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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:03 PM

 

When a web forum's members are overwhelmingly for Sanders, but the posts are about 50-50

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or even slanted toward Clinton...

How to explain that? What accounts for that?

Do Hillary supporters just post 5 times as much for some reason?

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Reply When a web forum's members are overwhelmingly for Sanders, but the posts are about 50-50 (Original post)
Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 OP
floriduck Apr 2016 #1
moriah Apr 2016 #54
Zorra Apr 2016 #2
Autumn Apr 2016 #14
Zorra Apr 2016 #19
Agschmid Apr 2016 #62
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #3
Codeine Apr 2016 #4
sufrommich Apr 2016 #9
NurseJackie Apr 2016 #11
all american girl Apr 2016 #42
Beacool Apr 2016 #43
LexVegas Apr 2016 #16
Adrahil Apr 2016 #22
nolawarlock Apr 2016 #29
ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #35
Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #38
obamanut2012 Apr 2016 #40
betsuni Apr 2016 #44
JTFrog Apr 2016 #57
onehandle Apr 2016 #5
Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #32
OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #6
Agschmid Apr 2016 #63
BootinUp Apr 2016 #7
sufrommich Apr 2016 #8
azurnoir Apr 2016 #10
Hiraeth Apr 2016 #12
azurnoir Apr 2016 #13
Hiraeth Apr 2016 #18
azurnoir Apr 2016 #27
Agschmid Apr 2016 #64
Autumn Apr 2016 #21
snooper2 Apr 2016 #36
JTFrog Apr 2016 #58
Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #48
vintx Apr 2016 #60
72DejaVu Apr 2016 #53
Bleacher Creature Apr 2016 #15
azurnoir Apr 2016 #24
Tarc Apr 2016 #17
NurseJackie Apr 2016 #30
Agschmid Apr 2016 #65
kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #20
Adrahil Apr 2016 #25
Downwinder Apr 2016 #34
NCTraveler Apr 2016 #23
HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #26
LanternWaste Apr 2016 #28
athena Apr 2016 #31
msongs Apr 2016 #33
Andy823 Apr 2016 #37
Orsino Apr 2016 #39
bettyellen Apr 2016 #41
Beacool Apr 2016 #45
Onlooker Apr 2016 #46
Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #49
LostOne4Ever Apr 2016 #47
moriah Apr 2016 #50
randome Apr 2016 #51
sufrommich Apr 2016 #52
rjsquirrel Apr 2016 #55
thucythucy Apr 2016 #56
seabeyond Apr 2016 #59
Logical Apr 2016 #61
one_voice Apr 2016 #66

Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:05 PM

1. Or maybe some of that $1million dollars from Clinton's campaign is at work here. nm

 

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Response to floriduck (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:16 AM

54. As much as I wish I had a milion dollars...

.. and yes, would still eat Kraft dinner...

If you do the math on how many people that could pay, it's an awfully small budget for a massive troll brigade.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:06 PM

2. It could be a sudden mass influx of new Hillary supporters joining DU.

Maybe it's a movement!

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Response to Zorra (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:21 PM

14. It's a movement allright

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Response to Autumn (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:24 PM

19. ...

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Response to Zorra (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:36 AM

62. Here the new registration page... Still very pro sanders.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:06 PM

3. Yes, 50% pro-Bernie, 50% anti-Hillary.

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:08 PM

4. Nice!

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:14 PM

9. ....

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:16 PM

11. I absolutely adore you!


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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:20 AM

42. Miss Fisher!!!!!!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:23 AM

43. I love that show!!!

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:21 PM

16. Win. Close the thread. nt

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:25 PM

22. HA! It sure looks close to that to me! NT

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:31 PM

29. *snickersnort*

Now there's some poll numbers we can trust!

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:47 PM

35. Yup.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:52 PM

38. Bam.

Done here.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:06 PM

40. hahahahaha

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:25 AM

44. BOOM! Good one.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:30 AM

57. Oh snap. n/t

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:08 PM

5. What a load of crap. nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:11 PM

32. ..

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:11 PM

6. Another #AssPulledStatistic

Can you show us your work?

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:37 AM

63. Nope.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:12 PM

7. Maybe we should show our check stubs

they are printed on very pretty paper.



Because it couldn't be explained by the fact that the primary is essentially over.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:13 PM

8. Show your work. nt

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:15 PM

10. I must ask why are so very many new Hillary supporters some even showing their transparency page

after less than a month, but yet are still active members however very few new Bernie supporters make it past their first hide if they even get that far?

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:17 PM

12. you noticed that, too. interesting, idn't it.

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Response to Hiraeth (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:19 PM

13. yep I noticed

but ya could say I have 'inside' info too

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10135783

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:22 PM

18. bless you, my child

you must have the patience of a saint

congrats!!

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Response to Hiraeth (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:29 PM

27. well it helps if

A you have a really weird sense of 'humor'

and

B you smoke a lot of well something

sort of

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:38 AM

64. You have inside information and you at still totally making it up.

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:25 PM

21. When you consider the ones who have been flagged

forever that are obviously posting here under new names it gets clear.

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:49 PM

36. for every hillary supporter you can name I can give you four new bernie bots

 

Want to have a go at it?

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #36)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:32 AM

58. I can't believe I'm agreeing with a post of yours, but you speak the truth here. n/t

 

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:00 AM

48. That's called 'Papering the House', it's suspension of attendance rules to enhance the

 

appearance of popularity. Very old trick from a very old book.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #48)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:35 AM

60. Dirty trick and lies. Her entire candidacy's foundation.

 

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:15 AM

53. Um. just a guess

She's winning?

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:21 PM

15. This is a forum for Democrats. It's actually in the name of the site.

People who have voted in Democratic primaries have solidly gone in Hillary's direction, and when you isolate the numbers to actual Democrats, it's overwhelming.

Putting aside the questionable numbers, I'm not sure when anyone should be surprised that there's still a lot of Clinton support here.

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:26 PM

24. so people that voted for Bernie are not Democrats I take it?

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:22 PM

17. Is there actual data to support "but the posts are about 50-50" ?

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Response to Tarc (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:31 PM

30. If there was, it would come from someone with 1200 Bernie fans on their "ignore list".

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Response to Tarc (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:38 AM

65. There isn't.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:24 PM

20. They are paid. It's a job.

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Response to kgnu_fan (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:26 PM

25. Please make sure my check gets to me...

 

I seem to not be getting them.

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #25)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:42 PM

34. Try here:

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:26 PM

23. Is this the outfit you went with in your research?

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:29 PM

26. Maybe they're posting from 'work'.

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:31 PM

28. Can you provide the objective source for the 50/50 allegation?

 

Can you provide the objective source for the 50/50 allegation?

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:42 PM

31. Where did you get the 50-50 figure?

You can't just pull numbers out of the air based on your impressions. You have to actually do an unbiased analysis. You have to count every single post that was published in a given time frame, and categorize each post as pro-Bernie, pro-Hillary, or neutral. And you have to do this with enough posts and over a long enough time period to make sure your sample is statistically significant and representative of the overall trend. Ideally, you wouldn't do the measurement yourself but have an unbiased apolitical party do it to make sure you weren't biasing the results.

Quantitative analysis is hard. It's extremely difficult to remove bias from one's results, even when one is looking at something apparently impersonal like elementary particles. With something like politics, it's even more difficult.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:20 PM

33. so exactly how many posts are for each candidate according to your investigation? just curious

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:51 PM

37. You need to

Change the cheese in your sandwich, it's getting rather moldy and smelly!

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:55 PM

39. Credit Clinton supporters with great enthusiasm.

That they don't get as much traction here as their candidate does everywhere else isn't their fault.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:38 PM

41. there are dozens of people here who support Hillary who stay out of GDP for good reasons.

 

lots of people have taken a break entirely, until things go back to normal.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:26 AM

45. What's the matter, can't handle having Hillary supporters on a Democratic site?

Too bad, this is still DU, not Sanders Underground.

Why does everything have to be a conspiracy for some of you? Do you guys even realize how paranoid you sound?

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 05:58 AM

46. I think Sanders supporters are slowly giving up

 

They're down, Hillary supporters up, so it's no surprise and it's not a reflection on an anyone that the number of pro Hilary posts has increased.

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Response to Onlooker (Reply #46)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:04 AM

49. The West Coast is busy with elections and people are sick of how DU is these days:

 

Posts hidden by Jury: 10
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=110836&sub=trans


The Glorious Amnesty made this place into Yahoo Comments level ugly. Between the antisemitic posts, the gay baiting and the simply nasty it has become a very negative space, this DU.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 06:30 AM

47. If what you say is true...

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]It probably means that there are an equal number of partisans (people personally or emotionally invested in a certain candidate), and the majority of the sites members aren't as invested or as interested in the primary.

It is highly possible that most of the latter, while they may have a majority preference for a certain candidate in particular, they probably don't want to get bogged down with the nasty infighting between the partisans and might even demand a separate forum for the partisans to duke it out.

That is just my opinion assuming that things are the way you describe, though.[/font]

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:06 AM

50. Or maybe Hillary supporters decided to keep quiet...

... preparing themselves for another defeat...

And now feel safe to speak.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:07 AM

51. Those of us who don't put all our eggs into one basket have more time to post?

 

[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 08:09 AM

52. Wow,I guess some Meta threads are more equal

than others.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:29 AM

56. I don't know how you arrived at the "50-50" figure.

I checked in this morning and from what I can see (as of ten seconds ago) the OPs were still pretty much overwhelmingly pro-Bernie.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:32 AM

59. When making up numbers, one can argue any which way.

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:35 AM

61. Lol, the benie fans dont need to whine so much

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 09:59 AM

66. Locking...

Disruptive meta is not allowed.

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