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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:29 AM May 2016

So we have a candidate that used creative writing to get a buck. We can't talk about what the man

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

wrote, without a hide. Now, this is the ironic part. Du and Sanders supporters are saying this subject of Sanders actions in his 30's is so offensive, that we must hide it? We cannot talk about it? Yet, we want to put him in front of the nation to actually be vetted.

Interesting that a fact about Sanders is not allowed to be discussed in a primary forum and needs a hide.

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So we have a candidate that used creative writing to get a buck. We can't talk about what the man (Original Post) seabeyond May 2016 OP
I have had numerous posts directly quoting Sanders hidden. It's amazing. NCTraveler May 2016 #1
Yes, much of his 30's would get us that hide, but the Republican would use. Clinton though has been seabeyond May 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #3
Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil when it comes to Sanders. livetohike May 2016 #4
Must we remind you? Buzz Clik May 2016 #5
Personally pinebox May 2016 #6
Thank you. ScreamingMeemie May 2016 #24
Knock yourself out. I prefer non-fiction though. Broward May 2016 #7
When Sanders supporters bring up Clinton's 'Goldwater 60s', you're letting yourselves in for this. randome May 2016 #8
I don't think it's necessary to dig that up, the IWR is recent history... Human101948 May 2016 #29
Recent Fiction Camp Clinton Endorses: Bluenorthwest May 2016 #9
I haven't heard Hillary refer to Bernie's early life even once. But the GOP will pull out all stops Jitter65 May 2016 #10
He's still evolving on womens issues. nt LexVegas May 2016 #11
That's why its called community standards. Its usually in the way that one posts and not content. aikoaiko May 2016 #12
All posts regarding Bernie's past must be approved by the Ministry of Truth. BootinUp May 2016 #13
Why are you folks so obsessed with Bernie? Vinca May 2016 #14
my personal take on this obsession with that piece of literature is: Hiraeth May 2016 #16
Don't know, because he and his people are still trashing Clinton, the Democratic Party? I thought it seabeyond May 2016 #18
Is it always a simple "tit for tat" with you? "You said this, so I'll say THIS?" cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #26
Has he conceded yet so we can move on? He's had a week to end the attacks on Hillary BootinUp May 2016 #25
If she's indicted, then he could be the nominee! scscholar May 2016 #31
Oh trust me it's all over Facebook, Twitter and other social media ismnotwasm May 2016 #15
BSers should enjoy the jury abuse while they can. It's not going to last forever. nt IamMab May 2016 #17
You never ever tout your candidate AgingAmerican May 2016 #19
With the Clinton bashin', lyin'... ? I do not start threads for serious conversation. I often call seabeyond May 2016 #20
Right? ismnotwasm May 2016 #21
Vetting Bernie not allowed. per sec 1 art ll of DU progressive bible. JaneyVee May 2016 #22
If there was adult literary analysis happening, maybe Prism May 2016 #23
I have seen it numerous times. HassleCat May 2016 #27
I have read repeatedly that Sanders streangth is that he has always believed as he does now. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #28
Feel free to talk about it... TCJ70 May 2016 #30
this is what the DNC wants out in front -someone who would sexualuze a child to save her rapist azurnoir May 2016 #32
Locking after a review by forum hosts Omaha Steve May 2016 #33
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. I have had numerous posts directly quoting Sanders hidden. It's amazing.
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:31 AM
May 2016

And I'm not talking youthful indiscretions here. I'm talking quotes from in his thirties.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. Yes, much of his 30's would get us that hide, but the Republican would use. Clinton though has been
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:33 AM
May 2016

hands off to the man. I cannot say it was reciprocated.

Response to seabeyond (Original post)

livetohike

(24,418 posts)
4. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil when it comes to Sanders.
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:42 AM
May 2016

The GOP would tear him apart on many fronts. The fact that his supporters here hide anything negative about Sanders is a sign they don't want his past (before age 40 when he became Mayor of Burlington) known.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
5. Must we remind you?
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:43 AM
May 2016
 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
6. Personally
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:44 AM
May 2016

I don't give a shit about this, it was ages ago, the same way I don't give a shit if Hillary was once a Goldwater Girl.
This crap is meaningless and nothing less than "Gotchya Politics".

We have real issues to discuss, like people who can't afford to feed their families and those who will die in red states because they haven't expanded Medicaid.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
24. Thank you.
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:21 PM
May 2016

Broward

(1,976 posts)
7. Knock yourself out. I prefer non-fiction though.
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:46 AM
May 2016

I highly recommend the transcript for Hillary's speech in support of the IWR.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. When Sanders supporters bring up Clinton's 'Goldwater 60s', you're letting yourselves in for this.
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:49 AM
May 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
[/center][/font][hr]

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
29. I don't think it's necessary to dig that up, the IWR is recent history...
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:33 PM
May 2016

and damning enough.

"I made a mistake!" Hillary exclaimed.

The American soldiers and Iraqis that suffered for your political ambitions may not be so understanding however.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. Recent Fiction Camp Clinton Endorses:
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:08 AM
May 2016


March 2016. Fresh off the tip of her tongue.....fully fictional praise for Republican villains coupled with an aggressive denial of the courageous activists of that time. She stated this fiction as if it was fact.
 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
10. I haven't heard Hillary refer to Bernie's early life even once. But the GOP will pull out all stops
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:52 AM
May 2016

I can just imagine what Trump will do with this stuff. If the Trump campaign thought for one minute that Bernie would be the nominee they would be all over this and more. Very telling that they are not.

LexVegas

(6,962 posts)
11. He's still evolving on womens issues. nt
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:01 PM
May 2016

aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
12. That's why its called community standards. Its usually in the way that one posts and not content.
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

BootinUp

(51,635 posts)
13. All posts regarding Bernie's past must be approved by the Ministry of Truth.
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

Vinca

(54,330 posts)
14. Why are you folks so obsessed with Bernie?
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:04 PM
May 2016

I'm a Bernie supporter and it's rather obvious to me he won't be the nominee. By carping on and on and on and on and on about all his negatives, you're alienating people from supporting your candidate. With supporters like you, who needs enemies?

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
16. my personal take on this obsession with that piece of literature is:
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:08 PM
May 2016

they find it titillating their own selves.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
18. Don't know, because he and his people are still trashing Clinton, the Democratic Party? I thought it
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:09 PM
May 2016

ironic that a history of Sanders to be stated as insignificant, ... No wait, proving him a feminist hero, would then be hidden because ti is insulting the man. He can do and say it, Sanders people defend him for it, but then hide it so people can't see it.

Funny, right?

I think so.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
26. Is it always a simple "tit for tat" with you? "You said this, so I'll say THIS?"
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:29 PM
May 2016

"I'm only being an ass now because you were an ass then?"

Endearing quality.

BootinUp

(51,635 posts)
25. Has he conceded yet so we can move on? He's had a week to end the attacks on Hillary
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:25 PM
May 2016

and has done nothing to stop them.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
31. If she's indicted, then he could be the nominee!
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:09 PM
May 2016

That's why it's important to follow the important person. After all, if he wasn't important, he wouldn't be important.

ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
15. Oh trust me it's all over Facebook, Twitter and other social media
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:08 PM
May 2016

All over the Internet. There are many pro-Hillary groups and ay least one dedicated to vetting Sanders. DU is what it is. Kos is what it is, but I was surprised and gratified to find out how many people are sick of this shit. Did anyone really think Hilary supporters wouldn't fight back?

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
17. BSers should enjoy the jury abuse while they can. It's not going to last forever. nt
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:09 PM
May 2016
 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
19. You never ever tout your candidate
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:10 PM
May 2016

Ever

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
20. With the Clinton bashin', lyin'... ? I do not start threads for serious conversation. I often call
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:12 PM
May 2016

out the lies put up. When I want a serious conversation about Clinton, I go elsewhere.

ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
21. Right?
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:14 PM
May 2016

Like having a "discussion" is even possible in GD-P

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
22. Vetting Bernie not allowed. per sec 1 art ll of DU progressive bible.
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016
 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
23. If there was adult literary analysis happening, maybe
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:20 PM
May 2016

But as the "rape fantasies!" responses showed, some people have a hard time reviewing the written word for context, analysis, and thematic purpose.

Gleaning a piece for gotcha quotes out of a whole is not "talking about what he wrote." At least not in an intelligent, useful manner.

From the quality of reading comprehension, I suspect GDP might be better geared towards, perhaps, Judy Blume novels.

Although, many of those are actually decent works with cogent commentary on adolescence.

So maybe that's also above GDP's capabilities.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
27. I have seen it numerous times.
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:29 PM
May 2016

Long threads, lots of detail, etc.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
28. I have read repeatedly that Sanders streangth is that he has always believed as he does now.
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:31 PM
May 2016

So when I find something that is offensive from his past, it must still hold that to be true. After all, his strength is that he has always believed as he does now.

And as to creative writing, these were his opinions he wrote about, not Science Fiction, Fantasy, or action thrillers.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
30. Feel free to talk about it...
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:34 PM
May 2016

...as long as you're actually going to talk about it. If you're going to pick out 4 words and say he's just writing about raping women then expect a hide. That isn't what was going on in that article.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
32. this is what the DNC wants out in front -someone who would sexualuze a child to save her rapist
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:16 PM
May 2016

by claiming about the little girl -"she had exhibited "a tendency to seek out older men and engage in... fantasizing." She added, citing a child psychology expert that "children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experiences and that adolescents with disorganized families, such as the complainant, are even more prone to such behavior."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-stands-by-her-defense-of-1975-rape-suspect/
.

Omaha Steve

(109,956 posts)
33. Locking after a review by forum hosts
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:31 PM
May 2016

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