Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:03 PM

When a web forum's members are overwhelmingly for Sanders, but the posts are about 50-50

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or even slanted toward Clinton...

How to explain that? What accounts for that?

Do Hillary supporters just post 5 times as much for some reason?

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When a web forum's members are overwhelmingly for Sanders, but the posts are about 50-50 (Original post)	Cheese Sandwich	Apr 2016	OP
Or maybe some of that $1million dollars from Clinton's campaign is at work here. nm	floriduck	Apr 2016	#1
As much as I wish I had a milion dollars...	moriah	Apr 2016	#54
It could be a sudden mass influx of new Hillary supporters joining DU.	Zorra	Apr 2016	#2
It's a movement allright	Autumn	Apr 2016	#14
...	Zorra	Apr 2016	#19
Here the new registration page... Still very pro sanders.	Agschmid	Apr 2016	#62
Yes, 50% pro-Bernie, 50% anti-Hillary.	JaneyVee	Apr 2016	#3
Nice!	Codeine	Apr 2016	#4
....	sufrommich	Apr 2016	#9
I absolutely adore you!	NurseJackie	Apr 2016	#11
Miss Fisher!!!!!!	all american girl	Apr 2016	#42
I love that show!!!	Beacool	Apr 2016	#43
Win. Close the thread. nt	LexVegas	Apr 2016	#16
HA! It sure looks close to that to me! NT	Adrahil	Apr 2016	#22
snickersnort	nolawarlock	Apr 2016	#29
Yup.	ismnotwasm	Apr 2016	#35
Bam.	Bobbie Jo	Apr 2016	#38
hahahahaha	obamanut2012	Apr 2016	#40
BOOM! Good one.	betsuni	Apr 2016	#44
Oh snap. n/t	JTFrog	Apr 2016	#57
What a load of crap. nt	onehandle	Apr 2016	#5
..	Cheese Sandwich	Apr 2016	#32
Another #AssPulledStatistic	OilemFirchen	Apr 2016	#6
Nope.	Agschmid	Apr 2016	#63
Maybe we should show our check stubs	BootinUp	Apr 2016	#7
Show your work. nt	sufrommich	Apr 2016	#8
I must ask why are so very many new Hillary supporters some even showing their transparency page	azurnoir	Apr 2016	#10
you noticed that, too. interesting, idn't it.	Hiraeth	Apr 2016	#12
yep I noticed	azurnoir	Apr 2016	#13
bless you, my child	Hiraeth	Apr 2016	#18
well it helps if	azurnoir	Apr 2016	#27
You have inside information and you at still totally making it up.	Agschmid	Apr 2016	#64
When you consider the ones who have been flagged	Autumn	Apr 2016	#21
for every hillary supporter you can name I can give you four new bernie bots	snooper2	Apr 2016	#36
I can't believe I'm agreeing with a post of yours, but you speak the truth here. n/t	JTFrog	Apr 2016	#58
That's called 'Papering the House', it's suspension of attendance rules to enhance the	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2016	#48
Dirty trick and lies. Her entire candidacy's foundation.	vintx	Apr 2016	#60
Um. just a guess	72DejaVu	Apr 2016	#53
This is a forum for Democrats. It's actually in the name of the site.	Bleacher Creature	Apr 2016	#15
so people that voted for Bernie are not Democrats I take it?	azurnoir	Apr 2016	#24
Is there actual data to support "but the posts are about 50-50" ?	Tarc	Apr 2016	#17
If there was, it would come from someone with 1200 Bernie fans on their "ignore list".	NurseJackie	Apr 2016	#30
There isn't.	Agschmid	Apr 2016	#65
They are paid. It's a job.	kgnu_fan	Apr 2016	#20
Please make sure my check gets to me...	Adrahil	Apr 2016	#25
Try here:	Downwinder	Apr 2016	#34
Is this the outfit you went with in your research?	NCTraveler	Apr 2016	#23
Maybe they're posting from 'work'.	HooptieWagon	Apr 2016	#26
Can you provide the objective source for the 50/50 allegation?	LanternWaste	Apr 2016	#28
Where did you get the 50-50 figure?	athena	Apr 2016	#31
so exactly how many posts are for each candidate according to your investigation? just curious	msongs	Apr 2016	#33
You need to	Andy823	Apr 2016	#37
Credit Clinton supporters with great enthusiasm.	Orsino	Apr 2016	#39
there are dozens of people here who support Hillary who stay out of GDP for good reasons.	bettyellen	Apr 2016	#41
What's the matter, can't handle having Hillary supporters on a Democratic site?	Beacool	Apr 2016	#45
I think Sanders supporters are slowly giving up	Onlooker	Apr 2016	#46
The West Coast is busy with elections and people are sick of how DU is these days:	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2016	#49
If what you say is true...	LostOne4Ever	Apr 2016	#47
Or maybe Hillary supporters decided to keep quiet...	moriah	Apr 2016	#50
Those of us who don't put all our eggs into one basket have more time to post?	randome	Apr 2016	#51
Wow,I guess some Meta threads are more equal	sufrommich	Apr 2016	#52
This message was self-deleted by its author	rjsquirrel	Apr 2016	#55
I don't know how you arrived at the "50-50" figure.	thucythucy	Apr 2016	#56
When making up numbers, one can argue any which way.	seabeyond	Apr 2016	#59
Lol, the benie fans dont need to whine so much	Logical	Apr 2016	#61
Locking...	one_voice	Apr 2016	#66

Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:05 PM

floriduck (2,262 posts)

1. Or maybe some of that $1million dollars from Clinton's campaign is at work here. nm

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Response to floriduck (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:16 AM

moriah (8,304 posts)

54. As much as I wish I had a milion dollars...

.. and yes, would still eat Kraft dinner...

If you do the math on how many people that could pay, it's an awfully small budget for a massive troll brigade.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:06 PM

Zorra (27,670 posts)

2. It could be a sudden mass influx of new Hillary supporters joining DU.

Maybe it's a movement!

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Response to Zorra (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:21 PM

Autumn (41,595 posts)

14. It's a movement allright

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Response to Autumn (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:24 PM

Zorra (27,670 posts)

19. ...

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Response to Zorra (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:36 AM

Agschmid (28,743 posts)

62. Here the new registration page... Still very pro sanders.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=firstposts

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:06 PM

JaneyVee (19,877 posts)

3. Yes, 50% pro-Bernie, 50% anti-Hillary.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:08 PM

Codeine (25,586 posts)

4. Nice!

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:14 PM

sufrommich (22,871 posts)

9. ....

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:16 PM

NurseJackie (42,862 posts)

11. I absolutely adore you!

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:20 AM

all american girl (1,788 posts)

42. Miss Fisher!!!!!!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:23 AM

Beacool (30,115 posts)

43. I love that show!!!

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:21 PM

LexVegas (5,281 posts)

16. Win. Close the thread. nt

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:25 PM

Adrahil (13,340 posts)

22. HA! It sure looks close to that to me! NT

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:31 PM

nolawarlock (1,729 posts)

29. snickersnort

Now there's some poll numbers we can trust!

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:47 PM

ismnotwasm (40,660 posts)

35. Yup.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:52 PM

Bobbie Jo (14,341 posts)

38. Bam.

Done here.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:06 PM

obamanut2012 (22,923 posts)

40. hahahahaha

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:25 AM

betsuni (19,860 posts)

44. BOOM! Good one.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:30 AM

JTFrog (14,274 posts)

57. Oh snap. n/t

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:08 PM

onehandle (51,122 posts)

5. What a load of crap. nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:11 PM

Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)

32. ..

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:11 PM

OilemFirchen (6,763 posts)

6. Another #AssPulledStatistic

Can you show us your work?

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:37 AM

Agschmid (28,743 posts)

63. Nope.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:12 PM

BootinUp (42,463 posts)

7. Maybe we should show our check stubs

they are printed on very pretty paper.

Because it couldn't be explained by the fact that the primary is essentially over.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:13 PM

sufrommich (22,871 posts)

8. Show your work. nt

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:15 PM

azurnoir (45,850 posts)

10. I must ask why are so very many new Hillary supporters some even showing their transparency page

after less than a month, but yet are still active members however very few new Bernie supporters make it past their first hide if they even get that far?

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:17 PM

Hiraeth (4,805 posts)

12. you noticed that, too. interesting, idn't it.

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Response to Hiraeth (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:19 PM

azurnoir (45,850 posts)

13. yep I noticed

but ya could say I have 'inside' info too

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10135783

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:22 PM

Hiraeth (4,805 posts)

18. bless you, my child

you must have the patience of a saint

congrats!!

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Response to Hiraeth (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:29 PM

azurnoir (45,850 posts)

27. well it helps if

A you have a really weird sense of 'humor'

and

B you smoke a lot of well something

sort of

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:38 AM

Agschmid (28,743 posts)

64. You have inside information and you at still totally making it up.

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:25 PM

Autumn (41,595 posts)

21. When you consider the ones who have been flagged

forever that are obviously posting here under new names it gets clear.

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:49 PM

snooper2 (30,151 posts)

36. for every hillary supporter you can name I can give you four new bernie bots

Want to have a go at it?

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #36)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:32 AM

JTFrog (14,274 posts)

58. I can't believe I'm agreeing with a post of yours, but you speak the truth here. n/t

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:00 AM

Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)

48. That's called 'Papering the House', it's suspension of attendance rules to enhance the

appearance of popularity. Very old trick from a very old book.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #48)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:35 AM

vintx (1,748 posts)

60. Dirty trick and lies. Her entire candidacy's foundation.

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:15 AM

72DejaVu (1,545 posts)

53. Um. just a guess

She's winning?

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:21 PM

Bleacher Creature (10,838 posts)

15. This is a forum for Democrats. It's actually in the name of the site.

People who have voted in Democratic primaries have solidly gone in Hillary's direction, and when you isolate the numbers to actual Democrats, it's overwhelming.

Putting aside the questionable numbers, I'm not sure when anyone should be surprised that there's still a lot of Clinton support here.

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:26 PM

azurnoir (45,850 posts)

24. so people that voted for Bernie are not Democrats I take it?

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:22 PM

Tarc (10,207 posts)

17. Is there actual data to support "but the posts are about 50-50" ?

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Response to Tarc (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:31 PM

NurseJackie (42,862 posts)

30. If there was, it would come from someone with 1200 Bernie fans on their "ignore list".

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:38 AM

Agschmid (28,743 posts)

65. There isn't.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:24 PM

kgnu_fan (3,021 posts)

20. They are paid. It's a job.

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:26 PM

Adrahil (13,340 posts)

25. Please make sure my check gets to me...

I seem to not be getting them.

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:42 PM

Downwinder (12,869 posts)

34. Try here:

http://correctrecord.org/contact/

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:26 PM

NCTraveler (30,481 posts)

23. Is this the outfit you went with in your research?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251650529

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:29 PM

HooptieWagon (17,064 posts)

26. Maybe they're posting from 'work'.

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:31 PM

LanternWaste (37,748 posts)

28. Can you provide the objective source for the 50/50 allegation?

Can you provide the objective source for the 50/50 allegation?

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:42 PM

athena (4,187 posts)

31. Where did you get the 50-50 figure?

You can't just pull numbers out of the air based on your impressions. You have to actually do an unbiased analysis. You have to count every single post that was published in a given time frame, and categorize each post as pro-Bernie, pro-Hillary, or neutral. And you have to do this with enough posts and over a long enough time period to make sure your sample is statistically significant and representative of the overall trend. Ideally, you wouldn't do the measurement yourself but have an unbiased apolitical party do it to make sure you weren't biasing the results.

Quantitative analysis is hard. It's extremely difficult to remove bias from one's results, even when one is looking at something apparently impersonal like elementary particles. With something like politics, it's even more difficult.

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:20 PM

msongs (63,837 posts)

33. so exactly how many posts are for each candidate according to your investigation? just curious

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:51 PM

Andy823 (11,455 posts)

37. You need to

Change the cheese in your sandwich, it's getting rather moldy and smelly!

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:55 PM

Orsino (37,428 posts)

39. Credit Clinton supporters with great enthusiasm.

That they don't get as much traction here as their candidate does everywhere else isn't their fault.

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:38 PM

bettyellen (47,209 posts)

41. there are dozens of people here who support Hillary who stay out of GDP for good reasons.

lots of people have taken a break entirely, until things go back to normal.

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:26 AM

Beacool (30,115 posts)

45. What's the matter, can't handle having Hillary supporters on a Democratic site?

Too bad, this is still DU, not Sanders Underground.

Why does everything have to be a conspiracy for some of you? Do you guys even realize how paranoid you sound?

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 05:58 AM

Onlooker (5,636 posts)

46. I think Sanders supporters are slowly giving up

They're down, Hillary supporters up, so it's no surprise and it's not a reflection on an anyone that the number of pro Hilary posts has increased.

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Response to Onlooker (Reply #46)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:04 AM

Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)

49. The West Coast is busy with elections and people are sick of how DU is these days:

Posts hidden by Jury: 10
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=110836&sub=trans

The Glorious Amnesty made this place into Yahoo Comments level ugly. Between the antisemitic posts, the gay baiting and the simply nasty it has become a very negative space, this DU.

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 06:30 AM

LostOne4Ever (8,677 posts)

47. If what you say is true...

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]It probably means that there are an equal number of partisans (people personally or emotionally invested in a certain candidate), and the majority of the sites members aren't as invested or as interested in the primary.

It is highly possible that most of the latter, while they may have a majority preference for a certain candidate in particular, they probably don't want to get bogged down with the nasty infighting between the partisans and might even demand a separate forum for the partisans to duke it out.

That is just my opinion assuming that things are the way you describe, though.[/font]

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:06 AM

moriah (8,304 posts)

50. Or maybe Hillary supporters decided to keep quiet...

... preparing themselves for another defeat...

And now feel safe to speak.

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:07 AM

randome (34,845 posts)

51. Those of us who don't put all our eggs into one basket have more time to post?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:09 AM

sufrommich (22,871 posts)

52. Wow,I guess some Meta threads are more equal

than others.

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:29 AM

thucythucy (6,730 posts)

56. I don't know how you arrived at the "50-50" figure.

I checked in this morning and from what I can see (as of ten seconds ago) the OPs were still pretty much overwhelmingly pro-Bernie.

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:32 AM

seabeyond (110,159 posts)

59. When making up numbers, one can argue any which way.

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:35 AM

Logical (22,457 posts)

61. Lol, the benie fans dont need to whine so much

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Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:59 AM

one_voice (20,043 posts)

66. Locking...

Disruptive meta is not allowed.

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2016 Postmortem (Forum)

When a web forum's members are overwhelmingly for Sanders, but the posts are about 50-50

1. Or maybe some of that $1million dollars from Clinton's campaign is at work here. nm

54. As much as I wish I had a milion dollars...

2. It could be a sudden mass influx of new Hillary supporters joining DU.

14. It's a movement allright

19. ...

62. Here the new registration page... Still very pro sanders.

3. Yes, 50% pro-Bernie, 50% anti-Hillary.

4. Nice!

9. ....

11. I absolutely adore you!

42. Miss Fisher!!!!!!

43. I love that show!!!

16. Win. Close the thread. nt

22. HA! It sure looks close to that to me! NT

29. *snickersnort*

35. Yup.

38. Bam.

40. hahahahaha

44. BOOM! Good one.

57. Oh snap. n/t

5. What a load of crap. nt

32. ..

6. Another #AssPulledStatistic

63. Nope.

7. Maybe we should show our check stubs

8. Show your work. nt

10. I must ask why are so very many new Hillary supporters some even showing their transparency page

12. you noticed that, too. interesting, idn't it.

13. yep I noticed

18. bless you, my child

27. well it helps if

64. You have inside information and you at still totally making it up.

21. When you consider the ones who have been flagged

36. for every hillary supporter you can name I can give you four new bernie bots

58. I can't believe I'm agreeing with a post of yours, but you speak the truth here. n/t

48. That's called 'Papering the House', it's suspension of attendance rules to enhance the

60. Dirty trick and lies. Her entire candidacy's foundation.

53. Um. just a guess

15. This is a forum for Democrats. It's actually in the name of the site.

24. so people that voted for Bernie are not Democrats I take it?

17. Is there actual data to support "but the posts are about 50-50" ?

30. If there was, it would come from someone with 1200 Bernie fans on their "ignore list".

65. There isn't.

20. They are paid. It's a job.

25. Please make sure my check gets to me...

34. Try here:

23. Is this the outfit you went with in your research?

26. Maybe they're posting from 'work'.

28. Can you provide the objective source for the 50/50 allegation?

31. Where did you get the 50-50 figure?

33. so exactly how many posts are for each candidate according to your investigation? just curious

37. You need to

39. Credit Clinton supporters with great enthusiasm.

41. there are dozens of people here who support Hillary who stay out of GDP for good reasons.

45. What's the matter, can't handle having Hillary supporters on a Democratic site?

46. I think Sanders supporters are slowly giving up

49. The West Coast is busy with elections and people are sick of how DU is these days:

47. If what you say is true...

50. Or maybe Hillary supporters decided to keep quiet...

51. Those of us who don't put all our eggs into one basket have more time to post?

52. Wow,I guess some Meta threads are more equal

56. I don't know how you arrived at the "50-50" figure.

59. When making up numbers, one can argue any which way.

61. Lol, the benie fans dont need to whine so much

66. Locking...

29. snickersnort