Another problem for Hillary in a potential Hillary vs. Donald election

[pdsimdars]

Thom Hartmann has been talking about this for a few days now. These trade deals have decimated the manufacturing and the middle class. When the "free trade" first came out about 20% of the people voted for Ross Perot who popularized his phrase of a "vast sucking sound" of jobs leaving the country. . . He called it and people voted for him.

Today it is 80+% of the public who knows they have been bad for the US. Donald is AGAINST them. If he makes his campaign on that, he will be to the LEFT of Clinton and on the side of the public sentiment.

That could be a big problem.

[Vinca]

1. It's also a problem for the Donald because his ties and other crap are made in China.

His daughter's clothing line (made in China) just had a recall because the fabric was flammable. When it comes to Clinton vs. Trump on trade, they about even out since she's been promoting the trade deals he's been taking advantage of.

[Katashi_itto]

2. Of which he can say, because of Clinton's shitty trade deals. I had no choice but to manufacture

overseas. It's not a level playing field. I had to do this or go out of business.

[pdsimdars]

5. I agree, he has consistently been against them and she has been for them

He knows how the system works and is against it. She knows how it works and is for it.
The public is against it.

[JaneyVee]

3. And I just saw on VICE that Trump uses migrant slave labor to build his hotels.

[Baobab]

10. There is already some of that L-1 visa labor going on in the US.

Its in TiSA, TTIP and likely TPP and its also in the 1995 GATS we all should know.

[JaneyVee]

4. Actually, a majority of both party's favor trade deals...

[truedelphi]

28. Which is why a clear majority of America's registered voters are totally

fed up with both parties. And are not willing to vote for anyone who has crapped on the middle class.

[BootinUp]

6. She will be pushing for tougher enforcment of trade agreements already in effect

and talking about how to protect workers from these. She will kick The Donalds's butt on this issue.

[Katashi_itto]

7. Yeah and all he has to do is bring up NAFTA GATT, and the fact she is one of the architects of TPP

Yep, her stance will be convincing.

[BootinUp]

9. Where do you get this she is one the architects bullshit? Not from a reputable source. nt

[Katashi_itto]

13. Of course nothing I come up with is reputable. But here is one source.

But at a congressional hearing in 2011, Clinton told lawmakers that "with respect to the TPP, although the State Department does not have the lead on this -- it is the United States Trade Representative -- we work closely with the USTR." Additionally, State Department cables reviewed by International Business Times show that her agency -- including her top aides -- were deeply involved in the diplomatic deliberations over the trade deal. The cables from 2009 and 2010, which were among a trove of documents disclosed by the website WikiLeaks, also show that the Clinton-run State Department advised the U.S. Trade Representative’s office on how to negotiate the deal with foreign government officials.

In recent months, labor, environmental, public health and consumer advocacy groups have campaigned against the TPP, saying the pact is a stealth attempt by corporations to tilt the rules of international commerce in their favor. They have specifically criticized provisions in the deal -- which are secret but have periodically leaked -- that they say would empower corporations to use international tribunals to attempt to overturn public interest laws. The groups represent many core Democratic Party constituencies that Clinton has been courting in her White House bid, which explains why in the lead-up to the party's primary she has suddenly depicted herself as a critic of the deal. But the cables show that the Clinton-run State Department was indeed a major player in pushing the initiative.


http://www.ibtimes.com/cables-show-hillary-clintons-state-department-deeply-involved-trans-pacific-2032948

[BootinUp]

15. But even if that is reported accurately, it does not make her an architect of the agreement

All it says is the State Department advised USTR on matters of diplomacy. Calling her an architect suggests that she was responsible for designing it and that is nonsense.

[Katashi_itto]

18. Whatever dude. I can come up with more stuff that shows it.

But it would never satisfy you.

[Katashi_itto]

19. Hillary Clinton, TPP architect as Sec State (cornerstone of her Pivot to Asia & "Economic Statecraft

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/651874603569164288

Ian Bremmer is another

Hillary Clinton, TPP architect as Sec State (cornerstone of her Pivot to Asia & "Economic Statecraft&quot , today opposes TPP trade deal.




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[BootinUp]

22. I get that some people have decided to tag her with that label, but it is quite inaccurate.

Again, the State Department supported the USTR on diplomatic issues.

[bettyellen]

23. Well if someone tweeted it- it must be true!

[Katashi_itto]

24. Gosh hope you didnt strain brain cells to much for that comment

[bettyellen]

25. Twits don't strain anything but credulity, ha ha.

[Katashi_itto]

32. Agree, you would certainly be the expert.

[bettyellen]

33. Lotsa twits tweets here to laugh at- yep!

[Katashi_itto]

34. Well said, well spoken! Truly twitness is your forte!

[scscholar]

31. Plus, TPP was classified, and there's no evidence she received classified docs via email...

so there' evidence she didn't see the agreement.

[bahrbearian]

14. Really, were do they come up with that stuff? She's been fighting NAFTA since its inception.

She's been a fighter of the middle class since she was on the WalMart Board.

[Ferd Berfel]

16. This.............

Cables Show Hillary Clinton's State Department Deeply Involved in Trans-Pacific Partnership

http://www.ibtimes.com/cables-show-hillary-clintons-state-department-deeply-involved-trans-pacific-2032948

SHe has triangulated to basically say that it needs to be tweaked (after she helped write it)

Only 5 chapters are about trade, the other 20+ are about installing corporate sovereignty over ELECTED Government sovereignty

It's an abortion of Democracy. It needs to die.

[BootinUp]

17. You folks need to read your own source material again. No where does it indicate she

was an architect of the TPP.

[virtualobserver]

30. no one will believe her....

[MisterP]

8. they created his constituency--their jobs went to China and then their houses did,

and then they saw Democrats laughing and laughing at those straight white male losers who worked all their lives and then lost it all

now the Angry White Male lives and breathes on ungrounded rage, and the more He earns the more He fears he'll lose it--Trump's followers are mostly the gentry benefiting from the fire-sale of America and are driven by not wanting "those people" to get any money, sure

but his message wouldn't go beyond these people, wouldn't set up this dangerous contrast with Clinton that could sink her: Trump's a bigmouth and is basically America's Palpatine, but he's pure right-populist instinct and that means pointing out the distractions that the "globalists" have used to snooker voters of both parties while they pop the champagne once the doors are shut

[bahrbearian]

11. Don't worry "Me Too! will evolve

[Sheepshank]

12. And showing the reality of all of Donald's failed business deals

bankruptcies, underhanded maneuverings, massive job losses, demolishing the little guy to build his empire. His public embarassment of his ties made in China were a big wake up call to his hypocrisy.

He is only appears successful and have super human business savvy because he has the financial clout to start 20 business and hope one flies.

[firebrand80]

20. The guy that makes his clothes overseas

Isn't exactly the ideal messenger

[YouDig]

21. 80+%? Is that a poll number, or just a guess?

[ViseGrip]

26. BOOM! Hammer....meet nail.

Years and years of this shit!

Enough is enough is enough!

[onenote]

27. Link for the 80 percent claim?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

29. NO, he is not against them, that is a lie he is telling the idiots.

Some will believe his lie but most can be shown that he is lying, is easy to prove.