Bernie is going to win Indiana.

[One of the 99]

It's an open primary so independents can vote. Good thing he didn't drop out.

[JaneyVee]

1. Then what?

Hillary can lose every state by less than 20% and still win.

[One of the 99]

3. You don't get it.

The point is that Bernie is bringing up important issues that would otherwise be ignored.

[brooklynite]

24. Sanders has been bringing these issues up for a year...how does a win tonight change that equation?

[Corporate666]

25. How does losing the nomination bring up important issues?

He's not trying to bring up important issues. He's trying to win the nomination.

The "bringing up important issues" is just a narrative put forth by people who are trying to give themselves a reason not to accept that he's lost the nomination and is no longer a factor in the election.

Some of you folks think that he's going to get up at the convention and give an impassioned speech that will bring people to tears and cause his platform to be adopted by the winners. That's not going to happen. It has no way to happen - that's not what the convention is about. He's going to get up and give a speech where he supports Clinton. He might mention a couple of line items from his agenda, but he has zero power to set the platform or even sway it. Clinton doesn't need his delegates nor does she need to pander to his supporters. She's already beating Trump handily and she should keep doing what she's doing because it is working.

[uponit7771]

35. Like "we'll see" on helping down ballot dems? Those "issues" or is it just be angry and don't get

... shit done?

tia

[pnwmom]

37. He's already brought them up. Now he's just wasting a lot of money that could

be going to some better use -- like helping to pay off his donors' student loans, or going to defeat Trump in the General .

[bobthedrummer]

15. Wisconsin has 72 counties-Bernie Sanders won 71 of them and your arrogance will take you down. n/t

[dsc]

21. McCain won more counties than Obama

he didn't win either.

[Joe the Revelator]

17. Then you still have to ask yourself why Hillary can't close the deal

[NuclearDem]

18. She closed it on March 15th.

Sanders has just been delaying the inevitable ever since.

[Sheepshank]

22. see post 21....your narrative is false and promotes a false impression

I wish Bernie Bros would stop the lying and false equivalencies....it makes them and Bernie look bad.

[Joe the Revelator]

39. States do not equal counties.

Look at the 04 Primary map if you want to see someone close out competition.

[Cal33]

40. Just read the post below, and be sure to click the link in the 2nd paragraph "Exit Poll

Discrepancies." You may be getting the shock of your life!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511819256

[Ferd Berfel]

2. This is the delusion in teh Hillarians arguments that she can win teh GE

She can't - not with out the Indies. She only wins CLOSED PRimaries. THeir problem is that the Indies get to vote in the GE.

And they will not vote for her. Even over Trump.

[dubyadiprecession]

4. Yeah! we get to have independents pick our democratic...

nominee!

[Ferd Berfel]

9. Again - They get to vote in the GE

[Shadowflash]

29. And why

If you were not interested in our votes now, would you expect we'd be interested in your candidate then?

[IdaBriggs]

19. Another way to look at is...

we get to grow our party by showing independents that really, they WANT to be Democrats.

I was a Firm Independent who voted for the Democratic presidential candidate consistently until Obama made me realize I was actually a Proud Democrat. (And I was an Independent who volunteered for Kerry - lol!) I consider myself an "Obama Democrat" because he brought me into the fold by making sure I wasn't going to be humiliated by bad decision making (like Bill Clinton, who I defended regularly in the 90s). With Obama, I get to discuss policy instead of personality flaws.

I know he isn't perfect, but I am proud of him as both an American and a Democrat.

I feel the same way about Bernie. I could also have been good with Biden, Warren or O'Malley, but if Hillary gets the nod, I am switching back to Independent so fast, it will make your head spin -- I do not want to be affiliated with her brand of corruption and incompetence.

That's my take anyway.

[Firebrand Gary]

5. I remember hearing the same thing about President Obama.

[tonyt53]

7. Bernie's supporters will have lost inteest by the fall

Besides, people over 50 are the most reliable voters and before today, over 3 million more of them have voted for Hillary.

[dinkytron]

32. WE WILL NEVER LOSE INTEEST.

What ae you talking about?

[tonyt53]

8. Got news for ya Bubba - those caucuses were poorly, poorly attended

So to crow about them is nonsense.

[Ferd Berfel]

12. not crowing about anything just point out

that the Indie vote will COUNT in the GE - and they aren't voting for her.

[Punkingal]

23. Not all of them...my caucus in MN was much larger than 2008 and went for Bernie.

[Hav]

11. Clinton only wins closed primaries?

How can one seriously say that when everyone can look up such a claim and see that it is just not true?

[Garrett78]

20. There have been many false memes, such as the Clinton-Red State meme.

Throughout the campaign, I've read post after post that takes reality and flips it on its head.

I certainly get why folks are frustrated with the Democratic Party, but it bothers me that so many have lost touch with reality.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

13. She won 11 of the 18 open primaries this year.

Your information is incorrect.

[ContinentalOp]

16. Wrong. She won the majority of open primaries.

She won 11 of the 14 open primaries that have been held already, and he only won 3.

[Corporate666]

26. Except she already beats Trump head to head in the general...

The Sanderites think that their fringe group covers all independents.

It doesn't.

Here's a news flash... the people who are going to vote Clinton are going to do so anyway. The ones who aren't won't suddenly vote for her if she takes on one or two issues from Bernie's campaign. And she's not going to do that anyway - she has her own platform that has her winning the GE against Trump.

The BS'ers think their voting block will stay home on election day if BS isn't the nominee or HRC Doesn't take on BS's positions. That's not going to happen. Time to get with reality and accept that Bernie lost and most people in the country don't want him as President and don't want his platform adopted as that of the democratic party.

[oberliner]

30. AL, AR, GA, IL, MS, MO, SC, TN, VA, TX all had open primaries

Hillary won all of them.

[brooklynite]

6. Independents can also vote for Donald Trump...

[Dr Hobbitstein]

10. She's won more open primaries than Bernie.

As of April 27, 2016, Hillary Clinton had outperformed Bernie Sanders in open Democratic primaries and caucuses, winning 11 of 18.

https://ballotpedia.org/Open_primary

[Sheepshank]

27. He sure spent a mega amount of money to do so...was it worth the possible extra delegate or two?

We shall see if indeed he does win, and if so what kind of a dent he make in Hillary's 300 PD lead.

[Demsrule86]

31. He might...might not....doesn't really matter to HRC

Ohio was an open primary as well. Bernie lost Ohio.

[brooklynite]

33. 55/45 Clinton @4%: Would you care to revise and extend your remarks?

[calguy]

34. YES!!!!

and I'm gonna win the lottery ext week!!!!
My chances are at LEAST as good as Bernie's

[pnwmom]

36. "Good thing he didn't drop out." Why? His winning there won't change anything.

He could win by 15 points and all that would mean is that Hillary would need to get 35% of the remaining pledged delegates instead of 34%.

[onenote]

38. He may. But open primaries are not guaranteed Sanders' wins.

He's lost 10 out of 13 open primaries.

[One of the 99]

41. I told you so!