When a web forum's members are overwhelmingly for Sanders, but the posts are about 50-50

[Cheese Sandwich]

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or even slanted toward Clinton...

How to explain that? What accounts for that?

Do Hillary supporters just post 5 times as much for some reason?

[floriduck]

1. Or maybe some of that $1million dollars from Clinton's campaign is at work here. nm

[moriah]

54. As much as I wish I had a milion dollars...

.. and yes, would still eat Kraft dinner...

If you do the math on how many people that could pay, it's an awfully small budget for a massive troll brigade.

[Zorra]

2. It could be a sudden mass influx of new Hillary supporters joining DU.

Maybe it's a movement!

[Autumn]

14. It's a movement allright

[Zorra]

19. ...

[Agschmid]

62. Here the new registration page... Still very pro sanders.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=firstposts

[JaneyVee]

3. Yes, 50% pro-Bernie, 50% anti-Hillary.

[Codeine]

4. Nice!

[sufrommich]

9. ....

[NurseJackie]

11. I absolutely adore you!

[all american girl]

42. Miss Fisher!!!!!!

[Beacool]

43. I love that show!!!

[LexVegas]

16. Win. Close the thread. nt

[Adrahil]

22. HA! It sure looks close to that to me! NT

[nolawarlock]

29. *snickersnort*

Now there's some poll numbers we can trust!

[ismnotwasm]

35. Yup.

[Bobbie Jo]

38. Bam.

Done here.

[obamanut2012]

40. hahahahaha

[betsuni]

44. BOOM! Good one.

[JTFrog]

57. Oh snap. n/t

[onehandle]

5. What a load of crap. nt

[Cheese Sandwich]

32. ..

[OilemFirchen]

6. Another #AssPulledStatistic

Can you show us your work?

[Agschmid]

63. Nope.

[BootinUp]

7. Maybe we should show our check stubs

they are printed on very pretty paper.



Because it couldn't be explained by the fact that the primary is essentially over.

[sufrommich]

8. Show your work. nt

[azurnoir]

10. I must ask why are so very many new Hillary supporters some even showing their transparency page

after less than a month, but yet are still active members however very few new Bernie supporters make it past their first hide if they even get that far?

[Hiraeth]

12. you noticed that, too. interesting, idn't it.

[azurnoir]

13. yep I noticed

but ya could say I have 'inside' info too

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10135783

[Hiraeth]

18. bless you, my child

you must have the patience of a saint

congrats!!

[azurnoir]

27. well it helps if

A you have a really weird sense of 'humor'

and

B you smoke a lot of well something

sort of

[Agschmid]

64. You have inside information and you at still totally making it up.

[Autumn]

21. When you consider the ones who have been flagged

forever that are obviously posting here under new names it gets clear.

[snooper2]

36. for every hillary supporter you can name I can give you four new bernie bots

Want to have a go at it?

[JTFrog]

58. I can't believe I'm agreeing with a post of yours, but you speak the truth here. n/t

[Bluenorthwest]

48. That's called 'Papering the House', it's suspension of attendance rules to enhance the

appearance of popularity. Very old trick from a very old book.

[vintx]

60. Dirty trick and lies. Her entire candidacy's foundation.

[72DejaVu]

53. Um. just a guess

She's winning?

[Bleacher Creature]

15. This is a forum for Democrats. It's actually in the name of the site.

People who have voted in Democratic primaries have solidly gone in Hillary's direction, and when you isolate the numbers to actual Democrats, it's overwhelming.

Putting aside the questionable numbers, I'm not sure when anyone should be surprised that there's still a lot of Clinton support here.

[azurnoir]

24. so people that voted for Bernie are not Democrats I take it?

[Tarc]

17. Is there actual data to support "but the posts are about 50-50" ?

[NurseJackie]

30. If there was, it would come from someone with 1200 Bernie fans on their "ignore list".

[Agschmid]

65. There isn't.

[kgnu_fan]

20. They are paid. It's a job.

[Adrahil]

25. Please make sure my check gets to me...

I seem to not be getting them.

[Downwinder]

34. Try here:

http://correctrecord.org/contact/

[NCTraveler]

23. Is this the outfit you went with in your research?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251650529

[HooptieWagon]

26. Maybe they're posting from 'work'.

[LanternWaste]

28. Can you provide the objective source for the 50/50 allegation?

Can you provide the objective source for the 50/50 allegation?

[athena]

31. Where did you get the 50-50 figure?

You can't just pull numbers out of the air based on your impressions. You have to actually do an unbiased analysis. You have to count every single post that was published in a given time frame, and categorize each post as pro-Bernie, pro-Hillary, or neutral. And you have to do this with enough posts and over a long enough time period to make sure your sample is statistically significant and representative of the overall trend. Ideally, you wouldn't do the measurement yourself but have an unbiased apolitical party do it to make sure you weren't biasing the results.

Quantitative analysis is hard. It's extremely difficult to remove bias from one's results, even when one is looking at something apparently impersonal like elementary particles. With something like politics, it's even more difficult.

[msongs]

33. so exactly how many posts are for each candidate according to your investigation? just curious

[Andy823]

37. You need to

Change the cheese in your sandwich, it's getting rather moldy and smelly!

[Orsino]

39. Credit Clinton supporters with great enthusiasm.

That they don't get as much traction here as their candidate does everywhere else isn't their fault.

[bettyellen]

41. there are dozens of people here who support Hillary who stay out of GDP for good reasons.

lots of people have taken a break entirely, until things go back to normal.

[Beacool]

45. What's the matter, can't handle having Hillary supporters on a Democratic site?

Too bad, this is still DU, not Sanders Underground.

Why does everything have to be a conspiracy for some of you? Do you guys even realize how paranoid you sound?

[Onlooker]

46. I think Sanders supporters are slowly giving up

They're down, Hillary supporters up, so it's no surprise and it's not a reflection on an anyone that the number of pro Hilary posts has increased.

[Bluenorthwest]

49. The West Coast is busy with elections and people are sick of how DU is these days:

Posts hidden by Jury: 10
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=110836&sub=trans


The Glorious Amnesty made this place into Yahoo Comments level ugly. Between the antisemitic posts, the gay baiting and the simply nasty it has become a very negative space, this DU.

[LostOne4Ever]

47. If what you say is true...

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]It probably means that there are an equal number of partisans (people personally or emotionally invested in a certain candidate), and the majority of the sites members aren't as invested or as interested in the primary.

It is highly possible that most of the latter, while they may have a majority preference for a certain candidate in particular, they probably don't want to get bogged down with the nasty infighting between the partisans and might even demand a separate forum for the partisans to duke it out.

That is just my opinion assuming that things are the way you describe, though.[/font]

[moriah]

50. Or maybe Hillary supporters decided to keep quiet...

... preparing themselves for another defeat...

And now feel safe to speak.

[randome]

51. Those of us who don't put all our eggs into one basket have more time to post?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

[sufrommich]

52. Wow,I guess some Meta threads are more equal

than others.

[thucythucy]

56. I don't know how you arrived at the "50-50" figure.

I checked in this morning and from what I can see (as of ten seconds ago) the OPs were still pretty much overwhelmingly pro-Bernie.

[seabeyond]

59. When making up numbers, one can argue any which way.

[Logical]

61. Lol, the benie fans dont need to whine so much

[one_voice]

66. Locking...

Disruptive meta is not allowed.