes me question her grasp on policy, history and everything else at best, some would just call her a liar/panderer outright.

So, start with consistency. Figure out exactly what her bottom line is. Figure out, what is it exactly that she wants to be able to do as President if she can actually get things done. Figure out the best possible outcome, and negotiate from there, stick with it.

I mean, she changes her mind so much that some would question her decision making abilities, as she's been wrong in so many issues.

So, start there.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:57 AM

80. You came here in January.

 

What I want is the list of why

you are a "Bernie Supporter" and what his candidacy meant for you. What will be disappointing, what you can come to grips with losing.

Where you saw him in person, when he first stirred your admiration.

Because since January, you have been pretty apologetic for hills. And I haven't read more than a cursory word of support.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:56 AM

82. Transcripts.

 

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:59 AM

83. I want her to lead on cannabis law reform/ending the drug war and protecting the bill of rights.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #83)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:18 AM

85. AND reparations for mass incarceration via a new Clinton Foundation if not the gov't.

I would also hope to see an admission of complicity for the 21st century scourge of slavery, and a restoration of the welfare safety net.
If she said she broke it and knows how to fix it, I might be able to believe she cares.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:13 AM

84. Please be referred to my earlier post on this topic - which was instantly derided by Hill-Bullies:

 

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:23 AM

86. She needs to promise to get out of the race for the good of the country. eom

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:38 AM

87. retire from poltics

And denounce the influence peddling and corporate cash grabbing she and her husband brought to the Democratic Party.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 08:57 AM

88. To take climate change seriously, for once.

That is, stop taking from Wall St and start taking on Wall St.

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