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northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 04:21 AM Apr 2016

As a 100% real Bernie voter, where is why I will be supporting Hillary.

When I started paying attention to this election I tried to dismiss reports of Bernie Bros and the data theft from the Hillary database since I believed in Bernie. As time wen on and the Bernie people screamed "English only" at the Nevada caucus I just chalked that up to a few bad apples. I listened to the stories about him supposedly working on civil rights in his early years, but those turned out to be false. Then as it was clear that the southern vote was being dismissed along racial lines I started getting a bit upset that more was not being said by Bernie supporters for apologizing. The election dragged on and Bernie won the white areas up north, but I figured he would get some more minority groups once they heard his story. I ignored the stories about voter irregularities since it seemed we still had some sour grapes in our party. When we hit NY and Hillary made a few minor statements about Bernie, but then he said she was not qualified I started to think he may be untrustworthy. He then left for vacation in the Vatican and did not really see the pope. From that point I took a look at the two and realized that Hillary and Bernie were almost identical in policies. I started to see that while Bernie could get some cash from some people to promise free stuff, only Hillary seemed to care about minorities and even the Jewish communities overseas. I still loved Bernie though and I am a hardcore socialist. That is when I saw this video of him speaking...

Video: https://goo.gl/SsAhv

And that is what changed my mind. Trust me, as a 100% real Bernie supporter that has always followed him, this video made me realize that he is too much of a pro war person to be a real socialist. Don't go calling me a liar, and popping off about my views if you are a Bernie supporter until you have watched the video and see where I am coming from.

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As a 100% real Bernie voter, where is why I will be supporting Hillary. (Original Post) northernsouthern Apr 2016 OP
Nothing remotely 'false' about elleng Apr 2016 #1
Never seen that video, this changes everything.. Joob Apr 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Live and Learn Apr 2016 #3
Don't judge my honest views... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #5
Ugh & lol I'll just delete my post now. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #11
Well done! TM99 Apr 2016 #4
You let him down. What made you give him up? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #6
We all make promises that we may have to break. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #7
You are correct, thats a very convincing video. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #8
*snicker* nolawarlock Apr 2016 #9
Gall dern it...now I'm voting for TRUMP...what a video! angstlessk Apr 2016 #10
... LostOne4Ever Apr 2016 #12
I have to say your post is one of the best counter arguments that I have read. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Live and Learn Apr 2016 #16
Haven't seen that video in far too long. Thanks for the post eom mikehiggins Apr 2016 #13
Wtf? Really? A Rick Roll post? aikoaiko Apr 2016 #15
I was just being honest. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #17
Best video of the day. byyiminy Apr 2016 #18

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northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
7. We all make promises that we may have to break.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 04:46 AM
Apr 2016

You are right though I did say I never would. I was thinking of a full commitment for supporting him to the general election. I can't if he doesn't get the votes, you know those are the rules and so do I.

LostOne4Ever

(9,290 posts)
12. ...
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:18 AM
Apr 2016

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]Northernsouther I can't believe you believe all that.
Even the most causual of Sanders supports knows all those things are false.
Verify these things before posting.
Education is key in politics after all.
Rewatch your video and you can see for yourself!

Gods, the mis-info in this forum just gets worse.
Obviously, he was talking about the troops not war.
No-one wants the troops to get hurt.
Not even the most cynical of pacifists.
All we want is peace afterall.

Granted, this doesn't mean there aren't things worth fighting for.
I would fight for my family if need be.
Voting for Clinton, however, isn't the way.
Every good liberal knows this.

You got to fight for peace if you want it.
Otherwise, we are complicit.
Ugggh, this is so infuriating!!!

Unfortunately, too many people fall for this kind of propaganda.
People need to stop being so gullible.

No other Politician is like Bernie though.
Even Warren doesn't compare.
Vote for the Bern if you want real change!
Eventually, the revolution will come!
Right?

Great change takes great effort afterall.
Otherwise, we be living in a perfect world already.
Night always give way to the dawn of progressive change.
Nihilistic cynicism eventually must give way to hope.
And Hillary is the cynics choice!

Liberal values have to be fought for.
Environmental ethics have to be embraced by everyone.
Trump will destroy those things if we don't elect Sanders!

Years and years of progress down the tubes.
Offensive policy after policy enacted.
Unions will be a thing of the past.

Don't let that happen.
Open your eyes! Bernie can stop him!
We all have to unite behind the Bern!
Now or never![/font]

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
14. I have to say your post is one of the best counter arguments that I have read.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 06:14 AM
Apr 2016

I am still sticking to my decision for now, but I have to say there was a certain amount of a hidden brilliance to your wording. I give you credit for making me think.

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northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
17. I was just being honest.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:26 AM
Apr 2016

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This video was what changed it all for me, the straw on the back that made me give up, even though I thought I never would.

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