Electronic Machines w/ No Paper Trail

[amborin]

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[yourpaljoey]

1. should be tossed into a car crusher

[bkkyosemite]

2. Just another state and another cheating vote machine.

[Kip Humphrey]

3. I said it in 2002. I said it in 2004. I said it in 2006. I said it in 2008. I said it in 2010.

I said it in 2012. I said it in 2014. And I say it again in 2016:

We cannot regain our democracy without first reclaiming the integrity of our voting systems.

[stillwaiting]

4. Thank You. It's silly to pretend otherwise. nt

[CrispyQ]

5. And the democratic party's response to more & more counties/states going electronic?

Amy Goodman interviews Harvey Wasserman.

Could the 2016 Election Be Stolen with Help from Electronic Voting Machines?

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/2/23/could_the_2016_election_be_stolen

HARVEY WASSERMAN: ...this year, about 80 percent of the vote nationally will be cast on electronic voting machines. There is no verifiability. In six key swing states—Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Michigan, Iowa and Arizona—you have Republican governors and Republican secretaries of state, and no method of verifying the electronic vote count.

HARVEY WASSERMAN: Well, that’s the key. The electronic voting machines are owned by private corporations, which are Republican in orientation, generally. And the courts have ruled that the source code on these electronic voting machines is proprietary. So, even the governments that buy or lease these machines have no access to a final verification process. Even Ronald Reagan said, "Trust, but verify." And we know that the vote count was flipped in 2004. We know it was flipped in Volusia County in 2000.

Some of his claims are pretty out there, but the real problem is lack of verification of the vote.

[Wilms]

6. Wasserman does a really good job of muddying the waters.

It's easy to do given how complicated the issue is. But he knows better.

Actually, it's more than 80% votes cast on electronic voting machines. But the majority of them are OpScan, so there IS a way to verify. True that most jurisdiction do not audit those ballots in a statistically significant way.

The dreaded DRE is used for @40%. Some have audit trails, again unlikely to be audited well. The remaining have no way to be audited.

http://votingmachines.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000274

Again, it's complicated. And again, Harvey knows better. But continues to blather and muddy as he has since at least 2004. He's tiresome and not helpful.

[felix_numinous]

7. Elections are for nothing

if they can be hacked. Nothing, sorry. We're just going through the motions if great numbers of votes are not counted or switched.