Hey does anyone know offhand how many Corporations are Superdelegates offhand?

[silvershadow]

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I'm just curious. Isn't interesting that they now have voting rights in our "democracy" ?

[Hoyt]

1. None, and they don't have voting rights even under cruddy Citizens United.

About 70 of superdelegates are also lobbyists, including those for civil rights groups, environmentalists, women's rights, unions, etc.

Hope that helps.

[LiberalFighter]

4. That number is high.

Especially when including unions. Nearly all of them are just leaders or activists. It is likely that the number is 6 or less matching the number of states nearby that is easy travel to DC. Spots open for each state would likely be limited to one as those positions are limited.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

2. None?

here is a list of SD

it's color coded for your convenience

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016

[tokenlib]

3. Corporate lobbyists are close enough, thank you .....

...in other words, too many...

[silvershadow]

5. Which was, of course, my point...Thank you for being aware enough to understand. :D nt

[tokenlib]

8. You have a good point..

It annoys me when people know damn well what someone means to say, and decide to be nitpicky because they are not on your side of an issue..

[sadoldgirl]

6. If former presidents are included, I wonder

where Jimmy Carter's vote end up.

[Agnosticsherbet]

7. Link to the super delegate list with not one corporation.

http://superdelegatelist.com/list

[silvershadow]

9. But there are Registered Corporate Lobbyists, right? nt

[onenote]

10. And registered lobbyists for union, environmental organizations, etc etc.

[silvershadow]

12. See the problem yet? nt

[onenote]

13. as someone who has lobbied for gun control, not really.

[silvershadow]

14. It is more than unseemly. nt

[onenote]

15. its unseemly for politically active members of a party

who financially support the party, in some instances have represented the party in elections, to be involved in the selection of the party's candidate?

Agree to disagree.

[silvershadow]

16. I draw a clear line for registered lobbyists. I can't trust they don't have an agenda.

For obvious reasons.

[silvershadow]

21. There are other ways, too, to come at this....maybe we can make a distinction between

it this way: Union lobbyists can be in, since they represent people who have a voting voice (ostensibly) in our democracy. Corporate lobbyists cannot, since they aren't people as defined by voting law.

Social service organizations can have lobbyists as delegates, because they represent people who can vote. Corporate lobbyists cannot, since they aren't people, as defined by voting law.

etc.

The day corporations gain the right to vote is the only day I deem acceptable for them to have their lobbyists as voting members in our convention, due to conflict potential conflicts of interests,- and due to the mere possibility of a non-person entity gaining undue position with our democracy being so important it must be codified.

That is my position, and I now present it to whichever delegates my be here or lurking. Anyone is welcome to chime in with thoughts. But let us talk this out and see where it really goes...THat' what the primary is for! And we ARE still in a primary.

[onenote]

24. Some people represent both for profits and non profits, or unions and corporations

I'm not sure that line drawing works.

The key to me is whether they have made a significant contribution, in time, in money, in other ways, to the Democratic Party. That's what should be the primary qualifying factor to be a super delegate, if we're going to have super delegates.

[Dragonfli]

28. "The key to me is whether they have made a significant contribution, in time, in money"

So one of the keys to qualify as a super delegate is to buy your way in?

I guess there will be many Banker and fossil fuel execs that "take the time to make significant donations", that will soon (if not already) be voting as such superpowered delegates, votes I might add that are equivalent to the votes of thousands of regular voters (every delegate superman ones or not represent thousands of citizen votes)

Nice sweet deal for an oligarchy in the making.

[onenote]

31. Elections cost money. I know you know that.

Helping to raise money for Democratic candidates is a legitimate factor in picking super delegates, if there are going to are going to be super delegates. Not the only factor.

[Agnosticsherbet]

11. There are no corporation on the list, so your statements lacks accuracy.

[silvershadow]

18. My thinking is expounded upon upthread. nt

[Agnosticsherbet]

20. There are no corporations, so your original statement is wrong.

Expounding doesn't add a single corporation.

[silvershadow]

22. Read it again. I expanded again. Your failure to read it does not make it better, rather it

is decidedly unhelpful to the conversation during this primary, which goes on.

[bjo59]

26. 67 currently or formerly registered corporate lobbyists,

according to ABC. Zero Hedge claims that known lobbyists make up 9% of the superdelegates.

http://truthinmedia.com/report-lobbyists-among-democratic-superdelegates/

[Agnosticsherbet]

29. But they are not corporations, as was asked in the OP.

I will stick with the goal post set by the original OP.

[leftofcool]

17. None and Google is your friend.

[silvershadow]

19. My thinking is expounded upon upthread. nt

[Dragonfli]

23. According to ABC news 67 lobbyists will attend the convention as superdelegates

In fact, when you remove elected officials from the superdelegate pool, at least one in seven of the rest are former or current lobbyists registered on the federal and state level, according to lobbying disclosure records.

That’s at least 67 lobbyists who will attend the convention as superdelegates. A majority of them have already committed to supporting Hillary Clinton for the nomination.

And 41 lobbyist superdelegates, almost six in 10 of all lobbyist superdelegates, have already committed to supporting Clinton.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/reason-dozens-lobbyists-democratic-presidential-delegates/story?id=37289507

[silvershadow]

25. So then, the premise I floated upthread has turned out the be absolutely true, and it took

40 minutes to find it out. Those 67 delegates, if they support her already over Clinton, before the convention is even held, are choosing the Third Way Corporate agenda over the people's agenda. My point has been proven. It is a rot in the system.

[Kittycat]

30. And how many "advisors" like Dean?

[Gomez163]

32. Lets see that socialist try to woo those lobbyists

[Dragonfli]

33. You are correct, the outright purchased delegates have already been bought and and paid for. /nt

[KingFlorez]

27. What are superdeleates?

Some new villains out to get Sanders?