2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy would Bernie fire low level staffers making $15/hr....
Instead of telling Tad Devine to take a pay cut less than the $830k/month he currently makes?
Former staffers said they were pissed because they were told they would be employed through June.
And its not just Tad, he had an army of consultants, ad agencies, and advisers that he spent almost $100 million on; more than 2x what Hillary has spent.
Even in his own campaign he couldnt stop all the money from going to the top 1%?
Response to JaneyVee (Original post)
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JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Is there a reason Tad commands such a high salary?
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)I'm not kidding. Your behavior is offensive, lacking in grace, and counter-productive to promoting your candidate.
You will be one of the reasons Trump wins the general election. Not because folks like me would vote for Trump, but because I refuse to stand with people who behave like you.
You represent the most shameful aspects of the Clinton campaign.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)We're on each others team.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)This is normal for campaigns, as he is shifting his focus to other states.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)With that vitriol. Why does Hillary make her people work for free when I am sure she has high paid people on her payroll. I hate the fucking hypocrisy of some of you people.
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)She and posters like her are why it is so important that people write in Bernie Sanders to show that no, they cannot make the Queen our only option.
QC
(26,371 posts)in order to attack a Jewish candidate.
That's one of the most vile things I've seen in more than fifteen years on this site.
Response to JaneyVee (Reply #22)
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840high
(17,196 posts)Desert805
(392 posts)So sick of the childish bullshit. Good lord.
There's plenty of info regarding Sanders paying his interns, paying local police, etc., which is fantastic, but the more bitter brained among us somehow turn it into this gross shit.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)hurting my feelings on a message board.
Dude, read up on the issues. Choose based on the candidate, not on their supporters.
Dearie me.
Corporate666
(587 posts)I watched Bernie bash Jeff Immelt for having stuff made overseas and cutting jobs when it was expedient for him to do so. Bernie flamed him hard and suggested that GE had plenty money and didn't need to be laying people off.
Then he turns around AND DOES EXACTLY THE SAME THING!
Bernie has plenty of money, yet he pays peanuts. He promises people jobs then he drops them like hot potatoes as soon as they are no longer useful to him.
Meanwhile he pays his 1% very well and those guys never get a pay cut when there are lots of little guys whose pay can be cut.
Bernie is a hypocrite. Just another typical do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do politician flying around in charter jets, raking in lots of money and earning a great living and not doing anything to spread the wealth around.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Consistent ethics and principles are not really a Hilfan thing, are they?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)possibly be. What exactly is your objective at this point?
dchill
(38,465 posts)Venom! Mmmm...
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Im asking serious questions here.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)employment for almost all people in that industry. At the end of a film, the crew is not fired the job simply ends and this is something you fucking know. So obnoxious? Yes and also wildly dishonest.
Also your bullshit about 800K in salary. You are a production accountant. You know that is a false statement. You know it is not honest. Obnoxious is the best of what your work on DU is.
The worst of it JV, is that you show massive disrespect for Hillary by doing the nasty things you do here and claiming it is for her that you do it. I can tell you this, I will not be volunteering if she's the nominee because I do not want to risk being around antisemitic bullies and other assorted snot box mean people that I see touting Hillary here on DU.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)snowy owl
(2,145 posts)I think we should institute intelligence tests before allowed to vote.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)TV ads are put out by Corporations. Corporations are people (I have that on the best of authorities).
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)And people work at the stations airing them.
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Why so much spin on your posts and so little truth? I wonder how many people have you on the ignore list...
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)snowy owl
(2,145 posts)What's the link for your number? Or is out of your ass? I've seen what Bernie pays for his organization but not what he his own salary is. So I don't go spreading what I don't know around as fact.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Devine Mulvey Longabaugh Inc 810,211.44
That is his consulting firm. The money is divided up among all the employees of that firm who worked on the campaign,
Now I wrote that really, really simple so you would understand it. I've seen that before and I thought you were referencing it. Now I know why HRC supporters default to smears because you really don't know how to read a disbursements spreadsheet.
You know what? I bet you go on to spread this lie even after I've explained it to you. And I bet I'm not the first. Now think about your own integrity.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)So Devine firm couldnt take 600k that month to keep people employed?
byyiminy
(39 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)he took in the NE. For the first time he has to budget his expenses. The $15//hr staffers do important work for sure, but Tad is one of the key people keeping the campaign on track.
Anyone who works for any campaign knows it's a temporary job! Even if you work for the WINNER, most of the staff jobs will end.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)How many hours would a $15 an hour employee work to make $225,000?
Blanks
(4,835 posts)If he'd been paying $3/hour less.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... the money to fund an all-expenses-paid, private-jet getaway to Rome for Bernie's entire family had to come from somewhere - and the $27-per donors are such an easy mark.
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Although as people who are informed know the trip did not come from campaign funds. I believe that is illegal.
Why do you post such crap?
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... of where the money came from, if not campaign funds?
Blanks
(4,835 posts)That we hear about in the 'corporate media'
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-brings-family-trip-vatican/story?id=38416805
Here's an excerpt: "The trip was organized and paid for by Sanders campaign"
onehandle
(51,122 posts)snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Are you unable to post anything that isn't a smear? Really.
GeorgeGist
(25,318 posts)Nanjeanne
(4,935 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)rationalizing that one, as well as Sanders acting like a corporatist slashing staff and breaking promises. I get it might have been necessary, but still hypocritical.
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Also, what promises did he break?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)He's as cold-blooded as a corporatist when it comes to who gets paid, who gets less than his campaign promise of $15/hr, how people are treated when laid off, etc. He should have figured out a better way to handle it.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Or do moral questions only apply to one candidate?
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Sounds great in practise, but the real world doesn't work that way. CEOs don't poll their employees as to whether they'd prefer a bonus or listen to a speaker. And campaign consultants don't promise to take an income hit to benefit other campaign employees.
It's all dumb.
Would it be that the world worked that way.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)And the "gotcha" is childish and the height of absurdity. My thought...stick to real issues, not
made up tripe.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Contractual obligations.
LuvLoogie
(6,975 posts)Response to JaneyVee (Original post)
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dchill
(38,465 posts)Drink more.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)ANYONE 830K a month.
How does he justify that? How does that mesh with the revolution? How is that anyway socialism?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)So tired of this mean ass dishonesty infesting this place. I know the OP knows better, she's a UPM. She's not an idiot. She just plays one on DU.
Not so sure about her cheering section.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)He was getting paid that in more than one place.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Thanks for nothing.
aikoaiko
(34,165 posts)Simple. Bernie still has a campaign to run, but he's winding it down in some places. Hence Tad's management is needed.
Autumn
(45,042 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)They might have been more diplomatic about it, but it's just a business decision.