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NobodyInParticular

(102 posts)
Mon May 2, 2016, 12:53 AM May 2016

Did Hillary get a boost in her ratings thanks to Charles Koch?

When Charles Koch answered the question by ABC Correspondent Jonathan Karl if "...it is possible that another Clinton could be better than another Republican this time around?" and Koch replied "It's possible, it's possible" it was clear from the get-go that Koch's endorsement was little more than a vague hint if anything. When Hillary was asked to respond to Koch's hint as an actual suggestion he might endorse her, her response that she’s “not interested in endorsements from people who deny climate science and try to make it harder for people to vote” was music to the ears of many an undecided voter in the April 23 Democratic primaries. http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/24/politics/charles-koch-hillary-clinton-2016/

To a hard-core political conspiracy theorist it would make total sense that there could have been a stage-setting super-secret meeting between Koch's political strategic operatives (persons who orchestrated the rise of the Tea Party) and members of Clinton's campaign staff. If this were indeed the case, it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to have this come to light, let alone to prove. In my estimate, it is much more likely that the cue for Hillary's answer came as a part of clandestine wink and nod communications.

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Did Hillary get a boost in her ratings thanks to Charles Koch? (Original Post) NobodyInParticular May 2016 OP
since only hard core political junkies know who he is, the answer is likely no nt msongs May 2016 #1
Years ago the Koch brothers were obscure to the point NobodyInParticular May 2016 #3
This is the correct answer. NurseJackie May 2016 #6
Cross-party support CobaltBlue May 2016 #2
Why? Because he hates Hillary slightly less than he hates Trump? Lucinda May 2016 #4
You left out some key points in that interview... VOX May 2016 #5

NobodyInParticular

(102 posts)
3. Years ago the Koch brothers were obscure to the point
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:39 AM
May 2016

where only the sharpest of initiates knew who they were. Nowadays all it takes is for viewers to watch the Bernie-Hillary debates: Bernie has been mentioning them time and again (I don't believe Hillary has ever mentioned the name Koch), and network political trackers pay close attention to what audiences google while watching debates.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
4. Why? Because he hates Hillary slightly less than he hates Trump?
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:48 AM
May 2016

His money may buy ads that influence poorly informed voters, but his interviews probably mean nothing to most people.
The only reason this hit the news at all is because of his long term fight against Hillary.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
5. You left out some key points in that interview...
Mon May 2, 2016, 02:56 AM
May 2016
http://www.snopes.com/koch-brothers-officially-endorse-hillary-clinton/

When pushed...about whether he could see himself supporting Hillary Clinton, Koch hesitated, “Well... we would have to believe her actions will be quite different from her rhetoric, let’s put it that way."

<snip>

Hillary Clinton responded to the interview the next day, tweeting that she’s “not interested in endorsements from people who deny climate science and try to make it harder for people to vote.”

Although social media lit up immediately after the “This Week” interview with the “news” that the Koch brothers had endorsed Hillary Clinton, that would be a gross overstatement. While Charles Koch slightly opened the door to future support of Clinton’s candidacy during the ABC interview, his barely-lukewarm acknowledgement of the possibility and immediate hedging qualifications to their future support could hardly be construed as an endorsement.
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