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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:25 PM

 

Why would Bernie fire low level staffers making $15/hr....

Instead of telling Tad Devine to take a pay cut less than the $830k/month he currently makes?

Former staffers said they were pissed because they were told they would be employed through June.

And its not just Tad, he had an army of consultants, ad agencies, and advisers that he spent almost $100 million on; more than 2x what Hillary has spent.

Even in his own campaign he couldnt stop all the money from going to the top 1%?

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Reply Why would Bernie fire low level staffers making $15/hr.... (Original post)
JaneyVee Apr 2016 OP
Post removed Apr 2016 #1
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #3
Android3.14 Apr 2016 #18
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #22
Baobab Apr 2016 #25
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #35
Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #30
catnhatnh Apr 2016 #54
QC Apr 2016 #53
Name removed Apr 2016 #58
840high Apr 2016 #64
Desert805 Apr 2016 #27
cwydro Apr 2016 #55
Corporate666 Apr 2016 #68
whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #28
Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #43
dchill Apr 2016 #47
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #49
Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #51
Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #59
onehandle Apr 2016 #4
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #38
Chasstev365 Apr 2016 #31
Downwinder Apr 2016 #2
Jitter65 Apr 2016 #5
snowy owl Apr 2016 #7
Downwinder Apr 2016 #11
Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #32
snowy owl Apr 2016 #6
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #8
snowy owl Apr 2016 #10
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #15
snowy owl Apr 2016 #34
JaneyVee Apr 2016 #39
byyiminy Apr 2016 #48
napi21 Apr 2016 #9
guillaumeb Apr 2016 #12
Downwinder Apr 2016 #16
guillaumeb Apr 2016 #33
Blanks Apr 2016 #20
NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #13
snowy owl Apr 2016 #14
NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #23
Blanks Apr 2016 #29
onehandle Apr 2016 #19
snowy owl Apr 2016 #24
GeorgeGist Apr 2016 #71
Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #17
Hoyt Apr 2016 #21
snowy owl Apr 2016 #26
Hoyt Apr 2016 #37
Kentonio Apr 2016 #69
joshcryer Apr 2016 #50
libdem4life Apr 2016 #36
Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #40
joshcryer Apr 2016 #41
LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #42
NCTraveler Apr 2016 #44
dchill Apr 2016 #45
cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #46
seabeyond Apr 2016 #52
Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #60
seabeyond Apr 2016 #61
Kentonio Apr 2016 #70
frylock Apr 2016 #56
imagine2015 Apr 2016 #57
aikoaiko Apr 2016 #62
Autumn Apr 2016 #63
840high Apr 2016 #65
Lil Missy Apr 2016 #66
Logical Apr 2016 #67

Response to JaneyVee (Original post)


Response to Post removed (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:30 PM

3. Huh? Im asking simple questions.

 

Is there a reason Tad commands such a high salary?

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:39 PM

18. Your behavior disgusts me, and your mean-girl tactics turn me away from your candidate

 

I'm not kidding. Your behavior is offensive, lacking in grace, and counter-productive to promoting your candidate.

You will be one of the reasons Trump wins the general election. Not because folks like me would vote for Trump, but because I refuse to stand with people who behave like you.

You represent the most shameful aspects of the Clinton campaign.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:42 PM

22. Dont get too worked up over an anonymous poster on the internet.

 

We're on each others team.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:43 PM

25. he laid them off, and they are in many cases eligible for unemployment

This is normal for campaigns, as he is shifting his focus to other states.

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Response to Baobab (Reply #25)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:51 PM

35. He gave a 10 day severance pay and had Jeff Weaver make the call.

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:47 PM

30. You are not on the same team

 

With that vitriol. Why does Hillary make her people work for free when I am sure she has high paid people on her payroll. I hate the fucking hypocrisy of some of you people.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #30)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:19 PM

54. On the same team my ass!

She and posters like her are why it is so important that people write in Bernie Sanders to show that no, they cannot make the Queen our only option.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:18 PM

53. I'm not on the same team with someone who links to Stormfront

in order to attack a Jewish candidate.

That's one of the most vile things I've seen in more than fifteen years on this site.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:56 PM

64. I'm not on your team. You are plain nasty.

 

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:44 PM

27. Well said.

So sick of the childish bullshit. Good lord.

There's plenty of info regarding Sanders paying his interns, paying local police, etc., which is fantastic, but the more bitter brained among us somehow turn it into this gross shit.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:22 PM

55. I really can't imagine deciding for whom I will or will not vote based on someone

hurting my feelings on a message board.

Dude, read up on the issues. Choose based on the candidate, not on their supporters.

Dearie me.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:23 AM

68. Truth hurts, huh?

I watched Bernie bash Jeff Immelt for having stuff made overseas and cutting jobs when it was expedient for him to do so. Bernie flamed him hard and suggested that GE had plenty money and didn't need to be laying people off.

Then he turns around AND DOES EXACTLY THE SAME THING!

Bernie has plenty of money, yet he pays peanuts. He promises people jobs then he drops them like hot potatoes as soon as they are no longer useful to him.

Meanwhile he pays his 1% very well and those guys never get a pay cut when there are lots of little guys whose pay can be cut.

Bernie is a hypocrite. Just another typical do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do politician flying around in charter jets, raking in lots of money and earning a great living and not doing anything to spread the wealth around.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:44 PM

28. You folks make every excuse under the sun for the Clinton's wealth, speaking fees, sham foundation..

Consistent ethics and principles are not really a Hilfan thing, are they?

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:05 PM

43. You've been as deliberately obnoxious as you can

 

possibly be. What exactly is your objective at this point?

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #43)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:09 PM

47. Just the enjoyment of the taste!

Venom! Mmmm...

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #43)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:14 PM

49. Did this really come across as obnoxious?

 

Im asking serious questions here.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #49)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:15 PM

51. Does a bear shit in the woods?

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #49)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:51 PM

59. Don't play coy. You work in an industry that is made almost entirely of short term

 

employment for almost all people in that industry. At the end of a film, the crew is not fired the job simply ends and this is something you fucking know. So obnoxious? Yes and also wildly dishonest.
Also your bullshit about 800K in salary. You are a production accountant. You know that is a false statement. You know it is not honest. Obnoxious is the best of what your work on DU is.

The worst of it JV, is that you show massive disrespect for Hillary by doing the nasty things you do here and claiming it is for her that you do it. I can tell you this, I will not be volunteering if she's the nominee because I do not want to risk being around antisemitic bullies and other assorted snot box mean people that I see touting Hillary here on DU.

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:30 PM

4. ...



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Response to onehandle (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:52 PM

38. Almost there! Lobster Sliders!

 

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Response to Post removed (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:48 PM

31. Yeah: It's a pattern!

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:28 PM

2. Same reason Clinton cut TV ads.

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Response to Downwinder (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:30 PM

5. TV ad aren't people. nt

 

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Response to Jitter65 (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:31 PM

7. Who do you think creates those ads?

I think we should institute intelligence tests before allowed to vote.

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Response to Jitter65 (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:34 PM

11. How do you figure that?

TV ads are put out by Corporations. Corporations are people (I have that on the best of authorities).

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Response to Jitter65 (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:48 PM

32. People make them

 

And people work at the stations airing them.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:30 PM

6. You do lie, JaneyVee. Tad is a consultant who passes on the money to staffers - lots of them

Why so much spin on your posts and so little truth? I wonder how many people have you on the ignore list...

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:32 PM

8. Is that true? So what is Tads salary?

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:33 PM

10. Why don't you tell me? You are the one who claims to know...

What's the link for your number? Or is out of your ass? I've seen what Bernie pays for his organization but not what he his own salary is. So I don't go spreading what I don't know around as fact.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:50 PM

34. You don't understand your source, do you? Disbursements by payee: Devine Mulvey Longabaugh Inc

Devine Mulvey Longabaugh Inc 810,211.44

That is his consulting firm. The money is divided up among all the employees of that firm who worked on the campaign,

Now I wrote that really, really simple so you would understand it. I've seen that before and I thought you were referencing it. Now I know why HRC supporters default to smears because you really don't know how to read a disbursements spreadsheet.

You know what? I bet you go on to spread this lie even after I've explained it to you. And I bet I'm not the first. Now think about your own integrity.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #34)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:54 PM

39. And wheres your source?

 

So Devine firm couldnt take 600k that month to keep people employed?

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #34)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:09 PM

48. I wouldn't count on her integrity

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:33 PM

9. I'm sure Bernies donations have dropped off, at leat somewhat, since the beating

he took in the NE. For the first time he has to budget his expenses. The $15//hr staffers do important work for sure, but Tad is one of the key people keeping the campaign on track.

Anyone who works for any campaign knows it's a temporary job! Even if you work for the WINNER, most of the staff jobs will end.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:34 PM

12. That $15 is three dollars more than HRC supports for the minimum wage.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:39 PM

16. And $15.00 more than HRC pays interns.

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Response to Downwinder (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:49 PM

33. Very nice.

How many hours would a $15 an hour employee work to make $225,000?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:39 PM

20. He could have kept more employees for longer...

If he'd been paying $3/hour less.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:36 PM

13. Well, unfortunately ...

... the money to fund an all-expenses-paid, private-jet getaway to Rome for Bernie's entire family had to come from somewhere - and the $27-per donors are such an easy mark.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:38 PM

14. and we gladly paid it.

Although as people who are informed know the trip did not come from campaign funds. I believe that is illegal.

Why do you post such crap?

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:42 PM

23. Do you have a breakdown ...

... of where the money came from, if not campaign funds?

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:45 PM

29. It's just the kind of thing...

That we hear about in the 'corporate media'

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-brings-family-trip-vatican/story?id=38416805

Here's an excerpt: "The trip was organized and paid for by Sanders’ campaign"

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:39 PM

19. They basically funded the most expensive pre-book tour in history. nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #19)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:42 PM

24. I'm beginning to see why the HRC ignore-list is so long.

Are you unable to post anything that isn't a smear? Really.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:09 PM

71. Why do you feel the need to insult Bernie supporters?

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:39 PM

17. More important question - why does anyone care? Surely more important things to think about.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:40 PM

21. It's a legitimate question. Some folks were only getting $10/hr. Sanders' supporters really squirmed

rationalizing that one, as well as Sanders acting like a corporatist slashing staff and breaking promises. I get it might have been necessary, but still hypocritical.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #21)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:44 PM

26. Hoyt, what would you have done if you were him? It's a fair question.

Also, what promises did he break?

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #26)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:52 PM

37. I said it might be necessary, but he portrays himself as worker oriented.

He's as cold-blooded as a corporatist when it comes to who gets paid, who gets less than his campaign promise of $15/hr, how people are treated when laid off, etc. He should have figured out a better way to handle it.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #37)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 05:45 AM

69. As cold blooded as Hillary who uses unpaid interns?

 

Or do moral questions only apply to one candidate?

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #21)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:14 PM

50. It's as dumb as the "give bonuses instead of Clinton speech" crap.

Sounds great in practise, but the real world doesn't work that way. CEOs don't poll their employees as to whether they'd prefer a bonus or listen to a speaker. And campaign consultants don't promise to take an income hit to benefit other campaign employees.

It's all dumb.

Would it be that the world worked that way.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:52 PM

36. This is so absurd. Like an HRC person cares.

 

And the "gotcha" is childish and the height of absurdity. My thought...stick to real issues, not
made up tripe.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:55 PM

40. Just worry about Hillary

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:56 PM

41. Same reason Mark Penn raided Clinton's coffers.

Contractual obligations.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:59 PM

42. Bernie's Bottom Line is more genuine and authentic.

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Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:06 PM

45. You are building up a tolerance for that hypocrisy and venom cocktail.

Drink more.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:09 PM

46. This post is pathetic.

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:17 PM

52. How does Sanders look these crowds in the eye, get on Clintons ass for making money in speeches, pay

 

ANYONE 830K a month.

How does he justify that? How does that mesh with the revolution? How is that anyway socialism?

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #52)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:55 PM

60. Because he does no such thing and the OP knows that.

 

So tired of this mean ass dishonesty infesting this place. I know the OP knows better, she's a UPM. She's not an idiot. She just plays one on DU.
Not so sure about her cheering section.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #60)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:01 PM

61. So you know for a fact he isn't getting paid that? I like fact. I have seen

 

He was getting paid that in more than one place.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #61)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 05:47 AM

70. It's nonsense. It's a payment that is then distributed to staff.

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:24 PM

56. DDS

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:38 PM

57. Do you have a credible link for all your "hot inside information"? Perhaps the National Enquirer

 


Thanks for nothing.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:03 PM

62. Your sudden concern about Bernie supporters is astounding.

Simple. Bernie still has a campaign to run, but he's winding it down in some places. Hence Tad's management is needed.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:03 PM

63. At least they were making $15/hr.... while Hillary's were unpaid.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #63)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:00 AM

65. Bingo.

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:52 AM

66. Campaigns are temporary by nature. I don't see a problem.

They might have been more diplomatic about it, but it's just a business decision.

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Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:55 AM

67. At least link to your source or self delete. Typical crap. Nt

 

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