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Bernie is staying in as long as he can. All the minute by minute insults of him (Original Post) mmonk May 2016 OP
They are just shocked...then there was Hillary in 2008...after a deal then she endorses...yep bkkyosemite May 2016 #1
Yeah, I am not sure of their point there - like nasty mob mentality. Issue free. djean111 May 2016 #2
He should stay in. But spouting nonsense about a "contested convention" is pathetic. KittyWampus May 2016 #3
I don't know why. Bad Dog May 2016 #4
I am attacking the enemy within. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #5
Principled opposition achieves nothing. Bad Dog May 2016 #13
Bullshit. Without principle what's the point. You vote your way, and Ed Suspicious May 2016 #14
I lived through the dark days of Thatcher. Bad Dog May 2016 #17
As long as the money keeps coming in. oasis May 2016 #6
Hillary supporters keep reducing everything to the money, misunderstanding that democracy JudyM May 2016 #8
Hillary will work toward the dismantling of Citizens United. Years oasis May 2016 #9
I hope you are right. Speed and depth matter though. JudyM May 2016 #11
A Trump Supreme Court would be a major roadblock. nt oasis May 2016 #12
Sanders is lying about contested convention to keep small dollar donations coming Gothmog May 2016 #7
It's sad to think you believe all politicians are corrupt and money-driven Armstead May 2016 #15
My personal gold standard on the primary is TalkingPointsMemo.com randome May 2016 #10
Much of it is aimed at the system Clinton represents Armstead May 2016 #16

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
1. They are just shocked...then there was Hillary in 2008...after a deal then she endorses...yep
Mon May 2, 2016, 10:44 AM
May 2016

I love Bernie's press conference it was great and now I know what he is looking at. Great.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Yeah, I am not sure of their point there - like nasty mob mentality. Issue free.
Mon May 2, 2016, 10:51 AM
May 2016

My bridge does not allow war and fracking and the TPP and cluster bombs and liars and no to single payer and means-testing Social Security instead of raising the cap, to cross. So, in some cases, the insults are just gratuitous and they know the bridges are burnt and do not care.

When the record says this - under Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats - I believe they are just looking for scapegoats for the next loss. And making a situation that has been ongoing for years (I think deliberately, and where did the money go?) into Bernie's fault, and Bernie's job to fix - this is so very hypocritical and transparent. And, really ugly in intent.

I would love for Bernie to bring up the massive loss of seats since Debbie DINO was appointed. She is either inept or deliberate. And a campaign which started out with such a massive lead, and massive money, and still not sealed the deal - that is a lousy campaign for a lousy candidate. Not Bernie's problem.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
4. I don't know why.
Mon May 2, 2016, 11:06 AM
May 2016

So many Democrats spend so much time attacking other Democrats instead of the real enemy.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
14. Bullshit. Without principle what's the point. You vote your way, and
Mon May 2, 2016, 07:00 PM
May 2016

I won't badger you over hour support of a compromised candidate.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
17. I lived through the dark days of Thatcher.
Mon May 2, 2016, 07:26 PM
May 2016

I saw how principled opposition instead of electability handed everything to her on a plate. If you're in opposition you can do naff all.

I don't have a vote in your election, I don't have to make a decision. I do fear for the consequences of a Trump/Cruz presidency. I not bothered either way regarding Clinton/Sanders.

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
8. Hillary supporters keep reducing everything to the money, misunderstanding that democracy
Mon May 2, 2016, 12:39 PM
May 2016

has become corporatocracy and needs to be restored... Which won't happen with a corporatist, even if she is a dem.

oasis

(49,387 posts)
9. Hillary will work toward the dismantling of Citizens United. Years
Mon May 2, 2016, 12:47 PM
May 2016

from now we may have publicly financed campaigns. I look forward to getting both done.

Gothmog

(145,280 posts)
7. Sanders is lying about contested convention to keep small dollar donations coming
Mon May 2, 2016, 11:56 AM
May 2016

It is sad to see Sanders use these tactics

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
15. It's sad to think you believe all politicians are corrupt and money-driven
Mon May 2, 2016, 07:09 PM
May 2016

Can't recognize someone principled without projecting onto him

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. My personal gold standard on the primary is TalkingPointsMemo.com
Mon May 2, 2016, 12:51 PM
May 2016
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/what-is-sanders-thinking

But there's nothing like that here. Hillary is the clear, clear winner on both fronts. (We might add that Sanders' numbers heavily leverage states with caucuses, which mainly function as ways to keep participation really low.)

For the same reason they wouldn't try to help Clinton overturn the clear verdict of the primary process in 2008, they certainly aren't going to help Sanders overcome it in 2016. Add to that that most do genuinely support Clinton over Sanders. But even though it's not going to happen, how exactly does Sanders, with a straight face, say that his strategy is to have the reviled 'establishment' step in and give him the nomination by overruling the actual voters?


All the wishing in the world won't make any difference. I agree that the insults are unneeded but much of it is a reaction to the hatred and vitriol aimed at Clinton.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
16. Much of it is aimed at the system Clinton represents
Mon May 2, 2016, 07:12 PM
May 2016

When politicians decide to cast their lot wirh corporate lobbyists, Wall St. banksters and otehr unsavory bullies and greedy bastards, it does tend to get people angry who believe we should try to do better than to continue enabling that kind of swill.

And yeah, I'm not just referring to the GOP -- although their rank and file are pissed at the same thing.

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