71% of Independents are either Conservative or 'Moderate.'

[onehandle]

I don't want them picking the nominee for my Liberal Party.

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[sadoldgirl]

1. I don't know where you got those statistics from.

Could you give us a link?

[Warren Stupidity]

2. 76% of Independents are either Liberal or 'Moderate.'

I want them voting for our candidate.

[JeffHead]

3. I see what you did there.

Nice! And I agree.

[Dem2]

4. Yeah, well this very liberal independent can in my state :)

If they changed the laws, however, I'd switch my registration to Democrat.

[TM99]

5. This simply is not accurate.

42% identify as independents, 29% as Democrats, 26% as Republicans

Democrats Maintain Edge When Independents' Leanings Are Factored In

Although political independents lack a strong enough attachment to either party to say they identify as a Republican or a Democrat, most are inclined to favor one party over the other and generally vote that way. After initially asking Americans if they identify as a Republican, a Democrat or an independent, Gallup then probes independents as to whether they lean toward the Republican or the Democratic Party. The combined percentages of party identifiers and leaners give a sense of the relative strength of the two major parties in the U.S., because in most elections, voters are asked to choose a candidate from one of the two parties.

Last year, in addition to the 29% of Americans who identified as Democrats, another 16% said they were independents but leaned toward the Democratic Party, for a combined total of 45% Democrats and Democratic leaners among the U.S. population. Likewise, 26% of Americans identified as Republicans and an additional 16% identified as independents but leaned toward the Republican Party, for a combined total of 42% Republicans and Republican leaners.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/188096/democratic-republican-identification-near-historical-lows.aspx?g_source=independents&g_medium=search&g_campaign=tiles

Independents pretty much break even except for about 10% who fall in the category of uninterested, confused, bi-political, etc.

So given these close numbers, if you push away the independents, you risk losing the 16% necessary to beat the GOP in November and again in the 2018 midterms.

This is reality, not some made up graphic you are posting here.

[Stallion]

9. Stale Voter ID Stats: D: 35.5 I:31.1 R:28.1

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/party-identification

[TM99]

12. Your data only goes up to October of 2015.

The data I provided was updated as of January 2016.

Look also at some of the polling sources who are not considered reliable like Ramussen.

Take into account that in order for independents to vote in closed and semi-closed primaries, they temporarily register as Democrats or Republicans.

Data in January of this year would show all of the independents for instance in Arizona, like myself, who changed to Democratic in order to vote in the preference in March. Most of us have since returned to our previous orientations. That has not yet been factored in or accounted for.

The real story will become very clear this summer.

[Stallion]

13. No-Incorrect Again-Pollster has 14 Polls in April 2016 Alone

scroll down to Polls listed below and you can even open up the tab for more polls

Currently tracking 1,255 polls from 87 pollsters

[TM99]

15. Even with those April polls

some are simply not reliable.

In any case, independents are trending up and fairly evenly split in their party leanings, so my point stands that independent leftists are needed by the Democratic party if it wants to win the GE.

[inchhigh]

6. could they possibly do worse

Than the current frontrunner? The most anti-worker conservative war hawk weve ever nominated?

[seabeyond]

8. Anti worker, my ass. What bullshit.

[inchhigh]

17. WalMart board of directors alone...

ought to disqualify someone from membership in the democratic party, much less leadership of it. But considering her terrible history on Trade that may have been the least she did to destroy the working class. The fact that someone feels this is even debatable shows how hypnotized and misinformed her supporters can be. She is quite simply the most anti-worker candidate the Democratic party has ever had.

[seabeyond]

19. Clinton pushed ecology and women into management while on board. Voted no on cafta, the only trade

Agreement she voted on.

[seabeyond]

7. Nope, I do not want them to pick our candidate either. Libertarian or bagger. Both Repugs, just

cannot call themselves that so they claim, Independent.

[KingFlorez]

10. As long as the votes are for him, Sanders doesn't care who they are

A large percentage of his votes were likely Operation Chaos type voters or right-leaning independents who don't vote Democratic anyway, but pulled a Democratic ballot just to vote against Clinton.

[Andy823]

16. Exactly.

Republicans were encouraged to vote for Bernie and donate to his campaign early way last year. They did that because they "want" to run against him in the primary, not against Clinton. Karl Rove has a library full of things to go after Bernie with, if he were to get the nomination. Rove also ran adds "against" Hillary helping Bernie. You don't have to be a rocket scientist of figure out way they are doing this.

[kiva]

11. You incorrectly read the pie chart.

The article specifies that that particular chart represents all voters, not independents:

From an ideological standpoint, 29 percent of voters consider themselves to be “liberal,” 24 percent “conservative,” and 47 percent “moderate.”

The author plays pretty fast and loose with the data, clumping independents in with parties that seem to represent them, even though the voters themselves reject that party label.

So a pretty worthless article, but here's the link for anyone who wants to take a look:
http://republic3-0.com/myth-independent-voter-stefan-hankin/

[aikoaiko]

14. But Hillary is a self-declared moderate -- oh no, onehandle, what are you going to do?

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Feel the bern.

[Joob]

18. Even if the charts right what you said is wrong. Think about it.

They'd lean more towards Hillary than Bernie and you're basically telling them to fuck off.

[Maru Kitteh]

20. TRUTH.

[Jitter65]

21. Well, then, they should be voting for Hillary, right? nt