Bernie should negotiate to abolish the superdelegate system in return for dropping out.

[DCBob]

I think given the circumstances that might be possibility. No one really likes it and it wouldn't take effect until the next election.

Getting rid of the influence of the superdelegates would be a fitting legacy to what Bernie has accomplished. It could pave the way for a new insurgent candidate in the next election. That would have made it all worthwhile... imo.

[elehhhhna]

1. fuck that. hil should.she's the risky candidate.

[grossproffit]

21. Pssst. He's the losing candidate.

[northernsouthern]

29. Pssst. because she stole the election.

That is the point of this post.

[oberliner]

31. She stole the election?

How?

[grossproffit]

32. By getting more votes. How dare she! It's BERNIE'S TURN!

[northernsouthern]

41. That and more corruption and bribes...

..."Hillary Victory Fund".

[northernsouthern]

40. So let's do a hypothetical here.

Let's say you had a massive media black-out, one person that laundered the "Hillary Victory Fund" from all of the state's DNC funds for just her campaign, you had over 400 "Super"delegates on your side so you started out with 400 extra delegates...which is shown on every network as actual current votes...then you produce lies on a grandiose scale spread through your media about your opponent not being American or he is a Muslim...oh wait that was last election, this one it is her opponent is racist and sexist...that would be theft.

[MoonRiver]

2. He is rapidly losing all his bargaining chips.

I really think he's willing to bet it all on a long shot win, no matter how many DNCers he alienates.

[DCBob]

3. Yes, I agree.

His leverage is fairly strong now and more much than if he waits until after June 7 when he is likely to get plastered in CA, NJ and NM.

[Armstead]

23. How many bargaining chips does O'Malley have these days?

[Human101948]

25. And the DNC would tell him to go to hell...

They are offering nothing to him and they won't.

[morningfog]

4. I would totally support that.

[DCBob]

6. I dont know what it would take to get it done but I think it's a possibility.

The DNC might balk but they have to see the benefits of bringing new blood into the party and getting rid of the superdelegates would certainly be a start in that direction.

[woolldog]

7. Am I the only one who likes the superdelegate system?

The GOP wishes they had superdelegates right about now. It would have prevented someone like Trump from getting the nomination. It's a good check to have.

[DCBob]

10. True.. that was its purpose but I think we can survive without it now.

Its time has come and gone... imo.

[morningfog]

16. WHo cares what the repubs want?

The people should be empowered and trusted to nominate the candidate who they find most deserving. If the party feels threatened by that, the party needs to change.

[CorkySt.Clair]

34. We don't have the "loon" problem the GOP has

I get your point but it makes me wonder when it would come up that the SD's would be needed to stop a Dem version of Trump simply because that version does not exist.

[woolldog]

42. Bernie Sanders is a demagogue

not as noxious as Trump but a demagogue all the same. I sleep a little safer at night knowing that 450 superdelegates stand between him and the Presidency.

[BootinUp]

5. Sure that might work, but Bernie has given no sign that

he is interested in making a deal.

[DCBob]

8. He might change his tune after today and he sees his numbers tanking in CA.

[grossproffit]

33. I sincerely doubt it. He's still openly going after her.

[morningfog]

9. I disagree. He withdrew the complaint against the DNC.

He has said he will remain a Dem and that he will support the Democratic Nominee. I am certain that more has been discussed behind closed doors.

[jehop61]

11. Why should

anyone who's never been a member of the Party be the one to set it's rules?

[DCBob]

14. I think many are already leaning that way in the party.

It could be a real unifier.

[scscholar]

30. But he parachuted in...

to get our money. He's one of us. /s

[LexVegas]

12. He has no leverage. nt

[DCBob]

13. I think the Clinton team would love to have Bernie drop out as soon as possible.

They do not want to fight him all the way to Philly. I am sure of that.

[sufrommich]

15. At the rate his campaign is going,his ability to leverage

anything with democrats is questionable.

[DCBob]

18. Yeah, I hear you but I think he still has an opportunity to negotiate something..

but he needs to do it soon.

[CrowCityDem]

17. Meh. They aren't really a problem. Caucuses need to go first.

[DCBob]

19. Agreed on the caucuses.. they suck.

[randome]

22. Agreed.

The superdelegates rarely have anything to do with the outcome. Their votes are 99.9% of the time a mere formality, as will be the case this year.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.[/center][/font][hr]

[northernsouthern]

28. AGAIN THEY ARE ALL CAUCUSES

EVERY ELECTION IS A CAUCUS. SOME START AS PRIMARIES, BUT YOU VOTE ON THE DELEGATES.

[Beacool]

36. I agree.

I have been saying it for years. In this day and age, caucuses should not exist. They disenfranchise far too many people and are not democratic. They should have been eliminated years ago.

[timlot]

20. 3,154,991

Lets make it the popular vote then. Seems the most democratic way to go.

[PyaarRevolution]

24. Not enough.

I would rather Hillary adopt tuition free college and Medicare for all and a few others. Notably I think Hillary should be held to the fire and FORCED to sign a pledge to support Net Neutrality or agree to give up all the money she currently has.

[Agnosticsherbet]

26. Sanders has committed to contesting the Convention until the first ballot, which he will loose.

In a two person race, there can not be a contested convention. 2383 are needed, which is an odd number. At this point in the primary, it would require some form of miracle for him to catch up.

That said, I won't be surprised if he comes forward after the last primary and supports her. That would be followed with him writing a number of planks in the Democratic Platform. I doubt that he wants a cabinet post, but putting parts of his agenda up front during the General Election and as part of Clinton's agenda in the first four years would be a win for him as it would influence the direction of the Democratic Party for a long time.

There are a lot of issues that Sanders and Clinton agree on, though most of the arguments here tend to ignore that.

[northernsouthern]

27. That is one good option.

But is still would leave so much anger, since they basically stole the election with more votes than Cali right out o the gate.

[DrDan]

35. it's really quite silly to whine about the SD's when it is clear they will not change the course

of the voting

[NurseJackie]

37. He's holding an offsuit 2 and 7 ...

... this is a hand he's going to lose. His "all-in" bluff isn't going to work

[workinclasszero]

38. That might work if the Sanders campaign was running on principles

But its devolved into a personality cult now so Bernie and fans will still be "fighting for the nomination" on Hillary's first day in the oval office no doubt.

[Vinca]

43. Once again, I have just talked myself into the hard reality of voting for Hillary in the general

and, as a Sanders supporter, now find I'm being insulted and being called part of a cult. I swear. It's posts like yours that make me root for an indictment.

[workinclasszero]

44. Oh waaah

According to Sanders fans I am a war monger, a tool of the rich, an employee of David Brock, unthoughtful, ignorant, Stockholm syndrome victim, right wing conservadem...blah blah blah.

You vote for whoever you want to, or sit home and feel all superior. I could care less.

If you want your loved ones to live under Trump's quasi religious police state I can't stop you.

[Turin_C3PO]

39. That's a great idea actually. (nt)