The TRUTH: Sanders did NOT say whoever won a state should get all the superdelegates.

[Skwmom]

He said in states where the person had won overwhelmingly they should get all the super delegates.

[CrowCityDem]

1. Yet he doesn't advise Grayson to flip to Hillary. Sore loser. #RulesOnlyApplyToHillary

[thesquanderer]

3. He does say that states that went overwhelming for Hillary should give her super delegates.

THOSE SUPERDELEGATES, IN STATES WERE EITHER CANDIDATE, SECRETARY CLINTON ON MYSELF, HAS WON A LANDSLIDE VICTORY, THOSE SUPERDELEGATES OUGHT TO SERIOUSLY REFLECT ON WHETHER THEY SHOULD CAST THEIR SUPERDELEGATE VOTE IN LINE WITH THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE OF THEIR STATE. LET ME JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT I MEAN BY THAT. IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON, WE WON THAT CAUCUS WITH ALMOST 73% OF THE VOTE THERE. 73% OF THE VOTE THERE. IN ANYBODY'S DEFINITION THAT IS A MASSIVE LANDSLIDE. AT THIS POINT SECRETARY CLINTON HAS 10 SUPERDELEGATES FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON. WE HAVE ZERO. I WOULD ASK THE SUPERDELEGATES FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON TO RESPECT THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE IN THEIR STATE AND THE VOTES THEY HAVE CAST. IN MINNESOTA, WE WON THE CAUCUS THERE WITH 61% OF THE. HILLARY CLINTON HAS 11 SUPERDELEGATES. WE HAVE THREE. IN COLORADO, WE WON THAT STATE WITH 59% OF THE VOTE. PRETTY STRONG MARGIN. SECRETARY CLINTON HAS 10 SUPERDELEGATES. WE HAVE ZERO. NEW HAMPSHIRE, WE WON THAT STATE 60% OF THE VOTE. SECRETARY CLINTON HAS SIX SUPERDELEGATES. WE HAVE ZERO. THAT PATTERN CONTINUES IN OTHER STATES WHERE WE HAVE ONE LANDSLIDE VICTORIES. I WOULD HOPE VERY MUCH THAT THE SUPERDELEGATES FROM THOSE STATES , WHERE THEY HAD -- OR WE HAVE ONE WITH BIG MARGINS OR WITH SECRETARY CLINTON HAVING BIG MARGINS, TO RESPECT TO THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE OF THOSE STATES AND VOTE IN LINE WITH HOW THE PEOPLE OF THAT STATE VOTED.

and

I THINK THAT THE SUPERDELEGATES SHOULD REFLECT WHAT THE PEOPLE IN THE STATE WANT. THAT'S TRUE FOR HILLARY CLINTON AS WELL. IF SHE WINS MISSISSIPPI, BY WHATEVER, HUGE NUMBERS -- SUPERDELEGATES THERE SHOULD VOTE FOR HER.

Though he also goes on to talk about that not being the only consideration, that super delegates should consider evidence of who will be the stronger candidate in November. He also reminded people that many super delegates who chose to support Hillary did so before Bernie even entered the race. i.e. it the endorsement was not the result of a careful comparison of the candidates.

[CrowCityDem]

10. He could 'walk the walk' by telling his people in those states to flip. He won't.

[thesquanderer]

13. He's publicly put forth that super delegates from states that EITHER of them won...

...should consider that in how they vote, especially if the states were won by very large margins.

Moreover, he has not said this should be the *only* criteria, but is one to consider. He also said it is important to think about who would be the stronger candidate in November.

[Duckhunter935]

11. He just did in his statement

More than Hillary has it appears

[apnu]

2. Still its changing the rules in the middle of the game when losing.

I support Bernie but that was stupid of him to say.

I don't have a problem with doing away with superdelegates or changing DNC rules. I've always thought the supers were a bad idea designed to keep the dirty hippies out of the party, but I won't advocate changing the rules because Bernie is losing. Children do that, adults don't and for good reasons. Bernie should know better, I'm sure he does know better, and I wonder if he said that because he's frustrated with the process and the DNC's stupid delegate system.

[thesquanderer]

4. He's not changing the rules.

He's suggesting things that the super delegates may want to consider when casting their votes, within the rules.

He also talked about how he thinks some of the rules should be changed for the future, but as for this contest, he said something about knowing what the rules were when he got in and accepting them.

[apnu]

8. No he said he belives he should be entitled to the superdelegates if he's got a big win in a state.

That's not what the DNC rules say. Supers are free to vote where/how they like regardless of what the state's popular vote says or the pledged delegate count.

“If I win a state with 70 percent of the vote, you know what? I think I am entitled to those superdelegates,” Sanders said yesterday. “I think the superdelegates should reflect what the people of the state want, and that’s true for Hillary Clinton as well.”

Source: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/bernie-sanders-commits-controversial-convention-strategy?cid=sm_fb_maddow

[thesquanderer]

12. You are reading more into it than he is saying.

He is not suggesting that the DNC change the rules to force those super delegates to shift their support. He's putting forth an argument for another way the super delegates themselves might consider looking at it, as they make their choice within the framework of the current rules.

[apnu]

15. If that's the case, that's a poor way to make his argument.

He should be appealing to the supers directly. The party knows who they are, and he should be appealing to them such that his proposals are in their best interests and the party's best interests. That's how he'd win supers, not telling them they should vote the way the state votes. Because the supers are there, strictly to prevent grassroots mob mentality and the supers know it.

If Bernie wants their support, he must appeal to them and party insiders that he is the better choice and that his polices are the better choice for Democrats. Which is exactly what Obama did when he defeated Hillary. He collected an impressive amount of supers as well as pledged delegates. Because he campaigned for both from the start.

Bernie, being an outsider to the party, a newbie Democrat, if you will, made this critical error. Talking about it now smacks of of sour grapes, regardless of what Bernie's intentions are and what he's thinking.

Its not too late however, he can still try to convince supers to his way of thinking. But he's got to do that, not ask that supers "consider" changing their minds because of the popular vote.

[rock]

6. Bazinga!

[morningfog]

7. SUper delegates have no rules. Anything goes, there is no changing here.

[apnu]

9. Correct. Its a stupid system, but its the system we agreed upon for this primary.

The time to change the DNC rules and superdelegates was in 2015.

[Renew Deal]

5. How conventient

[firebrand80]

14. There's no formula that puts him ahead

Unless you overturn the will of the voters.

He knows that's the truth, but he won't say it for obvious reasons. The media will most likely repeat his "contested convention" half-truth because they're rooting for contraversy for obvious reasons.

[onenote]

16. Still doesn't help Sanders much

Number of unpledged delegates that would be awarded based on "winner take all/big margin of victory" theory:

In contests won by Sanders by 10 percent or more: 130
In contests won by Clinton by 10 percent or more: 278
In contests won by Sanders by 10-15 percent: 43
In contests won by Clinton by 10-15 percent: 106
In contests won by Sanders by more than 15 percent: 98
In contests won by Clinton by more than 15 percent: 172
In contests won by Sanders by more than 19 percent: 98
In contests won by Clinton by more than 19 percent: 157