Having to admit you were wrong really sucks but here goes:

[Live and Learn]

I never should have voted for either Clinton in the past. Their betrayal of progressive values did immeasurable harm to the country.

I apologize for being snookered by them.

[pkdu]

1. Cool story Bro. Nt

[mooseprime]

2. hard to imagine

a more impossible place to say this than here.


good on ya.

[seabeyond]

3. Whatever....

[KingFlorez]

4. So dramatic

[Punkingal]

5. Yes, and defending Bill like I used to was wrong as well.

I shudder when I think how I stuck up for him for so many years when he did so much to screw up the Democratic party and the country.

[madokie]

12. What you said

I could have said also

[SCantiGOP]

85. Hey folks,

welcome to the anti-Democratic Party.

[Cal33]

88. There are two Democratic Party wings: The Establishment and The Progressives. Which wing

are you referring to? Not likely both -- although Clinton tries. She calls herself Progressive,
when she is known to be Establishment.

[SCantiGOP]

90. I'm referring to the OP

which said he/she should not have voted for Clinton in 1992 (thus supporting Bush) and won't vote for Clinton in 2016 (thus supporting Trump). Not really very complicated.

[hrmjustin]

6. Looking for a pat on the back or street cred?

[artislife]

25. S/he is getting both. nt

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

28. I'll give her cred for honesty.

[NanceGreggs]

29. Lookin' for "thread cred".

There's a lot of that going around lately.

[hrmjustin]

31. Yes. I imagine it will be like this till the moment he leaves the race.

The drama will continue.

[Logical]

72. No, just showing intelligence. nt

[Land of Enchantment]

7. I wanted Jerry Brown to win against Bubba but that

got shot down fast. Held my nose b/c I was a 'good' Democrat.

[StevieM]

48. Back in 1992 Jerry Brown ran on a flat tax. (eom)

[TexasBushwhacker]

73. I liked Bob Kerrey in '92 n/t

[oldandhappy]

8. Brave post

Also voted for Bill. But did not vote Hillary previously. Voted Bill because of all the years of dumb. He seemed smart. I will confess it has taken this primary for me to realize all the manipulations now and in former years.

[onenote]

9. So you regret the fact that George HW Bush wasn't reelected?

And that Bob Dole didn't succeed him?

You pine for John "we need a constitutional amendment to prevent same sex marriage" Spencer?

[artislife]

26. Maybe we regret out of the field this is what floated to the top. nt

[enid602]

10. pathetic

Pathetic. No wonder Hill has moved onto the GE,, and has put the primary on the back berner, so to speak.

[Nye Bevan]

11. Did you vote for Al Gore in 2000 and do you also regret that vote? (nt)

[artislife]

27. I do.

I was mad at my boss for voting for Nader, but now I get it.

[StevieM]

49. So the Democrats and liberals who voted for Nader voted the right way?

I'm sorry you feel that way. Personally, I think that throwing the election to Bush did incredible damage to our nation.

[nadinbrzezinski]

52. I agree and the eay you also blame the Conservadems that voted for Bush

which by far were more than Nader voters, and the USSC and how manipulated elections are, I will believe you care.

Until then. We live with pretend elections and pretend voting. And I do feel sorry for you, since you do not get this.

[StevieM]

56. Your pity means a lot to me. It is very thoughtful of you.

Could you edit your post so that I can read your intended words more completely? You had few misspellings that left me unclear at times.

There is nothing pretend about the Supreme Court justices that Hillary will give us, including Merrick Garland. And there is nothing pretend about the assault on Roe vs. Wade.

[nadinbrzezinski]

63. Good,

and no I will not edit squat for you

but I will do this at you



You guys are always humorous

[Silver_Witch]

81. You mean the fact...

That Hillary Clinton said she was willing to use abortion access as a bargaining chiomto "work" with republicans. I agree woman's rights are in danger!

[synergie]

13. Sure but you've been snookered by the NRA's man who betrays progressive values all the

time when it suits him and his votes have done immeasurable harm to the country, from the votes for regime change, to the crime bill, to those that harm rape victims, deny justice to the families of gun victims and oppose Amber alerts.

When shall we expect an apology for being snookered by someone owned by the NRA?

[Armstead]

32. How silly

[synergie]

37. Agreed, you should have a little talk with your friend, the despondency with the loss

and the way the campaign is floundering seems to be getting to him. Very sad really.

[Armstead]

39. Almost as silly

[leftinportland]

35. Very silly...

You'll learn sooner or later.

[synergie]

38. To be as silly as that poster? Nah, I'll give that a pass, regression is a bad thing.

Someday perhaps you and your friends can learn some recent history and then you shall realize why so many have been pointing out your errors and open laughing at your interesting views that don't seem to be based on any actual knowledge.

The things you've been fed about Hillary by haters are not fact based and the Bernie's record isn't what you've been told either. That's the risk you run when you don't do your own homework and simply let partisans feed you stories.

[NRaleighLiberal]

14. we learn as we grow - and with age comes wisdom.

I also think that we end up with some pretty awful choices. American politics is so often the lesser of evils.

[deathrind]

24. 👆 This... x💯

[nadinbrzezinski]

64. And part of that is that MOST americans treat elections as a football game

not as seriously, and the matter of life and death, (like now) that they can be.

[NRaleighLiberal]

66. TV has anesthetized so many people - they wouldn't know reality from fantasy if it knocked

them in the head!

Trump is the intersection of reality with reality shows for so many....quite disgusting and pathetic.

[nadinbrzezinski]

67. Trump is a lot of things

that is just one of them. And we took him very seriously from the git go.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. There is no marriage equality without Justices Breyer and Ginsburg.

[StevieM]

50. +1. And for that matter, there is no Roe vs. Wade without them. (eom)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

55. And no Affordable Care Act.

[alittlelark]

45. I think they are saying they are SICK of voting for 'the lesser'....

....leaves a nasty taste in your mouth.... NASTY...

I get it....

[Lizzie Poppet]

61. Before calling other DU'ers stupid...

...you might want to learn to write a coherent, grammatically-correct sentence.

Just sayin'...

[LonePirate]

16. You were expecting progressive values from a governor of a southern state back in 1992?

While there are definitely progressive citizens in the south, the region as a whole, is not known for electing progressive candidates to statewide offices.

[JaneyVee]

18. Ruth Bader Ginsburg disagrees.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. I read she is the 13th most liberal member in the history of the court.

[Live and Learn]

22. You found the one good thing Bill accomplished, too bad she couldn't do crap about his

third way policies that have crippled this country.

[JaneyVee]

33. Lets see...

25 million jobs. Longest stretch of peacetime in US history. Lowest Af-American unemployment rate in US history. Nominated 2 most liberal justices in US history. Taxed the rich. And left a budget surplus.

[sheshe2]

36. Why on why did he hate America so?^^^

[redstateblues]

68. 8 years of peace and prosperity-It was awful

hopefully we won't have to go through that again.

[Live and Learn]

71. And 24 years of oligarchy and making himself rich! nt

[randome]

84. Right. A fleet of yachts and a mansion in every state. No difference btw. Clinton & Trump, right?

Can't we all just agree that Hamilton is one kick-ass musical? http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hamilton-tony-awards
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[Happyhippychick]

19. Yeah. I should've voted for George H.W. Bush and Bob Dole, too.

Oh wait. I thought I was trolling freerepublic. It's getting so hard to distinguish.

[synergie]

40. Such an accurate statement! In content and tone!

[FlatBaroque]

20. I always feel very skeevy

when I think of my prior support for the most corrupt couple ever in American politics.

[synergie]

41. Relax, when the primaries are over, that couple will go back to VT and you can

stop flogging yourself for supporting such corruption.

[jwirr]

23. +1

[840high]

30. I'll join you - they

fooled me, too.

[Armstead]

34. They're good at snookering

[Zen Democrat]

42. I voted for Clinton because Jerry Brown was Mr. Small is Better

and Paul Tsongas was Mr. Cut Government Spending. Bill Clinton positioned himself as the liberal in the race. Of course I voted for Clinton, who else was there?

[StevieM]

51. Excellent point. Brown and Tsongas both ran on fairly conservative platforms.

Tsongas was something of a Reagan Retread (Clinton's words). And Jerry Brown ran on a flat tax.

[procon]

43. Your apology doesn't matter; you are guilty forever and nothing you say will change that. nt

[tokenlib]

44. Perot was right about NAFTA..

I feel stupid for trusting Clinton....
I didn't know " Putting People First " meant the 1%..

[alittlelark]

46. 'People' = those that pay to play....

...wish I had had that epiphany earlier....

[pampango]

76. Trump is the modern Perot. Both are 'renegade' republicans. Only Trump be the official party nominee

The republican base has wanted to 'rip up' NAFTA for a long time. Trump is giving them what they have long wanted.

[Hydra]

47. I was too young to vote for them at the time, but I would have voted for them had I been able

And I defended them endlessly...I'll blame my lack of experience and not having access to real news sources for understanding the situation so poorly.

I do think that I became a more savvy and less gullible citizen due to the Clintons, so I do have to thank them for that.

[stonecutter357]

53. seems legit !

[beachbumbob]

54. So electing bush or trump is your intent then?

They will do great progressive work...lol

[StevieM]

57. Thankfully enough Democrats and liberals realized the error of their ways in 2000 and didn't repeat

their mistakes. They voted for Nader.

And we all have to live with the results to this day.

[Lizzie Poppet]

58. No worries! Bill fooled me the first time, too.

Impressionable 18-year-old and all...I guess it's a good thing that philandering sack of shit only got my vote. Of course, I'm not remotely his type...

[RiverLover]

59. Live & learn, Live and Learn. ;)

I'm in the same boat. Huge mistake. But at least we're no longer being suckered in by the false Democratic image of the best republican ever like most people. If the media did their job, everyone would know.

[Funtatlaguy]

60. The Telecommunications Act of 1996

Paved the way for massive media consolidation and the advent of Fox News.
The new documentary "The brainwashing of my Dad" really points this out.
A lot of unintended consequences of this Act.
I would hope that it is one of Bill Clintons major regrets.

[TDale313]

62. He was the first President I was old enough to vote for

I supported him- voted for, volunteered. I got the chance to hear him speak at my school, and even shook his hand. Whatever that fabled "it" factor is, he had it in spades. I liked him, I liked Hillary. Through much of the 90's and into the 2000s I defended and admired them, flaws and all.

But time gives you perspective, and the consequences of many of the Clinton policies have been disastrous. Free trade, welfare reform, tough on crime legislation, repealing Glass Steegal- these had real lasting negative effects. And their basic philosophy of triangulation and pulling the party further and further right needs to be fought against tooth and nail.

[Reter]

65. I voted for Dole in 1996, and don't regret it one bit

Probably no 9/11, and no Iraq/Afgan wars. And best of all, probably no Bush II.

[Demsrule86]

75. Why are you here?

This is Democratic Underground...not Free Republic.

[Reter]

80. Because it wasn't about Dole

It was about stopping the nightmare of the Clinton's. If no 9/11 means Dole became President back then, then it's worth a Republican.

[frazzled]

87. Then the Gingrich Revolution could have been complete

and the Contract With America enshrined in our values for decades to come! Good move. You should be so proud of your logical thinking.

Jayzus, sometimes I fear for the sanity of the nation when I read posts like this.

[NurseJackie]

69. Ha! :-D ... and ...

Apology accepted?

[OnionPatch]

70. I don't regret voting for Clinton.

It was him or something much worse.
I do regret that we didn't have a better choice. And that we have a "winner take all" political system that pretty much guarantees we will always be voting for the lesser of two evils.

[Demsrule86]

74. I am sure you do regret

not voting for George Bush or Bob Dole...Republicans...ah well there is always Trump. Trump or Clinton...easy choice for you...no doubt.

[Firebrand Gary]

78. Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

[DrDan]

79. Trump - no snookering there - goforit

[kgnu_fan]

82. Thank you for writing that. Wisdom gained.

[Smarmie Doofus]

83. Ditto. In the 90's there was a feeling:

"the barbarians are at the gate." The barbarians being Gingrich, Buchanan, Falwell, etc. the so-called cultural conservatives.

The Clintons served a useful historical function in the sense that they blunted the force of that threat to the point where it's been pretty much rendered irrelevant.

But support for Clintonism on that basis alone obscured what they were doing ( and NOT doing) socially and economically.

In any case... their time is WAY passed. 40% plus of the DEM primary electorate realizes it and much of Trump's fan base is..... one hopes.... figuring it out. Or at least SEEMS to be.

Whatever else happens... this election cycle has seen the end of a particular brand of DEM Party politics.

Take a good look. It won't be back. It's an anachronism

Which is not to say that it MIGHT not be replaced by something even more horrendous. Just that it's time has passed.

[islandmkl]

86. that wasn't a 'snooker' situation...is was more of 'three card monte' in nature....

and we were all marks...but there were plenty of shills hanging around the game to keep us drawn in...

[Betty Karlson]

89. THAT was a believable conversion story.

So much more sincere than the Hill-bully come-to-Jesus-by-David-Brock's-Talking-Points run-off-the-mill pieces.

I share your shame: I can't believe that once upon a time, I thought the Clintons to be to my left.

[Mike Nelson]

91. The Clintons...

...steered the country out of the Regan-Bush era, which many people actually liked (shudder). We need to keep going in the Democrats' direction.