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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:54 AM May 2016

Republicans have a massive electoral map problem that has nothing to do with Donald Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/02/republicans-have-a-massive-electoral-map-problem-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-donald-trump/

Politico reported today on a Florida poll conducted for a business group in the state that shows Hillary Clinton beating Donald Trump by 13 points and Ted Cruz by nine.

Why is that important? Because if Clinton wins Florida and carries the 19 states (plus D.C.) that have voted for the Democratic presidential nominee in each of the last six elections, she will be the 45th president. It's that simple.

Here's what that map would look like:



And here's the underlying math. If Clinton wins the 19 states (and D.C.) that every Democratic nominee has won from 1992 to 2012, she has 242 electoral votes. Add Florida's 29 and you get 271. Game over.



Sid

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Republicans have a massive electoral map problem that has nothing to do with Donald Trump (Original Post) SidDithers May 2016 OP
Sorry, off-topic: what's up with New Hampshire? auntpurl May 2016 #1
NH isn't one of the 19 (plus DC) that the Dem candidate has won each of the last 6 elections. Garrett78 May 2016 #2
New Hampshire is where all right-wing nuts get exiled if they insist on being up here ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #4
As I wrote yesterday, some overthink the path to 270. Garrett78 May 2016 #3
Clinton will win NH, VA, OH, IA, NM and likely NV and CO ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #5
Except that Hillary is disliked and distrusted by independents and millennial Democrats at a rate Attorney in Texas May 2016 #6

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
1. Sorry, off-topic: what's up with New Hampshire?
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:04 PM
May 2016

I must not have been paying attention, but I didn't realise it was a red state. How did that happen, surrounded by its liberal New England brethren?

Back on topic: this is great news!

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
2. NH isn't one of the 19 (plus DC) that the Dem candidate has won each of the last 6 elections.
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:39 PM
May 2016

Bush won NH in 2000.

NH, NM, NV, OH and other states that are red on that map will likely be 'blue' in 2016.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
3. As I wrote yesterday, some overthink the path to 270.
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:42 PM
May 2016

There are very few swing states, though there may be more this year if Trump is the Republican Party nominee. The electoral college map is very favorable for Democrats.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
5. Clinton will win NH, VA, OH, IA, NM and likely NV and CO
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:46 PM
May 2016

Heck, she will probably win NC, KY and maybe finally GA.

But it's good to know this is worst case scenario.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
6. Except that Hillary is disliked and distrusted by independents and millennial Democrats at a rate
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:53 PM
May 2016

no Democrat from 1992 to 2012 has ever been disliked.

If the Republicans nominated Kasich, Rubio, Walker, Ryan, etc., any of them would likely beat Hillary because she is so disliked and distrusted.

Thank the spaghetti monster that they will nominate Trump or Cruz, the two worst potential nominees in a generation. That gives Democrats a chance even if we fuck up and nominate the least well liked and least trusted Democratic candidate in the history of polling.

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