2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhich Candidate Has Voted For More Wars and War Funding Than Anyone Running On Both Sides?
Take your time.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)I win, right?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)G_j
(40,367 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)And this
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)thousands of people?
Which candidate votes for immoral wars?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Hint: Bernie voted for more wars and war funding than any candidate running.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)her tally if given a chance.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)I know, selective memory and all.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)to send to war and to support them when they came home.
Live and learn:
Between 2003 and 2011, the United States Congress tried to pass ten different bills to fund the Iraq War, one per year. Bernie voted against six, and voted for these four:
2006: Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Hurricane Recovery
2007: Department of Defense Appropriations Act
2008: Supplemental Appropriations Act
2011: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year
Why did Bernie vote in favor of those four bills?
First, it may help to explain why he had voted against the other six. The Bush administration, backed by a Republican-controlled Congress, made a habit of funding its occupation of Iraq on an emergency basis in order to minimize congressional scrutiny, circumvent legal limits on the federal governments debt ceiling, and understate the true cost of the war.
The first time Bernie voted for an Iraq war spending bill was in 2006, when the bill included funding for Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. The second time, in 2007, he did so because he managed to insert an amendment into the bill giving a $1 million grant to the Vermont Department of Veterans Affairs (the VA) to help returning veterans cope with their health care and mental health needs upon returning home. The third time was when the 2008 legislation incorporated a massive expansion of G.I. Bill benefits that Bernie co-sponsored and which the Bush administration opposed that guaranteed full scholarships to veterans, including activated National Guard troops and reservists, with three years of service attending any public, in-state university and expanded benefits for students at private colleges and for graduate schools. Finally, in 2011, he voted for another spending bill, with the understanding that it would fund the conclusion to the war in Iraq as Pr
http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-iraq/#iraq-war-spending-bills-to-aid-veterans-and-vermonters
Tarc
(10,476 posts)I'm taking notes this time, as it is difficult to track the Sanders hypocrisy from one faux outrage to the next.
Thanks!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 making that war illegal. It really helps if one knows some history.
Turin_C3PO
(14,004 posts)Don't give the repukes fodder.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)How exactly? With the help of all the Republicans that her pal DWS got elected?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Even though he said he would continue them?
Human101948
(3,457 posts)Supporting the military once it is committed is the right thing to do. Sending them in the first place is the mistake.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)How many are killed by drug addiction?
How many die during or after our frivolous wars?
How many are killed by abusive and neglectful law enforcement?
How many are killed by poor infrastructure?
How many homeless die of exposure, malnourishment, and violence?
How many are dying of simple depression?
How many young women are killed by a lack of access to gynecological services?
How many die from extreme weather?
How many die from pollution?
I'll bet you none of those people ever gave a shit about suing some gun factories.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Sandy Hook parents sure do though.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)and it will certainly not prevent the next mass killing.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Loudestlib
(980 posts)msongs
(67,413 posts)"This is a very difficult vote. This is probably the hardest decision I have ever had to make -- any vote that may lead to war should be hard -- but I cast it with conviction."
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reddread
(6,896 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)LexVegas
(6,067 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)HUGE