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book_worm

(15,951 posts)
Mon May 2, 2016, 03:40 PM May 2016

Kos: No Bernie the supers won't bail you out because you didn't get more votes

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/2/1522281/-No-Bernie-the-superdelegates-won-t-bail-you-out-because-you-didn-t-get-more-votes

After getting his ass whooped last Tuesday (losing the popular vote by ~764,000 on the day), Bernie Sanders issued a statement saying he was continuing in the race to amass delegates to impact policy at the convention: “This campaign is going to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia with as many delegates as possible to fight for a progressive party platform.” That was fine. If his supporters wanted to fund that effort, there was no reason for him not to continue fighting for greater influence at the convention. But to win? It seemed as if his campaign’s delusion was over. But alas, that wasn’t the case.

5) The overall scorecard shows no real Sanders advantage:


Winning low-performance caucuses doesn’t give Sanders any particular moral high ground. We all know caucuses reward the candidate with the most passionate supporters, and no one doubts those belong to Sanders. Barack Obama won the nomination in 2008 largely on the strength of performance in those undemocratic caucuses. So there’s nothing wrong with working the system to your advantage. But when caucuses are essentially the only game you’ve got, that’s a problem.
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Kos: No Bernie the supers won't bail you out because you didn't get more votes (Original Post) book_worm May 2016 OP
It's all over except the formality griffi94 May 2016 #1
But Bernie will continue to milk his supporters of their $27 COLGATE4 May 2016 #2
I am starting to wonder what Bernies end game is griffi94 May 2016 #3
I think he (or maybe Jane) has convinced him/herself COLGATE4 May 2016 #4
Well I'm not a Bernie supporter griffi94 May 2016 #6
I couldn't agree with you more! nt COLGATE4 May 2016 #8
Perhaps all of the above? His hostile far-left Hortensis May 2016 #7
Bernie leveraged the least democratic parts of the process to his advantage. JaneyVee May 2016 #5

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
1. It's all over except the formality
Mon May 2, 2016, 03:47 PM
May 2016

of finishing up the last primary contests and casting the first
ballot at the convention.


COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
2. But Bernie will continue to milk his supporters of their $27
Mon May 2, 2016, 04:22 PM
May 2016

until the bitter end. Weaver and Devine aren't going to pay themselves, you know.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
3. I am starting to wonder what Bernies end game is
Mon May 2, 2016, 04:47 PM
May 2016

If it's about his issues he should be really driving the positive points of his issues home.
He seems to still be in attack Hillary and the Democratic Party mode tho.

He can't seriously believe he still has a shot.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
4. I think he (or maybe Jane) has convinced him/herself
Mon May 2, 2016, 04:55 PM
May 2016

that somehow, some way the dream doesn't have to end. And his consultants certainly aren't going to cut off their revenue stream one minute before they absolutely have to.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
6. Well I'm not a Bernie supporter
Mon May 2, 2016, 05:07 PM
May 2016

but it does seem to me that the longer he keeps up the pitbull style attacks on our presumed nominee and the party in general
the more hes damaging himself when the dust settles.

His biggest skill that I've noticed in the last 2 months is stirring up animosity

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Perhaps all of the above? His hostile far-left
Mon May 2, 2016, 05:08 PM
May 2016

contingent is so worked up it's barely consenting to remain officially behind him while in reality ignoring him to attack everything they hate -- which is all the rest of America's left, starting with the Democrats. Election be damned. As we see happening on DU's microcosm. This type would rather burn progressivism before sharing it with Democrats. Not settling for attainable but lesser goals is both merely the excuse and practically the definition of extremism.

Sanders may be caught up in his own dreams, but I find it hard to believe he doesn't understand the extremists very well and that they are very likely to turn on the person who failed to give them the radical anti-capitalist/anti-liberal revolution they insist on. He may feel closer to the extremists, but he NEEDS his larger liberal support base not just to be successful but for protection.

And his liberal followers need to make a choice. Do they want Bernie to continue as a progressive leader or will they let the extremists from the far left destroy him? For those here, DU is a good place to make that choice. Hate and division or working for a better America?

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
5. Bernie leveraged the least democratic parts of the process to his advantage.
Mon May 2, 2016, 04:59 PM
May 2016

Thats fine, but he hasnt been cheated.

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