2016 Postmortem
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Hillary Clinton said, when asked about opponent Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)'s campaign, that it was "hard" to quit a race for the presidency.
CNN's "State of the Union" host Jake Tapper suggested to Clinton in an interview aired Sunday that she understands where Sanders is coming from in his reluctance to drop out of the race after now-President Obama beat her in in the primary process in 2008.
"It's hard, Jake. I mean you throw yourself in to these campaigns body and soul. You work 24/7," she said. " Your family, your supporters, everybody is so invested in trying to win, and I'm very proud of my campaign, grateful that I have such strong support but I absolutely understand that Senator Sanders has been a passionate advocate for positions that he cares deeply about. I think that's been helpful to the democratic primary process."
Clinton continued and noted that she has a larger lead over Sanders than Obama had over her in 2008. Clinton said she dropped out in '08 when she realized "the goal" of putting a Democrat in the White House.
She said she would be "very aggressive" in winning over Sanders' supporters. Sanders said that if Clinton won the nomination that she would have to win over his followers herself.
read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/clinton-hard-quit-race-white-house
"I consider myself as someone who's on the path, and obviously I'm very far ahead in both the popular vote and the delegate count, so I think the path leads to the nomination," Clinton said on CNN's "State of the Union."
"But, you know, I'm going to keep competing."
"But there comes a time where you have to look at the reality," she continued.
"In fact, in '08 I was much closer in both popular vote and pledged delegates to Sen. Obama than is the case right now, but eventually I just decided that I had to withdraw and support Sen. Obama because the goal was to make sure we had a Democrat in the White House."
Clinton said she "looks forward" to working with Sanders in the lead-up to the convention, adding she was "pleased" when Sanders said he's going to work tirelessly to ensure Trump is not the nominee.
"I really welcome his ideas and his supporters, passion and commitment, because the most important thing for us is to win in November," she said.
"There is no more important goal."
read: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278308-clinton-i-look-forward-to-working-with-sanders-ahead-of
Renew Deal
(81,846 posts)bigtree
(85,975 posts)...waiting in the wings like the heir apparent to the nom.
Sanders' position is an amazing regression from his 'revolution' against the party establishment; expecting to woo party establishment insiders to overturn the will of the voters to advance him over his rival's lead in votes and delegates.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)running as a candidate, worked as hard as SOS as she would have as president, a solid team these two have. They may disagreements but always emerge understanding the issue and working together.
aikoaiko
(34,162 posts)I don't think Hillary can offer Bernie anything.
bigtree
(85,975 posts)...the SoS offer came months after she mended fences with Barack Obama - executing her outreach a mere 4 days after the voting ended that summer.
aikoaiko
(34,162 posts)VP, SOS and other positions were up for grabs, but she had to play nice immediately to be considered.
bigtree
(85,975 posts)...this kind of thing isn't what I'm here for.
Blocking.
aikoaiko
(34,162 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)aikoaiko
(34,162 posts)And it would have sent the message that Obama considered her qualified to be POTUS.
Look at the polling for Biden when he wasn't even running.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)later, Johnson was VP to Kennedy and then took over after Kennedy was assassinated so these are two unusual examples. The only true VP to President was Bush unless you go back to Truman. All the other VP's who ran did not follow their presidents to the office.
bigtree
(85,975 posts)...I think Bernie Sanders may be smart enough to pull it together, in the end.
Platform fights don't need to be contingent on support for the nominee and I hope he can get to that mending and supporting when the voting's done.
BootinUp
(47,078 posts)I am just not sure he has what it takes.
bigtree
(85,975 posts)...he has what it takes; question is when he's likely to do the right thing.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Bernie staying in the race or not or endorsing you or not has no bearing on the decision of many people to support you or not. People weren't begging for him to run... he stepped in to fill a void. That support is not guaranteed to transfer to you. You mistake the cult-like devotion of your groupies for the political motivations of all people.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I've been told that Clinton supporters are not enthusiastic. Now we have "cult-like deovtion." Which bullshit story am I supposed to believe this week?
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)But hey, bypass the point. It's Okay. I need to prepare my human sacrifice for Hillary.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)adulation) and enthusiasm. Over a million people came out to rallies held by Sanders all across the country. As stated above, to fill a void that the conservative wing of our party lacks. They do not support the culture of corruption that Clinton has so well represented. Good grief the banksters carry sacks of gold to her bank. And her fans try to claim that quid pro quo applies to everyone but her.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Do you think they will like you? Hate to tell you but they are using you. They like profits and not helping the poor.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Sanders' more ardent supporters have been some of the most smug, self-righteous advocates I've ever seen.
Do what you want, but personally, I've had enough of the self-serving bullshit from those folks.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)and didnt decide until end of May with his official announcement.
He literally waited to see if he had support.
http://inthesetimes.com/article/17572/bernie_sanders_president
Then he ran Dem because he knew he didn't have the backing to get elected as an Independent.
aikoaiko
(34,162 posts)Really, I watched the interview and her tone and facial expressions were hideous.
bigtree
(85,975 posts)...as opposed to the balking from the Sanders camp, right now.
Hopefully Hillary will find the same comity extended to her, as her own outreach and support efforts toward her 2008 rival at the end of their primary were received by Barack Obama.
aikoaiko
(34,162 posts)I think not.
bigtree
(85,975 posts)...of an action by Obama (which never happened) which doesn't sound legal, much less ethical.
You need some evidence to back up your spamming of that charge.
aikoaiko
(34,162 posts)I'll wait.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)bigtree
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...man, that sounds really bitter.
frylock
(34,825 posts)For shame.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
joshcryer
(62,265 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)and she will roll back the Patriot Act and cut defense spending and close Gitmo. And close the Prisons For Profits. How about she tells us, because that's all this is is her "telling us" that she has had a change of heart and will support helping those living with pain with medical marijuana. Oh and she is for a $12.99 min wage.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)Last edited Sun May 1, 2016, 12:38 PM - Edit history (1)
and "earn" the votes of Sanders supporters. That's is according to the many, many posts I've seen on DU.
If Hillary moves toward the left , she a liar who is acting, if she doesn't she's a corporate sell out who doesn't deserve your vote because she hasn't earned" it.
Sounds like a catch 22 from sore losers who now want butt kissing from the winner.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)And I notice that you are one of the new army of low post Clinton supporters. Wow, it seems the more I put on ignore the more that "join". Full ignore for you
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)to be perpetually outraged at her. It's a skill they perfected after 8 years of being perpetually outraged at Obama.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)joshcryer
(62,265 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)I too believe that Sanders has a right to stay until the last vote has been cast. I only hope that he can then support Hillary just as much as she supported Obama in 2008.
Dysfunctional as we may be, Democrats are a family and we have to keep an eye on the brass ring. I can't even imagine what a disaster a Trump presidency would be for the country.
joshcryer
(62,265 posts)...that they actually want him to be a pathetic spoil support, be less unifying than Clinton in 2008, and overall lose every bit of integrity he has.
Of course, they are setting themselves up for complete disappointment. But that's not too surprising. Every time Sanders walked back some rhetoric, apologized, withdrew the lawsuit, the bitterness increased. We're approaching a point where nothing less than a coup would satisfy these faux Sanders "supporters." Within a few weeks he will be under the bus with the rest of the Democratic party.