Sanders has been treated gently, with no negative ads run

[The Second Stone]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/05/bernie_sanders_electability_argument_is_still_a_myth.html

Sanders is in fact somebody that Karl Rove and Company would truly love to face in a general election. Remember how they abused Kerry the war hero in 2004?

Sanders is in fact a man with a long history of goofy views, who has generously published them. He is not even slightly electable outside of the people who already support him.

[TheCowsCameHome]

1. You forgot the little red thingy.

[The Second Stone]

3. What little red thingy?

We are trying to keep it clean.

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. This one:

It looks clean to me.

[CentralCoaster]

21. Series! Remember when Sanders sent children back to Honduras and screwed up Libya?

He's toast, I think the OP is dead serious.

And I didn't even mention how he laundered money using multiple family foundations.

[The Second Stone]

24. We get it. You're sarcasm incarnate

and make crap up. Clinton was President Obama's Secretary of State, not the other way around. Sanders was not required to suck up to the NRA, dismiss black and democratic party voters, talk about rape fantasies and kiddies diddling each other while not going to school because of "bitchy" teachers. He choose to do that for his own reasons. He may be electable in Vermont in a general election, but he isn't nationally. As disgusting as Trump is, he has taken none of those positions.

[CentralCoaster]

29. Hillary hit-squad talking points! Wheredja find 'em? "Kiddies Diddling"?

Those are worse than the made up bullshit used against Hillary, and you're not afraid to even describe them!

Wow. Kiddies diddling? Really?

You must be very proud to post that one.

[mooseprime]

33. and i remember YES

on the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas!

and haiti!
and honduras!
and syria!
and libya!
and greenlighting arms sales to saudi arabia in exchange for foundation "donations"!
and yes on Operation Business Opportunity!
and using office to push fracking all over the world!

all of which are easy to defend, and besides, no republican would ever dream of hammering the crap out of them during the GE!

LOVE AND KINDNESS(TM)

[CentralCoaster]

37. AND Sanders managed to turn a profit on each one of these things.

Now THAT is how to multitask!

Why have wars and famine when you can have wars and famine AND draw fat donations to your Sanders Family Foundation?

[mooseprime]

38. and store

FedGov business files on a server at home!
and change what you say incessantly depending on who is listening!

[mooseprime]

40. we came! we saw! he died!

my abuela says that exact same thing all the time!

[mooseprime]

42. maybe some software genius

can whip us up a

SANDERS CRIME RW ATTACK GENERATOR

website. just click!

[Live and Learn]

36. +10,000 lol nt

[griffi94]

2. Doesn't matter now

Bernie isn't going to be the nominee.

He'll probably keep up the fire breathing rhetoric
but he has no chance now.

Probably best to let him burn himself out.

[IamMab]

7. No. We're supposed to let some burned-out hippie trash our party rather than aim at the GOP?

Nope. x1000. If Bernie wants to run a party, he can scuttle off to the backwoods of Vermont and create one.

Until then, his temper tantrum doesn't entitle him to shit all over the Democratic Party just because he's a sore loser.

[angrychair]

13. You have no idea what your talking about

He is the longest serving Independent in the history of Congress.

He has caucused with Democrats in Congress every one of those years.

He was the co-founder and first leader of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

He has one of the most liberal records in Congress.

You hate for him is misguided and wrong-headed. You are cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[griffi94]

14. I do agree he should back off the attacks

But he's losing his audience now.
I would prefer that Hillary just go around him.

Then next year when the dust has settled...senate Democrats can teach him how politics aint bean bag.

[The Second Stone]

20. Or he could step up this year and get a plum committee chair

position. He really needs to figure out what is best for the country. Which isn't continuing down a path that will only make his long holding out more painful for his supporters.

[griffi94]

23. I would say the plum senate chair

except Bernie hasn't really been serving himself well the last couple
of months.
He did much better when he stayed on message.
since he's now taken up fire breathing he's been getting
steamrolled.

Maybe it is his ego or his anger that won't let him stop the lashing out.

In any case. He's not going to be our nominee.
I didn't have a negative opinion of him til recently.

[TheCowsCameHome]

16. Bitter much?

Wow, someone needs a 'tood transplant.

[IamMab]

25. Say "Say 'bitter much?' much?" much?

[TheCowsCameHome]

30. It's like IamMabIamMabIamMabIamMabIamMab......

Babble-speak.

[IamMab]

31. It's actually a reference to a smart comedy, but I bet you watch Big Bang Theory instead. nt

[Armstead]

41. This sounds like it was written by the spawn of Richard Nixon, Joe Mccarthy and Sean Hannity

I hope this is not widespread Democratic thinking these days...jebus.

[yourpaljoey]

5. Please serve up a side of skunk phazoozah with that order of Mexican zoo chitters

sad sad sad sad sad

[azurnoir]

6. we don't have to imagine Hillary's operatives have covered pretty much all of it

[sufrommich]

8. "proclaimed “solidarity” with revolutionary Iran.

(This was in the middle of the Iranian hostage crisis.) ". I haven't even finished reading past this and I'm already cringing.

[The Second Stone]

11. the point of the article was that it does tend to enlighten

the die hards.

[seabeyond]

9. He has been coddled, no vetting. Nt

[Arkansas Granny]

17. Especially, no vetting from the right. They would rip him to shreds.

[seabeyond]

19. To shreds. But hell, lets pretend otherwise. Nt

[BootinUp]

10. There was one or two things in there I didn't know nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

12. Never came under sniper fire in Bosnia.

What a wuss.

[The Second Stone]

15. At the time he was busy writing articles that toddlers should go

naked and touch each other before growing up to have rape fantasies after not being forced to go to school.

[TheCowsCameHome]

26. Whatever you enjoy reading.

That's your personal business.

[moriah]

18. Even so, had he been the nominee, or if (unlikely though it might be) he is the Nominee...

... it would have been / will be our job to defend those positions.

I was glad Mother Jones got rid of (for most of us) the new off the old opinion piece about male and female interactions -- no, it wasn't a rape apology, because fantasy is very different than reality. The idea of a "rape fantasy" is inherently an oxymoron, because in fantasy one has ultimate control, and rape is when that control is taken away.

Additionally, the rest of his argument was so spot-on that it described perfectly the ending of a relationship I had in 1998 -- decades after the opinion piece.

If I could dig up my original words I would, but I tried the search function and my tablet hates it.

[The Second Stone]

22. These positions are not really defensible and the

best way to deal with them would have been to claim they are ancient, but that is really weak.

[moriah]

27. I can easily, at least, and at length, debate the silly editorial....

.. with any thinking person.

What was funniest was when the person I broke up with in 1998 for being too controlling and I became friends on FB in time for the election season, and he posted that smear. I knew he listened to talk radio back then, which was a bad sign, but he was never a social conservative. Now, only socially conservative on abortion. Thank God I dumped him, we would have killed each other as I matured.

After explaining how rape fantasy isn't actually possible but defending the BDSM community and others who have consensual kinks involving the loss of control....

I then said "As for the rest... wouldn't you agree a lot of that applied to male/female interaction even in 1998?"

He said.... "I never would have seen it that way, but I have to admit you have a point."

Edit: it was a rebound relationship, and he was older than me. It was all cool despite some suspicious behaviors (not wanting me to work, me having no transportation outside of him, etc) ntil he didn't want to let me see female friends who disliked him because they knew him through the SCA, and finally when he relented to drive me to see a woman I had known since I was 5 and was more than just a friend but family, that he would go to a "tittle bar" while I saw her. (I have nothing against men going on principle, but....)

I recognized it as a verbal slap which I wasn't going to accept, and it gave me the best breakup line ever -- "Have fun, because you aren't seeing these again.

[mmonk]

28. I haven't seen any attacks on Bernie from The Democratic Party, its echo chamber or anywhere.

Now this bro has a great deal for you. I own a bridge in Brooklyn...

[CharlotteVale]

32. Hill and her mouthpieces are too busy trashing his supporters.

[Vattel]

34. lol, how about the ad in nevada that suggested that he called immigrants silly and illiterate?

that was quite the negative ad

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. No need to beat up the guy but wanting to overrule the popular vote is an abomination.

We are a democratic republic and not a junta.

[ucrdem]

39. Yes but we're not supposed to mention any of that. nt