Bernie Sanders is delusional.

[boston bean]

A contested convention??? Give me a break! First vote Hillary will have enough delegates to prevent any second vote. THERE WILL NEVER BE A CONTESTED CONVENTION THIS YEAR! This is a public service announcement.

This whole idea is ludicrous, unrealistic, and delusional. Get off that train and don't send any more $$$, would be my advice.

[Agschmid]

1. ...

He is mistaken, delusional us a bit OTT in my mind.

[bigtree]

5. how about 'full of shit?'

...Sanders and his surrogates must know how unlikely a contested convention will be.

I suppose we can find some principle in appealing to the superdelegates to overturn the will of voters who've voted in the millions to support Hillary over Bernie. However, a campaign which has made so much hay out of railing against the 'establishment' must realize the absurdity in the 'revolutionary' camp expecting those Democratic insiders to make it happen for them.

I mean, they must be champing at the bit for the opportunity to help the campaign which allowed that they were political 'whores' just a short while back.

[Agschmid]

7. Technically...

It will be "contested" until the first ballot.

[bigtree]

16. wow

...this is really something.

Remember, FOUR days after the voting ended in 2008, Hillary conceded. This false hope that the campaign and others are promoting is some cruel shit. It's a long way down, falling from that pie in the sky folks are holding up there.

His supporters aren't children and they don't need this mollycoddling. They need a strong dose of political reality.

[whatchamacallit]

56. Lol, thanks for the heartfelt concern

Holy mackerel...

[Hortensis]

109. Even Paul Krugman thinks Bernie's mostly trying

to keep raising money from his supporters and predicts "Bernie's Bad End," i.e., an end to the real position he has build as a leader of progressivism if he doesn't come to his senses.

[whatchamacallit]

116. Fuck that smarmy tool Krugman

[Hortensis]

117. Bernie needs him, and the rest of the progressive

intelligentsia who worry he will flame out instead of soldiering on.

[whatchamacallit]

118. The "progressive intelligentsia" are a spank tank. The people need change and justice.

They need Bernie Sanders.

[Thinkingabout]

29. Like the team playing football, the final whistle blew, three plays later

His team scored.

[Gothmog]

101. Not in the real world

The race has been effectively over for some time

[Bluenorthwest]

9. Full of shit:

"It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s and because of both president and Mrs. Reagan — in particular Mrs. Reagan — we started a national conversation, when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something I really appreciate with her very effective low-key advocacy. It penetrated the public conscience and people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this too."

Chock full.

[COLGATE4]

48. You keep repeating this as if you believed it

means anything. It doesn't.

[Bluenorthwest]

64. You display your own lack of knoweldge: Reagan's Legacy

The disease that we now call AIDS was first identified 30 years ago in medical journals in 1981 -- President Reagan's first year in office. It quickly took hold in the media and in the national consciousness. Yet it wasn't until May 31, 1987 that President Reagan would give his first major address on AIDS. It was at an outdoor speech in Washington organized by amFAR, the American Foundation for AIDS Research. Elizabeth Taylor, a lifelong friend of Ron and Nancy Reagan, persuaded the President to be there. On the exact night that he gave that speech, saying the word "AIDS" for the first time in public, 21,000 Americans had already died from the disease.

The Reagans' close friend Rock Hudson was one of them, having died from AIDS almost two years before Reagan's speech. Hudson had been a frequent guest in the Reagan White House, even during the time that he appeared gaunt and frail. Nancy Reagan later recalled one such occasion, in which Hudson told her he had picked up a bug in Israel. But even Hudson's ordeal didn't seem to shake Reagan out of his lethargy.

President Reagan did have people around him who were more engaged in dealing with AIDS, notably his surgeon general, C. Everett Koop, and Dr. Anthony Fauci at the National Institutes of Health. But in the office where Harry Truman said the buck stops, the silence on AIDS continues to be a baffling part of the Reagan legacy.
http://sfaf.org/hiv-info/hot-topics/from-the-experts/2011-02-reagans-legacy.html


Very different from the outlandish verbiage Hillary offered up....very different.....

1987

41,027 persons are dead and
71,176 persons diagnosed with AIDS in the US.


After years of negligent silence, President Ronald Reagan finally uses the word "AIDS" in public. He sided with his Education Secretary William Bennett and other conservatives who said the Government should not provide sex education information. (They are still saying it!)

On April 2, 1987, Reagan said: "How that information is used must be up to schools and parents, not government. But let's be honest with ourselves, AIDS information can not be what some call 'value neutral.' After all, when it comes to preventing AIDS, don't medicine and morality teach the same lessons."
http://www.actupny.org/reports/reagan.html

[KittyWampus]

92. She made a stupid (hurtful) gaffe and you keep cynically using it despite the fact Sanders'

record on GLBT issues includes stuff that is detrimental to the GLBT community. Like voting for that Marriage Resolution as Mayor.

Clinton apologized for her remarks.

And if Clinton had fawned over Pope Francis as Sanders did a few weeks ago, there is no question you'd have blown a gasket because any simple search of your user name on this website and the words "Pope Francis" shows you show up regularly on threads about him to make sure everyone knows he and his religion are homophobic and anyone who endorses him should be denounced.

I point all this out to you over and over again. Yet you still use this issue you've always claimed to be so passionate about in an extremely cynical way.

[George II]

69. But if the admit that publicly the money stream will slow down even more.

[Gothmog]

103. Sanders in effect admitted that he had no real path and the money dried up

Yesterday's press conference was a feeble lie to try to restart the small dollar donors.

Hopefully the small dollar donors have learned their lesson

[NurseJackie]

2. You've hit the nail on the head. It's all about the money.

He sees his donations are drying up and petering-out. The dramatic downturn in donations indicates that a lot of his donors understand that he's not going to be the nominee. Others are starting to doubt his chances ... so naturally, he's got to ramp up the rhetoric (no matter how absurd it may be) to make people believe he's going to grab the nomination through a contested convention process.

It ain't gonna happen.

But, when it comes to money, you know how the old saying goes...

[floppyboo]

15. Tried to find Hillary's fund raising #s for April - Do you have them?

If you're going to use those #s as an attack, it would be good to see both sides.
I couldn't find them. But we do know Sanders' April #s are comparative to Hillary's March #s.

So, what is your point? Hoping you can provide a fair comparison and analysis.

[Hortensis]

22. It looks like Sanders has finally started supporting

down-ballot candidates with money he has raised. Unfortunately, it's only about 3 or so (!) on the far left, and even if all 3 were elected it wouldn't change Congress. But maybe he'll broaden his support to include some liberal Democrats with good chances of winning as he winds down his campaign. The limit is/was only $2000 each (?), and helping lift a number candidates could translate into some power for him.

He might also use the donations to further his message in other ways -- while he is still running, and almost certainly a substantial portion would be put away for the usual, i.e., his own reelection campaign in 2018. I wouldn't think he'd be worrying beyond that. He'd be 82 when his next term expired.

[floppyboo]

28. Let's look at this uncomfortable fact for 'Hillary for America'

For example, the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party received $43,500 from the victory fund on Nov. 2, only to transfer the same amount to the DNC that same day. The pattern repeated itself after the Minnesota party received transfers from the victory fund of $20,600 on Dec. 1 (the party sent the same amount to the DNC the next day) and $150,000 on Jan. 4 (it transferred the same amount to the DNC that day).

That means that Minnesota’s net gain from its participation in the victory fund was precisely $0 through the end of March. Meanwhile, the DNC pocketed an extra $214,100 in cash routed through Minnesota — much of which the DNC wouldn’t have been able to accept directly, since it came from donors who had mostly had already maxed out to the national party committee.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/clinton-fundraising-leaves-little-for-state-parties-222670

So, who has Hillary supported, in real dollars? Real 'net' dollars? I'm sure there are some. Got math?

[floppyboo]

32. btw - you responded to my post without an answer. What are Hillary's #'s for April?

I like tangents as much as the next person. But let's try to keep on point.

[puffy socks]

76. Hillary Clinton outraised Bernie Sanders in the month of April

according to fundraising figures reported Monday by the Democratic front-runner's campaign.

Clinton's campaign took in a total of $36 million in April, of which $9.5 million went to the Hillary Victory Fund, a joint fundraising operation between the campaign, the Democratic National Committee, and state parties. Of that total, $26.4 million of the $36 million went to the Clinton campaign itself, which enters May with $30 million on hand.

By comparison, Sanders' team on Sunday reported raising $25.8 million in April, a steep drop from its $44 million total in March.

[floppyboo]

89. Do you know if they have a break down state by state where the money comes from?

Pretty densely areas of the east coast were being contested in April ($'s from March?) and 27% independent in NY alone I believe.
Just curious. Of the 9 states left, what has been the percentage of $'s so far to campaigns? Again (and not going to google it now) I believe one area/district(?) in CA had raised per capita the most $ for Sanders to date.

Someone out there must have a geeky chart like that...

[puffy socks]

99. Follow the $ might help you.

http://www.followthemoney.org/show-me?dt=2

[Hortensis]

35. Hillary is endorsed by virtually all her colleagues

for various very good reasons. Very much among them are the long hours of hard work over the past quarter century that she has put into getting many of them elected. This year is no exception, as everyone knows.

Btw, Politico is a DC-establishment rag that depends on the DC establishment for its success and has always been hostile to Hillary Clinton. I'm not an accountant or lawyer specializing in campaign finance, so I can't explain the movement of numbers or why. I just know the story has to be yet another of their hit pieces -- counting on reader ignorance, as all hit pieces do.

Anyway, what brought on this attack? I'm the nice guy pointing out the legal and positive uses Sanders will likely be putting his campaign donations to.

[floppyboo]

36. Just found the numbers. Hillary raised 26.5M for April, Bernie raised 26, breaking 200M alltime $

edit - so they both experienced losses, Bernie far more to be sure! But isn't that to be expected as the # of states yet to vote dwindles? I'm more intrigued by the headlines. Try googling Hillary Clinton fundraising April and all you get are articles of Sanders' poor showing compared to his 15M advantage over Hillary in March. There are so many other ways to talk about this story. It's frustrating as a supporter of a candidate that is supported by real people.

EDIT: that supports real people. that is supported by real people. Bad! I'm not saying you are not real!!! It was bad fast typing!! Just bundled people seems kinda weird to me.

[Hortensis]

49. Huh!!! Hundreds of Hillary endorsers DON'T KNOW THIS?

Ohmygosh! You're sitting on secret dynamite that could change everything, Floppyboo. Get this to the Sanders campaign by any means possible. Let nothing stop you. You'll save our nation at the last moment and go down in history.


Or, just go play a video game or get back to work, or something? The actually thousands of political professionals who have worked with Hillary for years and support her for POTUS are neither fools nor fooled.

[floppyboo]

65. oh don't go there. Playing video games? Really? I'm retired and enjoying west coast morning coffee

[Hortensis]

72. Well, I was going to suggest going out and weed,

but I thought that might offend someone goofing off on DU BUT nevertheless at work.

Anyway, video games are supposed to be good for keeping sharp and I don't despise anyone who is good at one at my age. I need to practice a LOT more, as one grandson reminded me just yesterday, but I don't tell him I figure there'll be plenty of time for that when I'm dead.

[floppyboo]

74. maybe we'll meet up on BBO (bridge base online) someday

I like to 'goof off' here in the morning, but yes, I keep active. Certainly not hiring a gardener at <10K/year!

[floppyboo]

55. Something to make you smile, I hope you enjoy!

I said I was prone to tangents, so forgive. Your username made me do it!

Performed by (in order of appearance)
Horten - the misunderstood empathy and saviour of people no matter how small
Dr. Whovey - Sanders
Whoville extras - the MSM insulated populous
Jane the Kangaroo - the GOP
The Wickesham Brothers - the current DNC
The Black Bottom Eagle - Trump

[Duckhunter935]

58. Looks like money laundering

[floppyboo]

61. Certainly very suspicious.

But don't talk about it!!! You're only helping Trump ya know

[Duckhunter935]

62. Or it is sexist, lol

[George II]

73. Why don't you look at how much Clinton has raised for the DNC, which is the Committee that....

....distributes the money she raised to the individual State Democratic Committees. That's the process.

She has raised tens of millions of dollars for other Democratic candidates and Democratic committees.

Got math?

[floppyboo]

82. that's exactly what I pointed to. The money she raised for those states are receiving less than 1%

And THAT is her process. She has raised money in the name of state candidates, but they are not benefitting. The states in question have even gone so far as to ask the DNC to stop asking their big donors to contribute to Hillary for America for fear that they will not be able to tap them for money that might actually help them.

George, George, George - please do some research first, and then, come back and reply to my post on this thread which began with a question of who has been directly supported monetarily by the Hillary for America fund. And bring the math

[George II]

88. The general election campaign hasn't begun yet, many candidates haven't even been determined yet.

Your question may be answered in July or August.

[floppyboo]

90. makes sense

[NurseJackie]

37. What I'd seen was a quid-pro-quo type of arrangement ...

... and the down-ticket candidates he was supporting were limited to the ones who had previously endorsed Bernie, or who had agreed to endorse Bernie in return for his endorsement. (Either way, no matter which way the endorsement requirement was flowing, it's still not a tactic that one can use to successfully realize a "revolution".)

[Stuckinthebush]

104. Spot on, Jackie

Most long time Dems I know are rolling their eyes at this stunt. Everyone. Knows it's a out the money now. Well...everyone but some ardent supporters on DU

[Bluenorthwest]

3. Delusional:

Inexplicable, delusional and unacceptable.

[Zorro]

33. Ah yes. Saying gracious things at a funeral is totally unacceptable in Bernieworld

[Bluenorthwest]

39. Lies are never gracious, that was after the funeral and smearing LGBT and denying our

history is not acceptable at all. I assume you do not know the real history. What she said was like saying George W Bush was the hero of Katrina, savior of New Orleans only worse because the death toll was so very high and the number of years Reagan maintained his genocidal silence was so great. Of course a W's funeral a person could say 'gracious things' without claiming for W that which he did not do and which does in fact belong to others.

Hillary credited Ron and Nancy for doing the exact thing they are detested as villains for not doing. But that's fine with her supporters and that's very disturbing indeed. The callous nature of her boosters on DU is chilling. Tens of thousands dead and your response is snark.

[Zorro]

54. I know the history very well. I lived in the SF Bay area throughout the 80s.

I also remember the furor when San Francisco moved to shut down the gay bathhouses before the cause of AIDS was established -- because the local government was intruding on one's personal freedom to have anonymous gay sex.

You can fault the federal government for not having moved more aggressively to confine the spread of AIDS, but blaming the government for "tens of thousands dead" -- and by inference Clinton, for not slagging Nancy Reagan at her funeral -- is just gratuitous Hillary-bashing.

[Armstead]

4. "He will lose every state but Vermont and only get 8 percent of the vote"

[NurseJackie]

20. He's done well ...

... but he won't be the nominee.

If that's your best "neener-neener" moment, well then... well-played, you! You "got us" on that one. We "misunderestimated" him.

Although I'm sure the ELEVEN-STATE database search, over the course of an hour, from FOUR different computers, and TWENTY-FIVE queries, and downloaded reports didn't hurt him any... the fact remains that the MATH isn't there for him. He doesn't have enough votes or delegates.

"Past performance is no guarantee of future results."

[Armstead]

23. The point is it was portrayed as a lost cause from thE start

The campaign has defied all expectations and there is,always,the possibility if doing so again...

Probably not, but it isn't over til it's over...

[NurseJackie]

25. Okay.

[jack_krass]

6. FAIL. Next?

[Stuckinthebush]

106. Ah, fail. The message board eqivalent of...

"Nu uh!"

[Bluenorthwest]

8. Delusion is a Sacrament which must not be discussed but which is toxic to America:

"It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s and because of both president and Mrs. Reagan — in particular Mrs. Reagan — we started a national conversation, when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something I really appreciate with her very effective low-key advocacy. It penetrated the public conscience and people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this too."

[COLGATE4]

50. You really are the original one-trick Pony. For

the love of Odin, please find something a little more interesting to post about other than you (only) "I hate Hillary at Nancy Reagan's funeral" shtick.

[Bluenorthwest]

60. You order me around on what basis? The OP calls Bernie 'delusional' and I offered

direct examples of Hillary's vile delusions about Reagan being an AIDS activist. Thus far, her supporters can be counted on to make personal attacks on anyone who quotes Hillary about this and to never, ever discuss the horrible things Hillary said.
You find her words acceptable. Why is that? She claimed Reagan did the very things he is hated for not doing, she also claimed those who did start that conversation were negligent, when it was Reagan who was negligent.

You sound unaware of the history of those times. Tens of thousands of Americans had died in a period of a few years while Ronald and Nancy Reagan hindered all efforts to help them. That's what happened. Their press sec laughed about the deaths repeatedly on TV. That's what you and Hillary are defending, I just do not understand why. Can you tell me why? Or is that outside your snark infested abilities?

[COLGATE4]

63. As I said: One trick Pony.

You're beginning to resemble a scratched record.

[pinebox]

11. Delusional?

Like.......

"Off the res" and "CP Time"? Or was it that racist ad at 3am when she ran against Obama? Perhaps it was taking sniper fire? Or was it how "We were dead broke"?

Delusional, eh?
Remind us again who America DOESN'T trust?

[JanetLovesObama]

12. Bernie and Jane are in it for the money.

They are rapidly showing their true colors. They went from $46 mil to $26 mil donations in one month. They see the money drying up and they are DESPERATE to get as much as possible before throwing in the towel. All of the respect I had for Bernie (never had any for "where are your taxes" Jane) has dissolved.

[pinebox]

14. And yet he has still raised more than Hillary!

Where the hell are the transcripts? FBI investigation? Shady weapon deals? Where is the grassroots support for the most famous woman in the world who has a 99% name recognition?

[JanetLovesObama]

19. Took some time for Bernie's

supporters see how they are being bamboozled. At least 50% have so far. Maybe the remaining 50% will wake up.

[Armstead]

27. What do you think they're going to do with all that money?

If they were out for personal gain 6ernie can already make money by resigning from the Senate and getting a big book advance and go on a lucrative speaking tour

[Bobbie Jo]

45. I imagine that Jane is still on the payroll.

Doesn't she have a paid position with the campaign? I was thinking she did, unless I'm mistaken.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[George II]

78. She and other family members were paid for his Senate campaigns. We don't know yet...

....how much she may be paid for the Presidential campaign because they still haven't released their 2015 tax returns, even though Jane promised, on air, that they would be released on April 18.

[Armstead]

110. I don't know if she's on salary..

Wouldn't have a problem is she is..But even is she is, I'm sure the number of "zeroes" at the end are few enough they don't need to raise any more large amounts of money if that were their motivation.

The money is for campaigning. There is not much personal gain that can be acquired from it...or they'd be in jail.

[George II]

75. We don't know yet that he won't do that.

[Armstead]

111. He might and I wouldn't blame him

[George II]

112. Neither would I, but it would belie his professed disdain for expressing one's opinion for money.

[Armstead]

113. Your're missing (or ignoring) the point of that

[Goblinmonger]

41. Clinton raised less than Sanders in April

So how does that fit into your calculus?

[pinebox]

77. Bernie supporters are bamboozled? Yes by your candidate and the DNC

Sorry but millions of Bernie supporters will NEVER support "The corrupt one"

[RandySF]

81. Yes, there are plenty of suckers out there.

[morningfog]

13. If Bernie takes it to the convention, it will be contested in that

it will be decided by the super delegates on a floor vote. It will be decided on the first vote, but it will technically be "contested" since Hillary will not secure 2,383 delegates through pledged delegates alone.

[COLGATE4]

51. No. At the time of the floor vote, super delegates vote at the same

time as the other delegates and their vote counts exactly the same. When the roll call reaches 2,384 she wins. There is no "contested convention".

[morningfog]

66. We are arguing semantics.

She will not win without super delegate votes.

She will not have secured the nomination prior to the votes at the convention. It will be contested in that the floor vote will be more than a pro forma exercise. There will be two candidates who had not yet secured enough pledged delegates to be the nominee, and it will be determined when the vote is taken, including the supers.

[COLGATE4]

68. Until the first ballot you don't know if there's a candidate

that hasn't secured enough delegates to be the nominee. That doesn't make it 'contested'.

[morningfog]

70. Read it again. Neither candidate will have secured enough PLEDGED delegates to be the nominee.

Super delegates are not "secured" until they vote is formally taken. Hence, it is a contested vote at the convention. It is not a formality, but the deciding vote.

[scipan]

115. yes it does

the definition of a contested convention is no one has enough pledged delegates for a majority. The super delegates can change their minds anytime before the vote.

Donald Trump’s ongoing standoff with Ted Cruz and John Kasich could lead to the first contested convention in four decades. Or the first brokered convention in either party since 1952.

Or would it be an “open” convention? And what’s the difference, anyway?

“I don’t know that there’s any official definition” for each of the different convention scenarios, said Timothy Hagle, a political scientist at the University of Iowa.

Most experts seem to agree that the convention would be contested if no candidate wins a majority, or 1,237, of the delegates in the primaries. The GOP convention would shift into brokered territory if no candidate secures the nomination on the first ballot, and one or more additional rounds of voting are required. (The use of the informal term “open” convention applies to both cases).

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/brokered-vs-contested-conventions-whatever-theyre-called-there-have-been-more-than-you-think/

In the United States' politics, a brokered convention, closely related to but not quite the same as a contested convention, either of which is sometimes referred to as an open convention, is a situation in which no single candidate has secured a majority of overall delegates just using the pledged delegates from popular vote (United States presidential primary elections and caucuses, state conventions, or superdelegates), after the first vote for a political party's presidential candidate at its national nominating convention.

Once the first ballot, or vote, has occurred, and no candidate has a majority of the delegates' votes, the convention is then considered brokered; thereafter, the nomination is decided through a process of alternating political horse trading—(super) delegate vote trading—and additional re-votes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokered_convention

[rock]

17. He is an idealist and not a realist

An extreme idealist, so, yes, he is delusional.

[beedle]

67. Extreme idealist?

in which way? Wanting to move closer to health care and banking policies of the rest of the civilized world?

You may want to argue that Americans are not ready for such quick change, but there is no way on earth that Bernie is 'extreme' in any sense of the word. America is the party in this scenario that is stuck in the world of 'extreme idealism', Bernie is just trying to help drag America into the 21st century.

[rock]

71. Glad you asked

In the way that is detached from reality. My whole point. Thanks.

[beedle]

93. Wow, you have your own 'special' reality?

Again I ask, it which way .. simply restating the same words differently, without giving any specifics as why you believe what you stated does not make what you stated true.

When I questioned your statement I did something you, and most Hillary supporters, seemed to have missed ... I gave a reason, some evidence, as to why I thought that Bernie is not 'extreme' in any sense of the word. ie. most of the rest of the civilized, democratic countries in the world already have most of the polices that Bernie promotes ... there's nothing 'extreme' about 'single payer health care', there's noting 'extreme' about closely regulating banks and investment companies. There's nothing 'extreme' about a minimum wage that let's a person working 40 hours a week pay for food, clothing and shelter.

Now, you may not agree that the rest of the modern civilized world as I described them are not 'extreme', fine, but then you should present your evidence; Or maybe you believe that even by those standards Bernie is still extreme, again, evidence would be nice.

1 + 2 = 4 is false
2 + 1 = 4 is not any truer just because you restated the same ignorance slightly differently.

[rock]

95. His ideas are foolish and impractical

How can I make this any simpler so you can understand? His ideas will not work in this culture, in this age.

[beedle]

100. By providing evidence of that statement.

Which "culture" makes Americans less capable of expanding a health care system that they already have to make it similar to the one used in Canada, Australia, UK, Western Europe?

Which 'culture' makes Americans less capable of regulating banks the way there were already regulated before they started down the road of risking other people's money?

Bernie is not asking for anything radically new that Americas have never tried (successfully) before.

You're still just making statements without evidence.

[rock]

108. Well you still want to discuss issues

From the first I just tried to describe what I believe the situation to be. I don't have to support any of this. It's my opinion. If you have a different opinion, you're certainly welcome to it (more than welcome to it). Opinions are pretty complex things and I don't care to try to convince you of any of it. Boston bean and I are in agreement. To repeat my single point: He is an idealist and not a realist. Because He is an extreme idealist, he is delusional. Feel free to try to prove me wrong.

[aikoaiko]

18. "We don't trust what she says and we don't like what she has done."

[intheflow]

21. Oooo, if there was ever a post that makes me want to send more money, it's this one.

[Thinkingabout]

30. Well, if you like bombing, Sanders is your candidate.

[cherokeeprogressive]

38. Cluster bombing?

[Vattel]

26. No, he's not delusional, you just don't know what "contested convention" means.

One common usage of the phrase "contested convention" is a convention where no candidate has secured the majority of delegates before the convention. You are confusing "contested convention" with "brokered convention." I would apologize and self-delete the OP.

[morningfog]

34. You would apologize and self-delete. This OP, however, would not do something as decent.

[Gothmog]

107. Super delegates will vote in the best interest of the party including down ballot races

Super delegates will vote for Clinton which is why she has so many commitments. Sanders supporters are not going to flip these super delegates

[Vattel]

114. I agree, but the convention will be contested.

Wikipedia: "A contested convention can also refer to a convention that does result in a first-ballot victory for someone, but where the result was not pre-ordained going into the convention." It is not pre-ordained that Clinton will win because she won't have enough pledged delegates to already give her the majority of all delegates.

[stonecutter357]

31. K&R!

[Gothmog]

40. There will be no open Democratic convention

Sanders is lying to his supporters to keep the small dollar donations coming

[cherokeeprogressive]

42. boston bean is hyperbolical.

[Goblinmonger]

43. Unless she has the number needed WITHOUT superdelegates, it's a contested convention.

What is so hard to realize about that?

Do you need to try so hard to make Sanders look bad? He's right about this and uses the term in the correct manner. Don't let actually using words correctly stop you though.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. I will just say this

I haven't looked at the exact numbers

But once Hillary's Pledged + Super Delegate total exceeds the amount necessary to garner the nomination the media will claim she is the presumptive nominee. That presumption will be virtually impossible to overturn, refute or rebut.

[mcar]

46. K&R

[Triana]

47. . . .

[Hissyspit]

52. Of course that would be your advice.

No one asked for it, though.

[marmar]

53. Sorry, I like trains.

[workinclasszero]

57. Oh I don't know.....

Maybe Bernie can flip a couple hundred of those undemocratic corporate whores hes excoriated for months.

With a big assist from the bros harassing the hell out of them with threats using the superdelagate hit list.

Just in case its not clear...

[whatchamacallit]

59. Shit is being lost

I love it!

[bkkyosemite]

79. I know exactly after the press conference what Bernie is doing and I applaud him!

Oh he is making Trump go after her more...give me a flying break. She was so interested just before CA in 2008 about assassinations that boggles the mind horrifically! If Bernie stays in he is doing terrible things to Hillary cuz of Trump....

[Betty Karlson]

80. Delusional? - Clinton, if she thinks the status quo can be maintained by bullying millennials.

[Zambero]

83. Bernie has won and he has lost

He was able to get his message across and took his campaign further than may anticipated, but there is no way that he will become the Democratic nominee.

[hamsterjill]

85. No one is paying much attention to him any more.

Therefore, he starts screaming "contested convention".

Uh, I don't think so. Hillary has GOT THIS!

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

86. His supporters....

...want him to stay in.

He wants to stay in.

let him stay in.

[mike_c]

87. thanks for the reminder....

It's the first of the month-- time to donate to Sanders' campaign!

[jmousso75]

91. Bernie Sanders is delusional.

If you are going to insult Sanders, why don't you do it on a Hillary thread......God knows you cannot insult her on her threads. If you say anything against Hillary you are blocked. I guess name calling is only ok for Hillary supporters.....Way to get our votes in the general.

[MoonRiver]

96. Your vote should reflect what's best for YOU, not some internet bloggers!

If not voting or voting for Trump is in your best interests, go for it.

[longship]

94. Have a bird.

Enjoy the moment!

[Gothmog]

98. Sanders is lying about contested convention to keep small dollar donations coming

This is a sad tactic

[Live and Learn]

102. Expert on delusional are you now? I should have guessed. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

105. I certainly won't be sending any money to Hillary or the DNC.

[Maru Kitteh]

119. I'm going with LYING. SBS is lying. He knows damn well it will not happen but

Some folks (Devine, Weaver, JANE) gotta get paid.

[nolawarlock]

120. Anything for a buck.

[AgingAmerican]

121. Hillary supporters loathe Democracy

[Gothmog]

122. I have never accepted the argument that Sanders is electable

Sanders is totally unvetted because the new media does not believe that he will be the nominee and the Clinton campaign has been treating Sanders with kids gloves. There is a ton of stuff that would be used by Trump to destroy Sanders. I am not willing to risk the control of the SCOTUS to a candidate who I firmly believe is not electable. Trump and Rove has way too much material that would destroy Sanders in a general election.