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JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:25 PM Apr 2016

Why would Bernie fire low level staffers making $15/hr....

Instead of telling Tad Devine to take a pay cut less than the $830k/month he currently makes?

Former staffers said they were pissed because they were told they would be employed through June.

And its not just Tad, he had an army of consultants, ad agencies, and advisers that he spent almost $100 million on; more than 2x what Hillary has spent.

Even in his own campaign he couldnt stop all the money from going to the top 1%?

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Why would Bernie fire low level staffers making $15/hr.... (Original Post) JaneyVee Apr 2016 OP
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #1
Huh? Im asking simple questions. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #3
Your behavior disgusts me, and your mean-girl tactics turn me away from your candidate Android3.14 Apr 2016 #18
Dont get too worked up over an anonymous poster on the internet. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #22
he laid them off, and they are in many cases eligible for unemployment Baobab Apr 2016 #25
He gave a 10 day severance pay and had Jeff Weaver make the call. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #35
You are not on the same team Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #30
On the same team my ass! catnhatnh Apr 2016 #54
I'm not on the same team with someone who links to Stormfront QC Apr 2016 #53
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #58
I'm not on your team. You are plain nasty. 840high Apr 2016 #64
Well said. Desert805 Apr 2016 #27
I really can't imagine deciding for whom I will or will not vote based on someone cwydro Apr 2016 #55
Truth hurts, huh? Corporate666 Apr 2016 #68
You folks make every excuse under the sun for the Clinton's wealth, speaking fees, sham foundation.. whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #28
You've been as deliberately obnoxious as you can Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #43
Just the enjoyment of the taste! dchill Apr 2016 #47
Did this really come across as obnoxious? JaneyVee Apr 2016 #49
Does a bear shit in the woods? Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #51
Don't play coy. You work in an industry that is made almost entirely of short term Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #59
... onehandle Apr 2016 #4
Almost there! Lobster Sliders! JaneyVee Apr 2016 #38
Yeah: It's a pattern! Chasstev365 Apr 2016 #31
Same reason Clinton cut TV ads. Downwinder Apr 2016 #2
TV ad aren't people. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #5
Who do you think creates those ads? snowy owl Apr 2016 #7
How do you figure that? Downwinder Apr 2016 #11
People make them Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #32
You do lie, JaneyVee. Tad is a consultant who passes on the money to staffers - lots of them snowy owl Apr 2016 #6
Is that true? So what is Tads salary? JaneyVee Apr 2016 #8
Why don't you tell me? You are the one who claims to know... snowy owl Apr 2016 #10
The answer is yes. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #15
You don't understand your source, do you? Disbursements by payee: Devine Mulvey Longabaugh Inc snowy owl Apr 2016 #34
And wheres your source? JaneyVee Apr 2016 #39
I wouldn't count on her integrity byyiminy Apr 2016 #48
I'm sure Bernies donations have dropped off, at leat somewhat, since the beating napi21 Apr 2016 #9
That $15 is three dollars more than HRC supports for the minimum wage. guillaumeb Apr 2016 #12
And $15.00 more than HRC pays interns. Downwinder Apr 2016 #16
Very nice. guillaumeb Apr 2016 #33
He could have kept more employees for longer... Blanks Apr 2016 #20
Well, unfortunately ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #13
and we gladly paid it. snowy owl Apr 2016 #14
Do you have a breakdown ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #23
It's just the kind of thing... Blanks Apr 2016 #29
They basically funded the most expensive pre-book tour in history. nt onehandle Apr 2016 #19
I'm beginning to see why the HRC ignore-list is so long. snowy owl Apr 2016 #24
Why do you feel the need to insult Bernie supporters? GeorgeGist Apr 2016 #71
More important question - why does anyone care? Surely more important things to think about. Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #17
It's a legitimate question. Some folks were only getting $10/hr. Sanders' supporters really squirmed Hoyt Apr 2016 #21
Hoyt, what would you have done if you were him? It's a fair question. snowy owl Apr 2016 #26
I said it might be necessary, but he portrays himself as worker oriented. Hoyt Apr 2016 #37
As cold blooded as Hillary who uses unpaid interns? Kentonio Apr 2016 #69
It's as dumb as the "give bonuses instead of Clinton speech" crap. joshcryer Apr 2016 #50
This is so absurd. Like an HRC person cares. libdem4life Apr 2016 #36
Just worry about Hillary Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #40
Same reason Mark Penn raided Clinton's coffers. joshcryer Apr 2016 #41
Bernie's Bottom Line is more genuine and authentic. LuvLoogie Apr 2016 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Apr 2016 #44
You are building up a tolerance for that hypocrisy and venom cocktail. dchill Apr 2016 #45
This post is pathetic. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #46
How does Sanders look these crowds in the eye, get on Clintons ass for making money in speeches, pay seabeyond Apr 2016 #52
Because he does no such thing and the OP knows that. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #60
So you know for a fact he isn't getting paid that? I like fact. I have seen seabeyond Apr 2016 #61
It's nonsense. It's a payment that is then distributed to staff. Kentonio Apr 2016 #70
DDS frylock Apr 2016 #56
Do you have a credible link for all your "hot inside information"? Perhaps the National Enquirer imagine2015 Apr 2016 #57
Your sudden concern about Bernie supporters is astounding. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #62
At least they were making $15/hr.... while Hillary's were unpaid. Autumn Apr 2016 #63
Bingo. 840high Apr 2016 #65
Campaigns are temporary by nature. I don't see a problem. Lil Missy Apr 2016 #66
At least link to your source or self delete. Typical crap. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #67

Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
18. Your behavior disgusts me, and your mean-girl tactics turn me away from your candidate
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:39 PM
Apr 2016

I'm not kidding. Your behavior is offensive, lacking in grace, and counter-productive to promoting your candidate.

You will be one of the reasons Trump wins the general election. Not because folks like me would vote for Trump, but because I refuse to stand with people who behave like you.

You represent the most shameful aspects of the Clinton campaign.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
25. he laid them off, and they are in many cases eligible for unemployment
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:43 PM
Apr 2016

This is normal for campaigns, as he is shifting his focus to other states.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
30. You are not on the same team
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:47 PM
Apr 2016

With that vitriol. Why does Hillary make her people work for free when I am sure she has high paid people on her payroll. I hate the fucking hypocrisy of some of you people.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
54. On the same team my ass!
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:19 PM
Apr 2016

She and posters like her are why it is so important that people write in Bernie Sanders to show that no, they cannot make the Queen our only option.

QC

(26,371 posts)
53. I'm not on the same team with someone who links to Stormfront
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:18 PM
Apr 2016

in order to attack a Jewish candidate.

That's one of the most vile things I've seen in more than fifteen years on this site.

Response to JaneyVee (Reply #22)

Desert805

(392 posts)
27. Well said.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:44 PM
Apr 2016

So sick of the childish bullshit. Good lord.

There's plenty of info regarding Sanders paying his interns, paying local police, etc., which is fantastic, but the more bitter brained among us somehow turn it into this gross shit.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
55. I really can't imagine deciding for whom I will or will not vote based on someone
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:22 PM
Apr 2016

hurting my feelings on a message board.

Dude, read up on the issues. Choose based on the candidate, not on their supporters.

Dearie me.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
68. Truth hurts, huh?
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:23 AM
Apr 2016

I watched Bernie bash Jeff Immelt for having stuff made overseas and cutting jobs when it was expedient for him to do so. Bernie flamed him hard and suggested that GE had plenty money and didn't need to be laying people off.

Then he turns around AND DOES EXACTLY THE SAME THING!

Bernie has plenty of money, yet he pays peanuts. He promises people jobs then he drops them like hot potatoes as soon as they are no longer useful to him.

Meanwhile he pays his 1% very well and those guys never get a pay cut when there are lots of little guys whose pay can be cut.

Bernie is a hypocrite. Just another typical do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do politician flying around in charter jets, raking in lots of money and earning a great living and not doing anything to spread the wealth around.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
28. You folks make every excuse under the sun for the Clinton's wealth, speaking fees, sham foundation..
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:44 PM
Apr 2016

Consistent ethics and principles are not really a Hilfan thing, are they?

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
43. You've been as deliberately obnoxious as you can
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:05 PM
Apr 2016

possibly be. What exactly is your objective at this point?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
59. Don't play coy. You work in an industry that is made almost entirely of short term
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:51 PM
Apr 2016

employment for almost all people in that industry. At the end of a film, the crew is not fired the job simply ends and this is something you fucking know. So obnoxious? Yes and also wildly dishonest.
Also your bullshit about 800K in salary. You are a production accountant. You know that is a false statement. You know it is not honest. Obnoxious is the best of what your work on DU is.

The worst of it JV, is that you show massive disrespect for Hillary by doing the nasty things you do here and claiming it is for her that you do it. I can tell you this, I will not be volunteering if she's the nominee because I do not want to risk being around antisemitic bullies and other assorted snot box mean people that I see touting Hillary here on DU.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
7. Who do you think creates those ads?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:31 PM
Apr 2016

I think we should institute intelligence tests before allowed to vote.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
11. How do you figure that?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:34 PM
Apr 2016

TV ads are put out by Corporations. Corporations are people (I have that on the best of authorities).

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
6. You do lie, JaneyVee. Tad is a consultant who passes on the money to staffers - lots of them
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

Why so much spin on your posts and so little truth? I wonder how many people have you on the ignore list...

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
10. Why don't you tell me? You are the one who claims to know...
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:33 PM
Apr 2016

What's the link for your number? Or is out of your ass? I've seen what Bernie pays for his organization but not what he his own salary is. So I don't go spreading what I don't know around as fact.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
34. You don't understand your source, do you? Disbursements by payee: Devine Mulvey Longabaugh Inc
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:50 PM
Apr 2016

Devine Mulvey Longabaugh Inc 810,211.44

That is his consulting firm. The money is divided up among all the employees of that firm who worked on the campaign,

Now I wrote that really, really simple so you would understand it. I've seen that before and I thought you were referencing it. Now I know why HRC supporters default to smears because you really don't know how to read a disbursements spreadsheet.

You know what? I bet you go on to spread this lie even after I've explained it to you. And I bet I'm not the first. Now think about your own integrity.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
9. I'm sure Bernies donations have dropped off, at leat somewhat, since the beating
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:33 PM
Apr 2016

he took in the NE. For the first time he has to budget his expenses. The $15//hr staffers do important work for sure, but Tad is one of the key people keeping the campaign on track.

Anyone who works for any campaign knows it's a temporary job! Even if you work for the WINNER, most of the staff jobs will end.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
13. Well, unfortunately ...
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:36 PM
Apr 2016

... the money to fund an all-expenses-paid, private-jet getaway to Rome for Bernie's entire family had to come from somewhere - and the $27-per donors are such an easy mark.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
14. and we gladly paid it.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:38 PM
Apr 2016

Although as people who are informed know the trip did not come from campaign funds. I believe that is illegal.

Why do you post such crap?

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
24. I'm beginning to see why the HRC ignore-list is so long.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:42 PM
Apr 2016

Are you unable to post anything that isn't a smear? Really.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. It's a legitimate question. Some folks were only getting $10/hr. Sanders' supporters really squirmed
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:40 PM
Apr 2016

rationalizing that one, as well as Sanders acting like a corporatist slashing staff and breaking promises. I get it might have been necessary, but still hypocritical.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
26. Hoyt, what would you have done if you were him? It's a fair question.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:44 PM
Apr 2016

Also, what promises did he break?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
37. I said it might be necessary, but he portrays himself as worker oriented.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:52 PM
Apr 2016

He's as cold-blooded as a corporatist when it comes to who gets paid, who gets less than his campaign promise of $15/hr, how people are treated when laid off, etc. He should have figured out a better way to handle it.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
69. As cold blooded as Hillary who uses unpaid interns?
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 05:45 AM
Apr 2016

Or do moral questions only apply to one candidate?

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
50. It's as dumb as the "give bonuses instead of Clinton speech" crap.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:14 PM
Apr 2016

Sounds great in practise, but the real world doesn't work that way. CEOs don't poll their employees as to whether they'd prefer a bonus or listen to a speaker. And campaign consultants don't promise to take an income hit to benefit other campaign employees.

It's all dumb.

Would it be that the world worked that way.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
36. This is so absurd. Like an HRC person cares.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 09:52 PM
Apr 2016

And the "gotcha" is childish and the height of absurdity. My thought...stick to real issues, not
made up tripe.

Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
52. How does Sanders look these crowds in the eye, get on Clintons ass for making money in speeches, pay
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:17 PM
Apr 2016

ANYONE 830K a month.

How does he justify that? How does that mesh with the revolution? How is that anyway socialism?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
60. Because he does no such thing and the OP knows that.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:55 PM
Apr 2016

So tired of this mean ass dishonesty infesting this place. I know the OP knows better, she's a UPM. She's not an idiot. She just plays one on DU.
Not so sure about her cheering section.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
61. So you know for a fact he isn't getting paid that? I like fact. I have seen
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:01 PM
Apr 2016

He was getting paid that in more than one place.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
57. Do you have a credible link for all your "hot inside information"? Perhaps the National Enquirer
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 10:38 PM
Apr 2016

Thanks for nothing.

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
62. Your sudden concern about Bernie supporters is astounding.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:03 PM
Apr 2016

Simple. Bernie still has a campaign to run, but he's winding it down in some places. Hence Tad's management is needed.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
66. Campaigns are temporary by nature. I don't see a problem.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:52 AM
Apr 2016

They might have been more diplomatic about it, but it's just a business decision.

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