Hillary 7 points behind The Donald in Indiana general election poll:

[Herman4747]

Hillary Clinton, the Democrat 41%
Donald Trump, the Republican 48%
Undecided 11%

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/NBC%20NewsWSJMarist.pdf

Flawed candidate. Very flawed candidate.

And Trump's not so good either.

[Buzz Clik]

1. Obama lost Indiana in 2012 to a total dipshit by 9 points.

When Obama beat McCain in IN, it was the first time IN had voted for a Dem presidential candidate in 60 years.

Nice try.

[Herman4747]

2. Unemployment rate was what, about 9% back then?

But hey, concede Indiana, if that's what makes you happy.

[Dem2]

11. Done.

It's been getting more right-wing by the day.

[Buzz Clik]

19. Just put the clowns on Ignore. My ignore list is approaching 90.

When Skinner finally decides to shut these put up, life will be better. (If he decides to not shut them up, I'll be gone).

[Buzz Clik]

18. I destroyed the point of the OP.

If you want struggle to find some scenarios where we should expect -- demand -- HRC to win Indiana, no one is stopping you. History says you're pissing in the wind.

[Herman4747]

38. So, arrogant enough to assume you know the point...

...of the original post?

Doesn't surprise me.

[Buzz Clik]

41. Yes, I know how to read. Does that make me arrogant?

[leftofcool]

3. Red State Indiana and I am supposed to be surprised?

[Herman4747]

4. A state won by Obama in 2008.

You're not willing to automatically concede it to the Republicans, are you?

[leftofcool]

5. Hillary will beat Trump in a landslide.

I know you wish that wasn't so but it will happen.

[Joe the Revelator]

9. now who's talking about unicorns and ponies?

[Buzz Clik]

22. Look at the polls. I know you think polls are the equivalent of unicorns and ponies...

... but the polls predicted that HRC would hand Sanders his ass, and she did.

[pdsimdars]

17. Don't you just love the creativity, how they just make shit up? Pull it right out . . . .

[Buzz Clik]

20. You're willing to repeat that bullshit after having the deception rubbed in your face?

Why?

What leads a person to intentionally mislead?

[Herman4747]

39. Please describe what it is exactly...

...that was posted that is "deceptive."

Go on, I dare you.

But first, you are likely going to want to look up the word, "deceptive," in a dictionary.

[Buzz Clik]

42. Do you double dog dare me? Do ya?

Read this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1880163

QED

have the last word.

[Herman4747]

44. Okay. You have utterly failed to point out...

...what precisely I wrote that was untrue or deceptive, when I merely made reference to a recent poll.
Again, for your own sake, please consult the dictionary with regards to the word, "deceptive."

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. I like this map

BTW, the Hoosier state has went blue twice in the past seventy six years:


http://www.270towin.com/states/Indiana




INDIANA. NOT .NEEDED.

[rock]

12. I do too

Thanks!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. You are welcome, and it is from a credible source

Dr. Larry J. Sabato is the founder and director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics. He is also the University Professor of Politics at the University of Virginia, and has had visiting appointments at Oxford University and Cambridge University in Great Britain. A Rhodes Scholar, he received his doctorate from Oxford, and he is the author or editor of two dozen books on American politics.

Prof. Sabato directs the Center for Politics’ Crystal Ball website, a leader in accurately predicting elections since its inception. In 2004, the Crystal Ball notched a 99 percent accuracy rate in predicting all races for House, Senate, Governor and each state’s Electoral College outcome. In 2006, the Pew Research Center and the Pew Charitable Trusts’ Project for Excellence in Journalism recognized the Crystal Ball as the leader in the field of political predictors, noting that the site “came closer than any other of the top ten potential predictors this cycle.”
In 2008, the Crystal Ball came within one electoral vote of the exact tally in the Electoral College, while also correctly picking the result of every single gubernatorial and Senate race across the country. In 2010, the Crystal Ball was the first to forecast a solid Republican takeover of the House. While others were predicting a Romney victory in 2012, the Crystal Ball forecast a substantial Obama margin in the Electoral College, and ultimately missed just two states. The Crystal Ball had a combined 97% accuracy rate in forecasting the Electoral College, Senate, House and gubernatorial contests.
Earlier this year, the Crystal Ball won a “Beast Best” award from The Daily Beast as one of the top political sites on the web.
In 2013 Prof. Sabato won an Emmy award for the television documentary Out of Order, which he produced to highlight the dysfunctional U.S. Senate. In 2014, Prof. Sabato won a second Emmy award for the PBS documentary The Kennedy Half-Century, which covers the life, assassination, and lasting legacy of President John F. Kennedy.
In October 2013, Prof. Sabato and the Center for Politics unveiled the Kennedy Half Century project. The project consisted of a New York Times bestselling book, The Kennedy Half-Century PBS documentary, a Massive Open Online Course (MOOC) available on Coursera and iTunes U, an app with the complete recordings and transcripts from Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63, and a website (www.thekennedyhalfcentury.com).
Prof. Sabato is also very active on social media. His Twitter feed (@LarrySabato) was named by Time Magazine as one of the 140 best Twitter feeds of 2014.

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/staff_sabato.html

[rock]

14. Muchly appreciated!

[NWCorona]

15. There is this but I think these polls don't mean much at this point.

http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/trump_41_clinton_39

[aaaaaa5a]

7. Um... That's a good sign.

Indiana is a republican state. Bush won Indiana by around 20 points in 2004. Obama lost by 9 points here on his way to a dominating victory with more than 300 elecotoal votes in 2012.

Indiana is a Midwestern state. If Hillary is only losing by 5-10 points in Indiana, then she is winning in Michigan, Wisonsin and most importantly Ohio.


This is the "old canary in the coal mine" for the GOP. A blowout is coming.


Image a poll showing Clinton only up 9 points in Massachusetts, or Oregon?

[Joe the Revelator]

10. yet, Obama won it in 08.

We are conceding states already???

[NuclearDem]

28. Sanders wouldn't have won Indiana either.

2016 is not 2008.

[Joe the Revelator]

31. You can say that again. But the point remains

Indiana is winnable with the right candidate. Hillary isn't it.

[NuclearDem]

33. No, it's not.

Obama won Indiana because:
1) People were energized to vote for him
2) George W. Bush was one of the most unpopular presidents of all time, and McCain was largely seen as his clone
3) The economy was in a nose dive, taking the auto industry that northern Indiana is dependent upon with it.

And even then, he only won it by 1%.

[apnu]

8. Another day on DU, another thread about Trump leading in Indiana.

This has become too

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. As goes Indiana so goes the nation said no one.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

16. As a HRC supporter here in Indiana I'm not counting on her winning here

As a previous poster pointed out, Democrats almost never win Indiana, so your post proves nothing IMHO. A poll showing Hillary losing to Donald in, say, California, now THAT might be notable (but totally unrealistic as well).

[SidDithers]

21. Hilary 12 points ahead of Donald in Florida general election poll...nt

Sid

[masmdu]

27. Admit it, You won't vote for Hillary will you?

[book_worm]

23. Yet she is winning Ohio and Florida. Indiana is traditionally

a GOP state in presidential elections, so I wouldn't be too excited about Trump winning it.

[Skwmom]

24. Wait until the Russian Uranium Deal become common knowledge.

Her poll numbers will take a nose dive.

[oasis]

26. Rabid right winger Pence is the governor of RED STATE Indiana.

The electorate seems to like that kind of leadership.

[kimbutgar]

29. Isn't Indiana one of those states with a large community of The KKK?

If so , it's no surprise the state would go for trump. I remember hearing even as a kid that black people shouldn't go to certain parts of Indiana at night. I remember driving from Chicago to my uncle's farm in Michigan several times in my childhood. We would drive though Indiana. My uncle would fill up at the Illinois border and we never stopped in Indiana because it had a bad reputation dealing with black people. This was in the 1960's. Once I remember someone in the car had to go to the bathroom and so reluctantly my uncle stopped he was so nervous as the family member went into stuckeys to go to the bathroom. I decided I had to go also and my Mother took me in. My Mother and I could pass for white and I remember someone asking my Mother if we were ok. My Mother said yes hustled me in that bathroom and we walked out to the car so fast my mother was practically dragging me. I was young and didn't understand it at the time. The last time I took that drive I was 17 and I got it.

[longship]

30. I imagine that she is behind Trump in several states.

ID, KS, OK, MS, AL, and yes, IN, those states who think the Bible speaks louder than the people. The Bible Belt utterly sucks.

And ID seems to draw a rather lot of nazis and so-called sovereign citizens, both delusional.

We're in big trouble as long as such narratives are prominent in the body politic.

[Bobbie Jo]

32. It's Indiana.

Fucking Bobby Knight himself was out stumping for Trump.

That made my head hurt.

[B Calm]

34. She's behind Trump in all those Red States she won.

[Sheepshank]

35. 7 points behind in a RED STATE for GE

wow....you are really stretching things aren't you? Some would call it desperation, I call it willful misrepresentation.

[Jokerman]

36. Hillary as the nominee will be a disaster for our state and local races.

If she's the nominee she will go down big in Indiana and drag the rest of the ticket down with her.

[Attorney in Texas]

37. Weakest Democratic candidate in a generation losing to unpredictable Republican candidate. Go figure

[brooklynite]

40. OMG! Next you'll tell us she's not expected to do well in South Carolina and Mississippi!

[0rganism]

43. you do know how rare it is for Democrats to carry Indiana, right?

the fact that Trump runs under 50% there is a sign of, as you'd say, a "very flawed candidate."

[Herman4747]

45. Yep, both of these are very flawed corporate politicians:

[0rganism]

46. indeed, and one of them is going to lose big in November

Indiana will likely be on the short end of that particular stick