2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFor once Chuck Todd makes sense..."The two most unpopular public figures in America"
Ol' Chuck seemed genuinely upset and indignant tonight for some reason. He said, with uncharacteristic emotion: (Very sightly paraphrased)
"We are looking at the likelihood of a contest between two of the most unpopular figures in America running for president. Trump is going to make it very ugly, and Clinton is likely to follow suit. It's going to be very unpleasant. And we're going to have six months of this?!? It's uncharted territory, and it's just going to fuel the anger of the American people."
Don't know what someone put into his dinner...but for once he was making sense.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and the rest of us get to live with it
Chucky will be fine... the rest of us... maybe not
villager
(26,001 posts)"Interesting times," indeed.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)or cuddly...
villager
(26,001 posts)Well, except there's the self-annihilating feeding frenzy first....
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)...were not, and never will be, of my choosing.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Or, I should say, to defeat the Democrats. It's not clear what side you want to win, but Todd's conservative bias is very well known.
In this case, Todd is putting down the Democratic Party's nominee by deliberately unfavorably equating her with an amoral, highly dysfunctional buffoon. Or, as you see it, "making sense."
jillan
(39,451 posts)Stallion
(6,474 posts)nm
IdaBriggs
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Be afraid. Be very afraid.
ON EDIT: Bad link originally with weird numbers - apologies!
Now using google at 95% reporting -
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Victory speech tonight wasn't typical Trump. He is charismatic and he is focusing on America while Clinton seems better at foreign intrigue. People will grow tired of Clinton I fear. Bernie is a much better match but Trump will be hard to beat by anybody.
bjo59
(1,166 posts)Trust Buster
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bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Why is that?
Loudestlib
(980 posts)#mathfacts
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... to Trump but the power of the indie vote isn't there either
jillan
(39,451 posts)bjo59
(1,166 posts)independents begins to shoots skyward.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)runaway hero
(835 posts)So people are too scared to stand for anything any more. Smh.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)I first read the title of the Op as two most popular and immediately thought of Bernie and Hillary, our two great candidates, and thought, "He said that!"
So, I don't know what the guy ate either, but is seems he's up to the same old yak, yak, yak for money.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)...
...
Sooner or later she's probably going to need to actually, you know, run on actual issues.
cali
(114,904 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)....that the trick for Hillary will be not to follow Trump's style and be loud and insulting.
Sigh.
There's a way to avoid that.
Step aside, Hillary, and let a candidate with 86 percent trustworthy ratings get the job done.
appalachiablue
(41,127 posts)now remarked that many upcoming states are working class, white voters---gasp!!
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)It would be helpful if there were more journalism and less punditry
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)the one they make the most money from
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)anti-trade agreements talk and pointed out
that B. Clinton was the first one to sign these
kind of agreements: Loud, very loud applause.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I think the word he used was "dark."
madamesilverspurs
(15,800 posts)He's been swilling rightwing spewage for so long that it's become part of what remains of his brain.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Nyan
(1,192 posts)while the rest of us are forced to watch their contrived little game.
So who cares if it's Trump or Clinton? You'd be voting for Wall Street and wars any way.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)BootinUp
(47,141 posts)Hillary has high unfavorables, can you say "vast right wing conspiracy" Chuck?
panader0
(25,816 posts)She voted for Obama twice. She voted, as did I, for Bernie in our Az primary.
But she will not vote for Hillary. I asked her--"What about a Trump presidency? What about the
Supreme Court?" She said "I can't vote for Hillary." I've learned over the years that arguing with
her is futile.
It is amazing that the two most unpopular public figures in America are what we will probably have
as candidates. In my 65 years I have never seen a cycle like this.
Then again, Bernie may be able to pull this out.
The curtain has been pulled back--anyone who is remotely aware sees the insane machinations
of the political system.