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SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:07 PM May 2016

When Secretary Clinton runs in the General Election, will 'age' become an issue again?

One of the things I noticed during the Primaries ... when Secretary Clinton announced her candidacy, one of the first things we heard the talking heads concern troll over was her age. Going so far as to even tell us lies that she would be the oldest President when first sworn into office (Reagan will still hold that distinction, even when Secretary Clinton is sworn into office in January of 2017).

But then Bernie Sanders happened, a person who is more than 6 years older than Secretary Clinton ... and since then, we've rarely heard a word about the candidates and their age. Why is that? Now that it's clear that Secretary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee ... will the media fall back on their narrative that Secretary Clinton is too old, again?

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When Secretary Clinton runs in the General Election, will 'age' become an issue again? (Original Post) SFnomad May 2016 OP
The likely Republican candidate is just as old. It's hard to spin that. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #1
I hear ya ... but that doesn't mean the media won't try ... somehow n/t SFnomad May 2016 #3
Maybe they can get Geritol to sponsor the debates. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #6
Trump is male and older with a shorter average life expectancy. Did I clear that up for you ? Trust Buster May 2016 #2
Trump hasn't won it yet ... and if he doesn't get a clear majority, it's very possible he won't get SFnomad May 2016 #7
When Trump wins Indiana, the media will consider him the presumptive nominee. Actually, after Trust Buster May 2016 #12
Donald Trump is older than Clinton frazzled May 2016 #4
Her age as an issue against this guy? RandySF May 2016 #5
I just posted something about him to someone else SFnomad May 2016 #11
They would not talk about her age if she were a man RandySF May 2016 #15
By "When" You Mean "IF" srobert May 2016 #8
Snap out of it ... I mean WHEN. She will be the nominee. n/t SFnomad May 2016 #13
Eggs Are Not Chickens srobert May 2016 #19
You can be in denial all you want ... doesn't mean I have to be there with you n/t SFnomad May 2016 #20
She's looking quite healthy and strong right now. Hoyt May 2016 #9
Not against Trump. Buzz Clik May 2016 #10
Her age has never been any of my issues with her. hobbit709 May 2016 #14
media is totally pro clinton, trump is older oldandhappy May 2016 #16
Isn't The Donald 70? Or is that concern only for lady-age? Hekate May 2016 #17
Unstated ... that was part of what I was getting at, there are two possibilities SFnomad May 2016 #18
The GOPers will throw all kinds of shit at the fan, it's what sticks with their simplistic base. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #21
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
7. Trump hasn't won it yet ... and if he doesn't get a clear majority, it's very possible he won't get
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:14 PM
May 2016

the nomination.

So there will be several months the media can concern troll about it and hypothesize about a Cruz candidacy. Have I cleared that up for you?

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
12. When Trump wins Indiana, the media will consider him the presumptive nominee. Actually, after
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:17 PM
May 2016

blowing out his rivals last Tuesday in 5 states, the media has already accepted the obvious.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
4. Donald Trump is older than Clinton
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:12 PM
May 2016

So no. Although, imo, they're all a bit old. Anyone older than me is old, and they're all older than me (though not by much). It's not about knowledge or mental ability; it's just that it's an exhausting job.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
11. I just posted something about him to someone else
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:16 PM
May 2016

Even though tRump is the clear leader, if he doesn't get the nomination on the first ballot, there is a good possibility the RNC will snatch the nomination from him. So this will leave a couple of months for the media to concern troll over Secretary Clinton's age.

And even if tRump is the nominee ... I just wonder if the media can (((spin))) things to make Secretary Clinton's age (even though she is younger) and issue, without doing the same to tRump.

RandySF

(58,687 posts)
15. They would not talk about her age if she were a man
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016

That said, I really don't think they will go there.

 

srobert

(81 posts)
8. By "When" You Mean "IF"
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:14 PM
May 2016

The final out in the ball game hasn't happened yet. It is still mathematically possible that Bernie Sanders will be the nominee. Unlikely, but possible. Age would not be an issue to his supporters. Why would it be for Mrs. Clinton, if she should become the nominee. No, it will not be an issue either way.

 

srobert

(81 posts)
19. Eggs Are Not Chickens
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:40 PM
May 2016

We will Admit Defeat IF and When we are defeated and not one second before that.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
18. Unstated ... that was part of what I was getting at, there are two possibilities
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:22 PM
May 2016

Clinton v. tRump - Will they go after lady-age only?

Clinton v. Cruz - Will they go after her age, even through tRump would have been a little older and Sanders would have been well older.

TheBlackAdder

(28,179 posts)
21. The GOPers will throw all kinds of shit at the fan, it's what sticks with their simplistic base.
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:56 PM
May 2016

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While age will play to the stupid crowd, they are more prone to buy into misogyny and anything else.
These types of people would be unreachable anyway, so regardless of the tactics, they are unmovable.



Gender will be leading an and most interesting dynamic, more so than age.


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45% of women (evangelicals, orthodox, etc.) are against the ERA, and believe in a paternalistic society.

So, one question is how many of them could actually be swayed to hop the fence?


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While a lot of men claim feminist leanings, deep down many hold on to paternalistic thoughts too.
Watch for people who comment about looks, wrinkles, clothing, tone of voice as an indicator.
I see a few here who exhibit these tricks, with HRC and SBS--any use indicates conservative (little c) thoughts.

How many of the Dems will hop the fence to vote for a male, purely out of this dynamic?


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It would be nice if folks steered over to Rutgers-Eagleton's Center for American Woman and Politics for the day.
It is the only university that specializes in the dynamics of women in politics.

http://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/


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