Debbie Wasserman Schultz on MSNBC just said she doesn't want Independents and Republicans...

[onehandle]

...choosing the Democratic Nominee. Only registered members of Our Party should be voting in the DEMOCRATIC PARTY PRIMARY!

I agree and applaud her.

[Live and Learn]

1. What a stupid comment. nt

[reformist2]

74. Her comment is the very reason the founders of this country didn't want party politics.

You don't want factions gathering together to figure out how to shut out others from the political process. To the victor go the spoils. It's our party dammit! These kinds of attitudes are antithetical to a truly democratic society.

In a truly democratic society, EVERY voter would have a say in who the final candidates will be. Not just the people who decided to be members of special clubs.

[onenote]

111. so should every voter be permitted to have a say in the selection of multiple candidates?

I'm honestly trying to figure out how you think this non-party based system would work in terms of the selection of candidates? Would candidates be selected simply by a petition system where anyone and everyone who gets a certain number of signatures gets on the ballot? Could I sign 2 petitions? Twenty petitions? How does it work for every voter to have say in deciding who gets on the ballot?

[yallerdawg]

131. I can't wait for the day...

we dilute the voting to the point where we have a president that 90% of eligible voters did not vote for.

We already have close to 60-75%, and we wonder why elected officials and their institutions have such low favorability's? Nobody voted for them!

At least with the two party system, we have a good chance of a majority vote at least giving us an arguable semblance of a democracy!

[snowy owl]

144. Democracy in name only. We are an oligarchy with a centrist-right and a right-wing party.

[AntiBank]

182. +1000000

[livetohike]

2. Good. Now amend the rules that you have to be a registered Democrat for

for longer than three years before seeking the Democratic nomination.

[Little Star]

8. Bingo!!!!!....

But I'd say 5 years not just 3.

[livetohike]

15. I agree with the five years. Maybe we should start a petition to that effect.

[Loudestlib]

30. I think if you've ever been a republican you shouldn't be able to run as a democrat.

[IamMab]

39. That would knock Elizabeth Warren out of contention. nt

[Loudestlib]

47. A worthy sacrifice. n/t

[IamMab]

50. LOL, and because she's a woman, you get to decide for her, right? Cool story, Bro. nt

[Loudestlib]

54. You think that you should decide that millions of people that want to vote shouldn't be able to?

[IamMab]

59. Citizens are entitled to vote by their Constitutional right in the General Election.

In the primary phase, political parties are private organizations covered by the Constitutional protections on freedom of association. This means that the government has zero right to dictate the policies or processes of a private organization.

Do they not teach basic Constitutional facts at your school? I'd ask for a refund, if I were you.

[Loudestlib]

71. Do they teach reading comprehension at your school?

I didn't say anything about government involvement.

[IamMab]

72. You want me to come back later when you have a valid argument to make? Will that be possible?

Because right now, you're all over the place.

[Loudestlib]

76. Cool story Bro.

[IamMab]

77. Goodbye forever.

[Loudestlib]

86. .

[link:|

[Buzz cook]

78. Not according to Fat Tony and his friends

Scalia was infamous for saying that there was no constitutional right to vote. Might be a good time for a test case.

[JDPriestly]

151. If political parties want primaries that are private, they should pay for them.

Eligibility for elections is determined by state legislatures here in California and in many other states.

Right now, decline to state and registered Democrats can vote for Bernie in the June primary in California.

We are encouraging people who are not registered as Democrats but who want to vote for Bernie to re-register as Democrats because it makes it easier to get your Democratic ballot.

We are following state law. Debbie Wasserman Schultz should be trying to make the Democratic Party larger and more inclusive. She is far too wedded to the Hillary nomination for my comfort.

[moriah]

178. If you recognize that DWS isn't responsible for California law....

....you'll agree that she and they weren't responsible for the California primary being so late?

But you also realize that Sanders called closed primaries nasty things. Those, too, come through state law. So while SBS or DWS can disagree, neither are responsible for NY or CA's voting process, right?



Take care, hope you had a good day...

[JDPriestly]

189. California is a very Democratic state.

I understand that the late primary was a money-saving decision, but it seems odd that all those conservative Southern states vote first and very liberal Oregon and California vote almost last.

[moriah]

184. I think the ones doing it for ratfucming purposes shouldn't.

But you can't tell when that's happening.

So each state party gets to make their own rules. Some, like mine, let whatever ratfuckery that could occur happen. Others, like NY (where I was a registered Green while I lived there, knowing that I was giving up my right if I was still there in 2004 to participate in the Democratic Primary) have viable third parties who have their own primaries for state legislatures, local offices, etc, and have chosen closed primaries.

DWS and SBS are each entitled to their opinion. But personally I agree with DWS.

[inchhigh]

75. And Hillary.

Maybe not a bad idea after all

[SwampG8r]

113. And hillary

[Rosa Luxemburg]

104. so what about the young voters who have just turned 18?

or immigrants who have just got their citizenship?

[Kittycat]

108. Or Democrats who lied to support a fascist Republican War in Iraq

[Hoyt]

118. Thom Hartmann 2013 -- "Congress approved a conditional AUMF, NOT a blank check."

[NewImproved Deal]

155. Exactly. Hillary will bring back the reptilian Neo-Cons...

...and foment perpetual war.

[link:https://consortiumnews.com/2016/02/25/neocon-kagan-endorses-hillary-clinton/|

[scscholar]

49. That would prevent people that are anti-us from parachuting in...

and taking our money.

[frylock]

82. Do it, and watch your precious Party to continue to shrink.

[livetohike]

89. Precious party? This is Democratic Underground, you know- for Democrats?

Yes it is my party since getting the right to vote in 1971! Proud then and proud now.

[frylock]

93. Can you link to the part in the TOS where it says Democrats Only kplzthx?

[livetohike]

96. Try this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus

[frylock]

101. Yeah, where does it say Democrats only?

[livetohike]

107. Right here:

"We are always looking for friendly, liberal people who appreciate good discussions and who understand the importance of electing more Democrats to office. So sign up today!"

So if one is not interested in electing Democrats to office why come here?

[frylock]

130. So it doesn't say "Democrats only" after all.

Fancy that.

[Liz_Estrada]

163. So, if -- hypothetically -- DWS was a member of DU,

she would have violated the TOS by preferring her GOP friends instead of the Democratic candidates in past FL elections???

[onenote]

114. I think requiring people to join the party is what prevents the party from shrinking

If people are complaining that they don't get to have all the benefits of being a party member without joining how does that increase the membership of the party?

[frylock]

132. Retaining members is what keeps the Party from shrinking.

[onenote]

141. I missed the part where anyone said the party wants to expel people

It wants independents to become party members. Not so hard to understand.

[onehandle]

84. Not just registered. For all we know that could allow a Trump.

Must be an elected Democrat.

[Vote2016]

3. Worst. Party. Chair. In. The. History. Of. Parties. Or. The. History. Of. Chairs.

[Baitball Blogger]

5. Such a uniter, that one.

[hack89]

103. Yet she is going to put a Democrat in the White House. Nt

[Vote2016]

137. She certainly had a thumb on the scale during the primary.

[hack89]

139. Perhaps.

but then again, Bernie had plenty of self inflicted problems. Certainly enough to limit his appeal as seen by voter demographics.

[Vote2016]

140. She caused me to stop contributing to the DNC and to give directly to candidates so I guess she

accomplished that.

[hack89]

167. As long as you are supporting Dems

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I don't see a problem. I don't think the DNC is short of money.

[Vote2016]

171. Down ballot, all Democrats. Top of the ballot, we'll see who's nominated, who's the runningmate,

what's the platform. ...

[Cali_Democrat]

4. She's right.

Democrats should be the ones who choose the Democratic nominee.

Independents and Republicans should not be picking our nominee for us.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. So, you would be alright with Independents pushing a third party candidate?

[Little Star]

16. I would because that would go no where &

that is exactly why BS became a faux Dem. Belch!!

[Baitball Blogger]

22. Yikes.

Maybe you should review the history of the Presidential election of 2000.

[B Calm]

17. Crickets. . LOL

[livetohike]

18. If they could organize such a thing, yes go for it. n/t

[Baitball Blogger]

24. I don't think you get it.

They only need to sift away six percent of the vote, or less, and Democratic candidates would struggle through the General.

[livetohike]

91. I get it and I'm not afraid. They would have to come up with a

good candidate that appeals to all Independents.

[TimPlo]

105. Not to all but only the small number

That are in swing states. And that is even a smaller number of the (I) that swing.

[Baitball Blogger]

123. They won't have to appeal to all Independent.

Not sure how much Carter lost by, but it was a third party candidate that didn't help his numbers.

[brush]

21. Good for them if they're able to pull off the hard work to get on the 50 state ballots.

[Baitball Blogger]

27. They don't have to win.

They would just have to be spoilers before most of you would get the point of why this is ridiculous.

[IamMab]

40. "Sore Loser" laws in many states would bar Bernie from the ballot if he tried to go Independent

after running in the Democratic primary.

[Baitball Blogger]

42. Bernie is not the one you need to worry about.

He has already promised not to go that route.

[IamMab]

46. Bernie has promised many things, and delivered none of them. nt

[Baitball Blogger]

48. He has already exceeded all the preliminary expectations.

[brush]

58. I don't happen to think it would be ridiculous. Bring on more parties if it would lead to . . .

coalition building between say a more leftist party and the Dems to totally marginalize the repugs, get the country moving towards a parliamentary system and way from the repugs and their filibusters having a death grip on THE HOUSE AND SENATE.

[onenote]

119. You don't have to be an independent to play the role of spoiler

First, where independents get to vote in primaries nothing requires them to support the candidate of the party if he or she is not the candidate they wanted. They can go off and support whomever they want, if they are so inclined. Second, if you have to join a party to participate in the selection of that party's candidate and don't like the outcome, same thing -- you don't have to support "your" party's candidate if you don't want to.

So I don't see what this debate has to do with being or not being a spoiler. I see plenty of DUers who say they are Democrats saying they will leave the party because their candidate isn't winning the nomination. I saw it four years ago and I'll see it in the future. Those people would be no more loyal to the party if they were independents and didn't get their way.

[Baitball Blogger]

124. Not to mention, that the patterns show that many Democrats are staying home on

election day.

[JoePhilly]

32. Bu-Bye!!

[Baitball Blogger]

36. I just posed a question.

Trying to point out why it's nuts to block out Independents from the primary process.

[JoePhilly]

41. Spare us.

If you want to help pick the GOP nominee, join the GOP.

If you want to help pick the Dem nominee, join the Dem party.

Very simple.

[Baitball Blogger]

52. Many of us tried to do just that.

I'm sure that the unexpected obstacles that Bernie encountered are going to be addressed in the future, possibly in changes to the law.

[JoePhilly]

57. Huh? The parties decide who elects their ...

... nominee.

Not sure what law you plan to change to stop that.

[okasha]

125. Been done.

Green Party. How's their record for national office, now?

[Baitball Blogger]

128. Some believe that Nadar's candidacy drew votes away from Gore.

If that is true, my point is made.

[JDPriestly]

152. We should pick a candidate who attracts the votes of Independents and liberal Republicans.

We need those votes to win in November.

[Cali_Democrat]

153. Obama lost independents and republicans in 2012...

....and he won easily.

[fun n serious]

6. I also agree.

No one can elect a fake democrat that way. Plus, republicans can not play games in our party

[B Calm]

7. and the majority of the Democratic base would like her gone!

[panader0]

10. Gee Debby, Democrats are less than a third of the vote now.

Sure you don't want those Indie votes? What an ignorant tool.

[NanceGreggs]

64. Indies are free to vote in the GE.

Saying "you don't want those Indie votes" in the Party's internal processes has nothing to do with the GE.

[bahrbearian]

11. Of course, they aren't real Americans

[Biaviians]

12. Eww

[mmonk]

13. Isn't she the one that prefers Republicans to progressives?

[Skink]

14. Some states do

And they are happy to claim an increased popular vote total when convenient.

[oldandhappy]

19. You got it Babe. No vote from me for your candidate.

[sufrommich]

20. I agree. It's the nomination for the democratic nominee.

It should be registered democrats making that decision.

[seabeyond]

23. Good for her. Speaking for the Democratic party. Go figure. nt.

[B Calm]

25. Isn't she the one against marijuana legalization?

[Loudestlib]

26. They may reward her by not voting for the democrat in the GE.

Big tent and all......

[NurseJackie]

28. LOVE IT!!! She's ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!

Nobody has a "right" to participate in OUR party activities if they're not members of OUR party. The party gets to decide what the criteria are for membership qualification.

Don't like the party? Want to have nothing to do with it? Want to "send a message" ... then by all means QUIT THE PARTY, be "Independent", or join another party! More power to ya!

Want to be an impulse-voter, want to be a drive-by interferer and "operation chaos" activist without actually joining? Go fuck yourself!

Want to participate in guiding the party direction? Want to help change or direct party policy? Then, by all means... COME ON IN! JOIN THE PARTY and be part of the team! Glad to have ya! Get to work! Help make a difference! WELCOME!!

[hobbit709]

38. I've been voting D for 44 years and never officially joined the party.

Some states don't have a party registration requirement.
As for your attitude, same to you.

[onenote]

127. My state doesn't have a registration option, and I think its stupid

In almost every nominating season there are people who, in an attempt to cause mischief, decide to vote for who they think would be the weaker candidate against the candidate that they prefer.

If someone is going to be the standard bearer for a particular party, why shouldn't who that person is be decided by the members of the party.

[hobbit709]

129. In TX we have open primaries but your voter registration gets stamped as to which one you voted in.

If there is a runoff from the primary, you can't cross over to vote in the runoff for the other party.

[onenote]

142. In Virginia we have nothing.

You ask for whatever ballot you want when you sign in to vote. If the other party was to have a run off, I dont know of anything that would prevent you from voting in it.

[immoderate]

106. Joe Lieberman agrees with you.

Let's keep the Democratic Party undemocratic.

--imm

[hobbit709]

29. I guess she doesn't want them voting for her pal in the GE either.

I don't want to hear one word from her after she screws up another election.

[Warren Stupidity]

31. Payday Loan Debbie?

[bvar22]

33. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz doesn't even want Democrats to win seats in her home state.

She says that would upset her Republican friends:

In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:

Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia

Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez

Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo

All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.



FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: Wasserman Schultz Wants Dem Challengers to Lose
by: James L.
Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 7:15 PM EDT
<snip>

Sensing a shift in the political climate of the traditionally solid-GOP turf of the Miami area, Democrats have lined up three strong challengers -- Miami-Dade Democratic Party chair Joe Garcia, former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, and businesswoman Annette Taddeo to take on Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, respectively.

While there is an enormous sense of excitement and optimism surrounding these candidacies, some Democratic lawmakers, including Florida Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek, are all too eager to kneecap these Democratic challengers right out of the starting gate in the spirit of "comity" and "bipartisan cooperation" with their Republican colleagues:

But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.

"At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant," Wasserman Schultz said.

Now, you'd expect this kind of bullshit from a backbencher like Alcee Hastings, but you wouldn't expect this kind of behavior from the co-chair of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, which is the position that Wasserman Schultz currently holds. Apparently, Debbie did not get Rahm's memo about doing whatever it takes to win:

The national party, enthusiastic about the three Democratic challengers, has not yet selected Red to Blue participants. But Wasserman Schultz has already told the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that if any of the three make the cut, another Democrat should be assigned to the race.

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1537

The bloggers also are furious with Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla.), who similarly refuses to endorse the Democratic challengers to the three Cuban American Republicans.

They are calling for Wasserman Schultz to step down from her leadership role at the DCCC. And they're not letting up, even after one Florida liberal blogger reported that the congresswoman seemed "frustrated" by the blogs and had asked to "please help get them off my back."

This prompted even harsher reaction from perhaps the most influential of the progressive political bloggers, Markos Moulitsas, a.k.a. Kos, founder of Daily Kos, who wrote on his blog Wednesday: "On so many fronts, the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, on Iraq, SCHIP, health care, fiscal responsibility, corruption, civil liberties, and so on. Those three south Florida Republicans are part of that problem. And she's (Wasserman-Schultz) going to be 'frustrated' that people demand she do her job?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903410_3.html

Here are Kos comments on the Wasserman-Schultz betrayal of the Democratic Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/20/480511/-DCCC-Says-Uproar-Over-DWS-Recusal-Much-Ado-About-Nothing




A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly. Now I find that DWS has been PROMOTED from Chair of the Red to Blue Program
to Chair of the DNC. She must be making the "Centrist" Democratic Leadership VERY HAPPY if they are rewarding THIS kind of Party Treason.

bvar22
Cursed with a memory

"I want to thank Debbie Wasserman-Schultz for being an outstanding chair of our party. (Applause.) She is a great partner."--President Obama

With "partners" like this, we don't need Republicans!

[deathrind]

87. Wow.

Never seen this before, thanks for the informative post.

So I some cases it really is one party with two names.

[-none]

109. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is 4 square behind Hillary.

What does that tell us?

[Else You Are Mad]

34. She really said that?

Ok, then maybe in 8 years the next chair of the DNC will say, we only want Democrats that support the pre-chosen, establishment candidate, and they don't want the outsider Democrats voting -- because that is what these newly registered Democrats for Bernie will be. And, as the Boomers die off the Bernie Democrats will become the majority in 8 years. And, now they know what they have to do to take over the party.

I have been a registered Democrat since I was 18 and I find this very disturbing. This is because it is the independent and crossover Republican votes that win the election and it is dangerous to insult and call out those that are needed for us to win the white house.

[CharlotteVale]

35. My state, like plenty others, doesn't have party registration so she makes no sense.

[Waiting For Everyman]

37. She also said the party WELCOMES Bernie as a candidate.

Yeah, I saw the show too. She was very careful not to dump on Bernie, even though Nicole Wallace kept prompting her to do so.

That's indicative of at least some common sense, for a change.

[Renew Deal]

43. That was her personal opinion

Not the parties opinion.

Generally I agree with her. Fully open primaries open it up for the dominant party to pick both candidates.

[beedle]

44. And no women or blacks either

... or Jews .. or Muslims ... or Mexicans ... or people who haven't been Citizens for at least 5 years .. or poor people, no freeloaders .. or Naive Americans ... or rappers and super predators.

Other than that, it's going to be a 'big tent' party.

We can call it the "Small d" democratic club.

[metroins]

45. I agree as well nt

[NorthCarolina]

51. I would support no party affiliation at all. Just show up and vote for who you want to support. nt

[lunamagica]

53. She is right!

[Jester Messiah]

60. She's an idiot. n/t

[highprincipleswork]

55. I know. The Party is so precious! And just because Indpendents are ! !/2 as many people as Democrats

I think it makes no sense at all to sample their opinion.

[Jester Messiah]

56. Yeah, why court independent voters?

It's not like they're key to winning the GE. Oh wait...

[B Calm]

66. LOL +1 DWS is the ruination of the democratic party. Over 50%

of registered voters identify as independents. You get a democratic candidate that inspires independents, you want them to join in the process that way they'll vote for the candidate in November. She really is an idiot.

[leftofcool]

164. You can vote in the GE you just don't get to make party rules.

If you want to be part of deciding who the Democratic Party nominee is, become a Democrat. It's really simple.

[deathrind]

61. Seems to me that...

The definition of "Democrat" needs to be established first.

The Democratic Party has historically been against war, income inequality, healthcare only for some, polluting the environment, laissez-faire economics, spying on citizens...etc. Former Senator Paul Wellstone would be a good example of what the Democratic Party values have been. These are not the position of the candidate DWS/DNC are backing...so what Democrat's is she talking about...DINO's?

[sadoldgirl]

62. If you want only party members to vote

in the pre-eclections, then don't ask for tax payer's
money to fund them; that would mean closed caucuses.

The important part is to make sure that those open
primaries would take place on the same day in any
state, so that no one can vote twice.

[nadinbrzezinski]

83. No, no they need to go all the way

and completely decouple them from any state run event. the temptation is too high to use state run equipment

Hey for all I care, close them to the press, and if they chose to use divination for el dedazo that is fine with me. Just don't call it democratic. And watch voters vote even less in general elections, of for that party.

[Android3.14]

63. You applaud her because you want to suppress the vote, like the candidate you support.

Simple as that.

[NanceGreggs]

65. Totally agree.

Allowing non-Democrats to have a voice in an internal party process is absurd.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

67. And when only die hard Democrats show up on election day....

Thank Hillary and Debbie for President Trump. Dip shits.

[MrMickeysMom]

68. After that, don't forget to rename the party...

The perfect choice...

Know Nothings

Know Nothing
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
American Party
Citizen Know Nothing, image of the Know Nothing party's nativist ideal
Citizen Know Nothing: The Know Nothing Party's nativist ideal.
First Leader Lewis Charles Levin
Founded 1845
Dissolved 1860
Split from Whig Party
Succeeded by Constitutional Union Party
Headquarters New York, New York, U.S.
Secret wing Order of the Star Spangled Banner
Ideology American nationalism
Anti-Catholicism
Republicanism
Nativism
Political position Right-wing
Religion Protestantism (Temperance)
Colors Blue, red, white
(American colors)
Politics of United States
Political parties
Elections
The Native American Party, renamed in 1855 as the American Party, and commonly known as the Know Nothing movement, was an American political party that operated on a national basis during the mid-1850s.

The movement arose in response to an influx of migrants, and promised to "purify" American politics by limiting or ending the influence of Irish Catholics and other immigrants, thus reflecting nativist and anti-Catholic sentiment. It was empowered by popular fears that the country was being overwhelmed by German and Irish Catholic immigrants, whom they saw as hostile to republican values, and as being controlled by the Pope in Rome. Mainly active from 1854 to 1856, the movement strove to curb immigration and naturalization, but met with little success. Membership was limited to Protestant men. There were few prominent leaders, and the largely middle-class membership was fragmented over the issue of slavery.

The most prominent leaders were U.S. Representative Nathaniel P. Banks,[1] and former U.S. Representative Lewis C. Levin. The American Party nominated former President Millard Fillmore in 1856.[2]

[msongs]

69. we have an election where indys can vote...in November nt

[MisterP]

70. 11 Governors, 13 Senators, 69 Reps, and 913 state seats: too bad for them the GE is open to all

[840high]

73. She is beyond stupid.

[nadinbrzezinski]

79. I agree with her. CLOSE THEM and then pay for every one of them

You will have so many caucuses it is not even funny. And don't pretend they are democratic with a small d either.

[frylock]

80. Then don't complain when Independents don't vote for your candidate.

[Karma13612]

94. +100 eom- I even changed my sig to reflect that:

[Samantha]

81. Of course she doesn't want Independents and Republicans voting in the Democratic primaries

Because these are Bernie votes. Limiting the voting to only Dems helps Hillary. She isn't the least bit subtle.

Sam

[La Lioness Priyanka]

85. i agree too. nt

[Jennylynn]

88. Didn't do her any good with me...

I've been a registered Dem for 30 plus years. I voted for Bernie.

[JudyM]

90. Now I will go donate to Tim Canova. Just needed a little extra push. This did it.

[pansypoo53219]

92. so she WANTS to lose?

because the socialist is OBVIOUSLY right of center.

[berni_mccoy]

95. If you do this and exclude candidates like Bernie then you suffer

In the General Election if candidates like Bernie run as independent.

[pansypoo53219]

97. IOWA annointed Kerry. how well did THAT go?

against an IDIOT!

[global1]

98. Does Anyone Know The Total Amount Of Registered Dems In This Country?.....

Is that number available anywhere? I keep hearing that Hillary got more Dem votes than Bernie did during the primaries - but I'm wondering what is the percentage against the total Dems in the country? My guess is that it is not a very big percentage of the total Dems.

Then one can go on saying that - well Bernie even has a lower percentage of Dem votes against the total.

But what would happen if we had all open primaries and Repubs and Indy's were able to vote? My guess here is that Bernie's total votes in the primaries could be more than Hillary's.

Just thinking out loud here.

[HooptieWagon]

99. She also previously said grass roots activists shouldn't determine the candidate.

Apparantly Little Debbie thinks the elite oligarch's should pick the candidates....and us rabble better fall in line and know our place. That might be why the Democratic Party is shrinking in registration, and has lost Senate, House, Governors, and State and Local offices under her watch. And she'll burn it to the ground as long as it gets Hillary elected.

[farleftlib]

183. You said it, Hooptie!

Just like Hillary will burn this country to the ground to fill the Clinton Foundation coffers.
Why be just wealthy when you can be obscenely wealthy on the backs of the taxpayers.

The Bushes had the S & Ls and the Clintons have their "charitable"(sic) foundation.

[Zen Democrat]

100. There's no party registration at all in Texas. Period. Never has been.

I've never voted for even one Republican for ANY office, because calling yourself a Republican is disqualifying IMO. But I'm no member of any party.

This is one of the most stupid things DWS has ever said, and there's lots of competition for stupidest.

[Eric J in MN]

188. 22 states have no party registration.

It makes it easier to vote.

It avoids a possible data error which can disenfranchise. In the AZ primary, people who were Registered Democrats for decades were told that they were listed as Independents and couldn't vote (except with a provisional ballot which won't be counted based in the same data error.)

[pat_k]

102. So much for party building

[fun n serious]

156. Sanders is the one that ended it

A contested convention means he is not endorsing Hillary...

[pat_k]

157. Let's talk July 29.

I'm betting he endorses her if she's nominated.

On Edit: Oh, BTW, re: OP, with her comments, DWS told 36 states "You're doing it wrong."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511885358

[fun n serious]

158. It's too late

Calendar is too close to the GE Nomination 3 months left to win a GE...

[fun n serious]

159. Why not have only registered Dems?

We should be the only ones to be able to nominate our own nominee. Rules are at state level.. It is OUR nominee to nominate. I would not want a republican having a voice in our nomination.

[yodermon]

110. So it's a club more than a philosophy or set of principles.

Got it.

[SwampG8r]

112. Then the party can foot the bill for them

No state should spend a damn dime in support of a private club.

[DrDan]

115. exactly right - DEMOCRATIC nominee - chosen by Democrats

[bigwillq]

116. I don't agree with her

I want my vote to influence every election there is. I want to vote in every race that affects me, like the R and D primary. The R NOMINEE, if they win the White House, will affect my life, so I want to have a say in electing that R nominee.

[amborin]

117. ROFL! After June, the Dem Party will be about 2% of the electorate

[angrychair]

120. So, same day registration good enough

Trying to figure out the end game here.
Is there a test required?
Do they have to prove they volunteered a certain number of hours to Democratic causes first?
Trying to determine how being registered for 10 seconds over 10 months means anything, in and of itself.
The only time I've ever got an email or phone call was to ask me for money, that's it. So me being registered, means what?

[Funtatlaguy]

121. Timcanova.com

Go Tim Go!!!!!!!!!!!

[w4rma]

122. These "New" Democrats are are anti-democratic Republicans. (nt)

[kiva]

126. Good for her!

It really put us independents in our places, doesn't it? So no complaints about turnout in November.

[Kip Humphrey]

133. republicons I can see (to prevent dirty politics), but Independents? You can't win without them.

The Democratic Party should never be an exclusive party, it ain't no damned country club!

Debbie Wassermann Schultz is destroying the Democratic party.

[Odin2005]

134. Says a Corporate tool who supported Pukes over Dems in Florida.

[Spirochete]

135. She doesn't want Republicans?

Well, she's certainly changed her tune, hasn't she? Now she just wants Democrats that think like Republicans...

[Maru Kitteh]

136. THANK YOU DWS. Now under the bus with you!

But she's right. DEMOCRATS need to select the Dem nominee. Period. I don't care if you change your registration to indie the day after the primary. Register as a Dem if you want a say in our nominee.

Everyone is invited to the party, but if you can't be bothered to RSVP, don't bitch when the menu items are chosen for you.

[Warren DeMontague]

160. No, nobody liked her very much before, either.

Chris Christie might like her. They share a committment to putting pot smokers in prison.

But for the rest of us, you cant really go "under the bus" if you werent on it in the first place.

[nolawarlock]

138. I agree with her.

If we want a multi-party system, make a multi-party system. Don't paint a duck white and call it a swan.

[Logical]

143. I guess she does not want independents in the GE either. Weird. nt

[snowy owl]

145. Very good point.

[Tiggeroshii]

146. Because what we need in a shrinking party is more people

To have a reason to not join.

[TheDormouse]

147. How long does one have to be a registered Dem to qualify

under DWS's ideal world rules?

[Warren DeMontague]

148. But she's happy to work with Sheldon Adelson when it comes to sending granny to prison for eating a

pot brownie to ease some chemo nausea.

[Autumn]

149. Then only democrats should vote for democrats in the GE if Hill wins.

I'm good with that since I'm not a registered dem.

[phleshdef]

150. And thats a lesson in how NOT to build a bigger coalition for the Democratic party.

This is another reason DWS should have been booted after the 2014 ass kicking. She is not good at this job. She is fundamentally in over her head and doesn't understand how to carry out the most important goal, and that goal is to grow the party in both voters and votes.

[mhatrw]

154. Democratic party members are complacent fools fatted at corporate troughs. nt

[Lil Missy]

161. she's right.

[B Calm]

162. Over 50% of American voters are registered independent because they feel neither party

represents them anymore. Along comes a candidate that inspires them and they want to help select that candidate to the top of the ticket and vote for the candidate in November. It seems only right they should participate in the nomination process if the party wants their vote in November. Open primary alows this voter to vote in the selection process and It helps grow the party, but closed primaries refuses the voter the basic right to vote and slams the door in the voters face. A closed primary is right-wing authoritarian disallowing voters in the selection process and DWS is an idiot!

[Demsrule86]

170. So they can make their own party

Go for it...but Democrats should choose Democrats.

[B Calm]

173. Better yet let the conservative dems get the hell out and create their own party.

[Demsrule86]

174. We are Democrats

Sanders is an independent and will run again for the Senate as such...doubt he will have a career left but that is the plan at the moment.

[B Calm]

176. You can not fool me. Conservatives belong in the Republican party!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

186. Sanders is what the Democratic Party USED TO BE, back when Franklin Roosevelt was president.

I'm a lifelong yellow dog Democrat, my parents were yellow dog Democrats, my grandmother thought Roosevelt hung the moon.

I cast my first vote for President for Jimmy Carter in 1976.

Bernie Sanders is a New Deal Democrat, pushing for a living wage and the policies of the New Deal that Roosevelt got passed. Plus he's adding policies for the present time, like taxing Wall Street to pay for college and an end to the prison-industrial complex and an end to imperialist wars for profit.

General Smedley Butler spelled that out long ago in "War is a Racket". It's about fighting wars for big corporations, like taking over the Phillippines and Hawaii for Dole Pineapple.

I said "Bernie Sanders is a New Deal Democrat" and that got me banned from the Hillary group.

The problem is that none of us are old enough to have seen a real New Deal Democrat because that was happening eighty years ago.

I didn't leave the Democratic party. The Democratic party became corporate and bought off by plutocrats/oligarchs, and there is nobody that represents actual liberals except Bernie.

[Demsrule86]

187. I know what a new deal Democrat is

The truth is most of them have passed...the ones who lived through it. Keep in mind that when Bill Clinton was elected, we had not won the presidency for 12 years. Clinton never had a majority either. We can thank Perot for his election. So Bill Clinton stopped the GOP and paved the way for Obama. You can't run as a new deal Dem when the country is trending Reagan Democrat. That is the reality. The country has moved left I think. Hillary Clinton will do the same things that Bernie would do. She wants a larger minimum wage, doesn't want war etc. But that is neither here or there. She won. You have to accept that. Trump would destroy any chance for progressive change. With divided government, the courts are what matters. That is where the first battle for progressive change will be fought. As for the Hillary group, that is supposed to be an escape from bitter general primary shit...the Bernie groups ban and ignore people too. I would not take it personally.

General Butler is an interesting guy. Did you know he saved our democracy during the 30's by ratting out the big business types who had planned to depose Roosevelt and install a fascist dictator (businessman's revolt)...General Butler was supposed to rally the troops (Armed forces)and be the puppet dicatator...instead he ratted them out to Congress. And those of you, including Bernie, that cry because the banks were not brought to justice in 08... I should note that Roosevelt did the same...he wanted our economic system to survive. The perpetrators of the businessman's revolt were not brought to justice. Although, they were guilty of treason. There is a record of the congressional hearing if you are interested.

[democrank]

165. Third Way Democrats should all make a copy of reply #33

and study it in their spare time.

[Katashi_itto]

166. Sounds great ok, no vote for your canidate from me.

[Vinca]

168. That was a dumb thing to say.

Especially since the fastest growing group of voters is "Independent." I imagine those same Independents and Republicans, who might have voted for a Democrat over Trump, will be happy to stay at home in the general election.

[Demsrule86]

169. I completely agree

Democrats should choose the nominee...here in Ohio when President Obama was running for his second term-12, I voted Ron Paul in the GOP primary to repay them for operation chaos in 08

[morningfog]

172. No to repubs, yes to independents/unaffiliated voters.

[LondonReign2]

175. Usually it is the Republicans that try to suppress the votes

Oh wait, if it quacks like a duck...

[Purveyor]

177. Don't need those stink'n indies!!! Thats the ticket "little debbie". eom

[wendylaroux]

179. whew....! I thought you were gonna say to get married!

[workinclasszero]

180. Most democrats want Hillary as our nominee

Republicans and libertarians are trying to screw us by voting for Sanders in open primaries.

[jmousso75]

181. Debbie Wasserman Schultz on MSNBC just said she doesn't want Independents and Republicans...

Fine, I won't vote for her "girl" in November

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

185. Yet she expects to vote for her candidate in November. Brilliant move.

[PowerToThePeople]

190. DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz joins hands with GOP

DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz joins hands with GOP in assault on Elizabeth Warren’s consumer protection agency

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/01/dnc_chair_debbie_wasserman_schultz_joins_hands_with_gop_in_assault_on_elizabeth_warrens_consumer_protection_agency/

I couldn't give a fuck less what that DINO thinks.

[B Calm]

192. These right-wing DINO's need to create their own party or join the GOP!

[Jamaal510]

191. That's how it should be in

every state: closed primaries only. Only people who are Democrats (and only those who didn't just become Dems on voting day) should be part of our primary process. No ratfucking. The idea of closed primaries isn't new, and other parties have closed primaries as well. The outrage over this is just foolish.