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Firebirds01

(576 posts)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:02 AM Oct 2012

What the heck is up with Rasmussen?!?

I check RCP and every poll has Obama up in Ohio except Rasmussen.

Same with the following swing states:

Wisconsin
New Hampshire
Iowa
Colorado
Virginia


Are these guys party hacks? I thought they were reliable. They seem to be quoted often.

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What the heck is up with Rasmussen?!? (Original Post) Firebirds01 Oct 2012 OP
Why yes, yes they are party hacks. WI_DEM Oct 2012 #1
Somebody.... mzteaze Oct 2012 #2
Used to be the Fox News/Rasmussen Poll. timlot Oct 2012 #3
Really..... Firebirds01 Oct 2012 #7
Fox dropped them b/c they were not accurate. nt woolldog Oct 2012 #12
Rasmussen is a fraud, he tells the GOP what they want to hear Hawaii Hiker Oct 2012 #4
Where have you been? fugop Oct 2012 #5
Scott Rasmussen John2 Oct 2012 #6
Definitely hacks. But by showing a narrow Romney margin... pointsoflight Oct 2012 #8
The ONLY One That IMO Matters SoFlaJet Oct 2012 #9
All Robo-calls and only done on a Sunday 20895DEM Oct 2012 #10
Rasmussen is a robo poller, as is PPP and Survey USA. Rasmussen's issues are Jennicut Oct 2012 #11
which pollsters weight by Party ID? woolldog Oct 2012 #13
Nothing wrong at all. Bleacher Creature Oct 2012 #14
It's part of their business model and marketing strategy. gravity Oct 2012 #15
What's odd about Rasmussen today TroyD Oct 2012 #16
He's starting the move towards the real results blazeKing Oct 2012 #17
He's not a pollster. He's an entertainer catering to a particular market. n/t Azathoth Oct 2012 #18
 

John2

(2,730 posts)
6. Scott Rasmussen
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:19 AM
Oct 2012

has gone all in for Romney this cycle. The difference is, he has very unknown new Republican Pollsters like Gravis Marketing to support his numbers. It seems they all work in concert. I think Axelrod is right on target. We will know what is there on Election day. My prediction is the biggest fraud they are pretending about my own home state. The only Polls all cycle showing North Carolina is not a tossup throughout the cycle are mostly or all Republican Pollsters. Public Policy Polling even though they lean Democratic has got to be very incompetent to show all 28 of their Polls a tossup in North Carolina. They have done the most Polling in North Carolina and all of them are consistent. I think they have got it right. North Carolina is probably the closest swing state of all and no candidate has a significant lead in the state. It depends on turnout.

pointsoflight

(1,372 posts)
8. Definitely hacks. But by showing a narrow Romney margin...
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:31 AM
Oct 2012

...they're just going to help us GOTV.

20895DEM

(104 posts)
10. All Robo-calls and only done on a Sunday
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:46 AM
Oct 2012

No live calls
Sunday (people are either at church or watching football)
No internal cross-tabs so I am unclear if these are all +50 year old

The only number that seems consistent is the early voting split. Thus far I have seen the following over multiple weeks and multiple pollsters

Percent voted 11% 18% 21% 23% 26% 26% 36% 32%
Obama 59% 57% 66% 54% 58% 58% 63% 62%
Romney 39% 38% 34% 39% 39% 32% 36% 36%

Obama E.V. Adv. 20% 19% 32% 15% 19% 26% 27% 26%
Election Adv. 2.20% 3.42% 6.72% 3.45% 4.94% 6.76% 9.72% 8.32%

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
11. Rasmussen is a robo poller, as is PPP and Survey USA. Rasmussen's issues are
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:32 PM
Oct 2012

with party ID in the OH poll. Showing it even when almost every other Ohio poll show it with Dems having a slight advantage to more like 2008 (D+8).
They also do a Party ID screen per month for the tracking poll. Most pollsters to it every time they poll if they weight by party ID. And Repubs talk about pollsters cooking the books for Dem-friendly polls. They take the cake on it.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
13. which pollsters weight by Party ID?
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:35 PM
Oct 2012

The only one I know of is Rasmussen.

It's not an acceptable practice, AFAIK

gravity

(4,157 posts)
15. It's part of their business model and marketing strategy.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:11 PM
Oct 2012

If you are the only poll quoted by right wing media, then you get all that traffic to yourself.

Their main challenge is to make sure that they seem scientific enough for the mainstream media to take them seriously too.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
16. What's odd about Rasmussen today
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:33 PM
Oct 2012

Is that he showed a decline for Romney nationally for the second day in a row, and yet somehow Romney went up in Ohio.

Romney went from (+4) nationally on Saturday to (+3) on Sunday down to (+2) today.

Meanwhile Romney supposedly went up 2 points in Ohio.

 

blazeKing

(329 posts)
17. He's starting the move towards the real results
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:35 PM
Oct 2012

Which is Obama leading. So he can still claim after the election that he was the most accurate.

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