"In some ways Sanders contradicted himself during the press conference."

[pnwmom]

And not for the first time.

He supports the concept of super-delegates making up their own minds -- but only as long as they vote for him.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-clinton-faces-contested-convention/story?id=38803835

"If I win a state with 70 percent of the votes you know what, I think I'm entitled to those super delegates. I think that the super delegates should reflect what the people in the state want," he said.

Sanders called on super delegates from states like Washington and Minnesota specifically, where he beat Clinton by double-digit margins, to change their allegiances.

In some ways Sanders contradicted himself during the press conference. He argued that super delegates should follow the popular vote from the states they represent, but also said they should consider backing him even if he does not win the majority of pledged delegates. His campaign distributed factsheets Sunday showing general election polling in battleground states and nationwide where he outperforms his opponent against Republican candidates.

&quot Super delegates) are going to have to go into their hearts and they are going to have to ask themselves do they want the second strongest candidate running against Trump or the strongest candidate?" Sanders said.

[bettyellen]

1. I am shocked, I tell you. He's not happy he is losing.

[silvershadow]

2. Don't hate the player, hate the game. He is entitled to use the same rules we all agreed on, and

if it takes using those rules to pound it into some heads as to why it is screwed up, so be it. He is the only morally sound candidate in the race. And he's fighting like hell to change things. PS: Corporations are NOT people, and should not be voting as Supers.

[pnwmom]

3. He's contradicting himself on those rules. If he's "entitled" to the super delegates in the

states that voted for him, then she's "entitled" to the many MORE super-delegates in the heavily populated, diverse states that voted for her.

And that means he's trying to go after the super-delegates he's already claimed she's "entitled" to.

There is nothing "morally sound" about his position.

[silvershadow]

4. No one said entitled except your side. He simply laid out his case. Did you even bother to

watch the presser and listen? Just curious...

[pnwmom]

6. Did you bother to read the text? Bernie himself used the word "entitled":

"If I win a state with 70 percent of the votes you know what, I think I'm entitled to those super delegates. I think that the super delegates should reflect what the people in the state want," he said.

And, yes, I did hear him say it in the press conference. I don't know why you couldn't hear it or read it. Strange.

[silvershadow]

11. Well I believe he was referring to those Supers who are planning to vote against the wishes of

their constituents.

[pnwmom]

16. But he's also asking supers in states that voted for Hillary to consider voting for him instead.

Why isn't Hillary "entitled" to all those delegates on the same basis Bernie feels that he is?

[silvershadow]

17. Watch the video. No need querying me, when he has laid out his case so poignantly.

See you at convention.

[pnwmom]

18. I watched it. He laid out an illogical case. n/t

[asuhornets]

23. He also stated he is running against the Democratic Establishment, but

he also wants Democratic Establishment to award him with the superdelegates in his preferred states. Hypocritical..

[LiberalFighter]

42. Yep

He wants the rules changed for the nomination. And he wants only him to benefit from the rules. He fights the establishment when the establishment is what prevents chaos. Chaos that he is agitating.

[Adrahil]

13. Sure.

He can. But it is hypocritical to call for one thing then actively pursue another. If he wants to say he'd like to see the party move away from SD's, but that until then he'll do what he has to to get the nomination, I'd respect that. But to say one set of delegates should support him because HE won the vote, and the others should vote him because... REASONS is well.... yeah.

[silvershadow]

14. And yet... nt

[Armstead]

22. No, he has also said very clearly in states where she won a clear victory they should vote for her

He is referring to the states where the vote was close

[silvershadow]

24. Exactly. nt

[Adrahil]

28. Did you hear his answer to the question at the end?

He pretty clearly stated that he wanted to flip enough SD's to win, EVEN IF she has a pledge delegate lead. If she has the pledged delegate lead, she will also had an SD lead. The only way he can win if he is behind in pledged delegates is to get SD's in states that she won to vote for him. Otherwise his answer is meaningless.

[Armstead]

32. I heard him on Face the Nation

He said what I said.

In states where one or the other had a large majority, the SD's should go with the winner.

In states where it was a smaller margin, he hopoes some will take another look.

Doesn't mean he is likely to flip any, but ya never what will happen between now and then.

[dsc]

33. then he would lose

I didn't watch the presser but from what I am reading he is stating both that the ones from states he won by large margins (WA and Minnesota) should vote for him and that most of the rest should since he is doing better in general election polls. I don't think he said those in TX, FL, FA, TN, LA, MS, GA, SC should vote for her (all states that she won by margins as large as those he won WA and Minnesota by)

[Armstead]

35. I stand by what I said because I heard him say it

You may be correct. Probably are. But any number of changes in the calculations could occur between now and then. When he started he was supposed to be a Dennis Kucinich and only garner a tiny fraction of the votes.

He's trying to pull off a win or make a strong enough showing to influence policy and platform. That's what candidates do.

[Demsrule86]

38. He is ruining that which made him different supposedly

Ethics and all that stuff...it was not true...ethical people don't try to disenfranchise millions of voters.

[Spacedog1973]

5. I think his plan involves the SuperDuperDelegates and the Ultra Turbo Delegates. Damn, its gonna

be close!

[DLCWIdem]

7. you only just noticed this now...

Sanders has been toting this for months since before WI. Its the reason I selected Clinton instead of him. He has been a hypocrite for months saying that superdelegates should overturn the will of the voters even if Clinton had more votes. Seeing that her demographics are minorities and women I guess you can see who is being disenfranchised. He has also tring to overturn pledge delegates in the caucaus states who are supposed to be representing thier voters. In other words, pulling a Ted Cruz. I was literally sick that I was thinking of voting for him.

[pnwmom]

8. No. This piece was just written now, because he keeps doing it. I'm glad the writer pointed it out.

Welcome to DU, by the way.

[DLCWIdem]

21. thank you for the welcome

[LuvLoogie]

9. It's amazing! He keeps coming up with more ways to lose.

How does he do it?

[KingFlorez]

10. He's starting to sound silly

[DLCWIdem]

12. you should look at the actual votes

You should go look on wikipedia at the DNC primaries you might be quite shocked. Yea he won those caucaus states but look at the actual difference in votes between them. For example, say he won a caucaus state by 80% which was a difference of only 12,000 votes. While she won Illinois by 1 1/2% which was a difference of 35,000 votes. Check it out you will be surprised.

[pnwmom]

15. No, I wouldn't be surprised. As a resident of WA I am aware of how few voters participated

in our caucuses and how low our population is compared to many states.

And WA was the biggie in that string of wins Bernie had.

[DLCWIdem]

26. wa caucaus

I heard about that caucaus from another site. The poster said it went on for 5 hours and there was food and drinks ordered for Sanders supporters while Clinton's supporters had to go without all night. I just have to say i really admire your dedication to democracy. I did not want to stand in line so I voted early. I finally decided the Friday before the primary here in WI.

[pnwmom]

37. Mine was in the morning. I don't know about the others.

But there was no food or drink for anyone, and it went on for hours. Way too much effort required to vote.

[WhiteTara]

19. Does that mean that Raul Grijvala should change his vote

and vote for Clinton? I mean, fair's fair.

[IamMab]

27. Erin Bilbray from Nevada has also gone on record that she won't change her vote to Clinton, despite

how Clinton won the NV primary. So it really is a bunch of do-as-I-say-not-as-I do from a failed hippie trying to relive his glory days.

Go home, Bernie. You're drunk.

[Thinkingabout]

30. Have a point here, Clinton clearly won Arizona. The super delegates

Do not make their decision based on the results of a state. This is another smoking gun which has fizzled.

[Armstead]

20. Misinterpretation by you or them...not sure which

He also said that Super Delegates from states where he got soundly beat should obviously vote for Clinton.

He was referring to delegates from states where the margin was close, and that he hopes they would reconsider -- especially the ones who committed before or in the very early days of the primary.

[onenote]

25. if 100 percent of the super delegates in the states that a candidate won by double digits

are awarded to that candidate, Clinton would have 286 of the super delegates and Sanders would have 130 (less than half her total).

I kinda doubt that is what he was going for.

[Agnosticsherbet]

29. Sanders is trying to convince his followers that he hasn't lost.

[Thinkingabout]

31. There you go, more fund raising, his donations has gone down.

[Agnosticsherbet]

34. The drop in donations is a big indicator of where people see his campaign going.

[Thinkingabout]

36. Yes.

[Demsrule86]

39. Fundraising is down...

needs money.

[Agnosticsherbet]

40. He has been outspending Clinton and still losing.

[Demsrule86]

41. Indeed

I almost feel sorry for him...if I did not hear the crappy stuff he said.

[NurseJackie]

43. "Nobody accessed the data ... except for the four who did ..."

"But other than that ... NOBODY!"

I'm seeing a pattern here.