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northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:12 AM May 2016

Indiana had low turn out for Dems, but not for Reps!.

Bernie always wins with higher turn out, but this one was record low. We did ABOUT 50% OF 2008 and the republicans did over 200% of 2008???

2008
McCain, John Sidney, III 320,308 77.62%
Huckabee, Michael Dale "Mike" 41,173 9.98%
Paul, Ronald Ernest "Ron" 31,611 7.66%
Romney, Mitt 19,581 4.74%

412,673


2016
Trump 583,462 53.2
Cruz 401,959 36.7
985,421

238.78%

vs


2008
Clinton, Hillary Rodham 646,253 50.56%
Obama, Barack Hussein 632,061 49.44%
1,278,314

2016
Sanders 332,516 52.5
Clinton 300,851 47.5
633,367


49.54%

BTW Dems got

64.27% of the votes the Republicans got.

That is wild.

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Indiana had low turn out for Dems, but not for Reps!. (Original Post) northernsouthern May 2016 OP
People were really tired of Bush. Ash_F May 2016 #1
True about Bush. northernsouthern May 2016 #2
Declarations of "it's over" depressed Dem turnout today. pat_k May 2016 #3
I had posted earlier it could be the race is over mentality. northernsouthern May 2016 #6
It's a wave election like 2008 bigwillq May 2016 #4
Well not fully on Demographics... northernsouthern May 2016 #7
Don't tell this to people who think Hillary is going to rout Trump kcjohn1 May 2016 #5
40% of Repubs say they will NOT vote for Trump. Only 20% of Dems say that about Clinton.... bettyellen May 2016 #9
Isn't it a reliably red state? bettyellen May 2016 #8
It is the fact that turn out was record low... northernsouthern May 2016 #10
Sounds like that red state is getting redder. bettyellen May 2016 #11
It could be, many studies showed this... northernsouthern May 2016 #12
 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
2. True about Bush.
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:15 AM
May 2016

But this is like they swapped votes between parties...this could spell a republican win (I know they say primary turnout means nothing...but does it really not?).

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
3. Declarations of "it's over" depressed Dem turnout today.
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:16 AM
May 2016

And the Republican race was essentially over in 2008 -- so their turnout was depressed even more.

Indiana is a "Red State" (not deep red, but red nonetheless). The extremely low turnout in 2008 reflects the state of the Republican race at that time.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
6. I had posted earlier it could be the race is over mentality.
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:21 AM
May 2016

Bernie supporters have been way more enthusiastic, so it would make sense they would still be fighting despite the media (oh and they also trust the media less so they are more likely to ignore them). But still that turn out is crazy low. In 2008 the vote total in the general was 2,751,054, and 1,345,648 of those were for the Republican...that means they almost matched their general election turn out from last time. Just a bit sobering.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
4. It's a wave election like 2008
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:18 AM
May 2016

But for the other side. A lot of anti-DEM sentiment in this country. Hillary should win the GE based on demographics (women, blacks, latinos), but will she get the turnout?

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
7. Well not fully on Demographics...
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:25 AM
May 2016

Youth vote of under 45 or such does not appear as likely to support her, and that is a big vote that they always say the Dems need...that and the independents. But yeah, I think them Dems have been ignoring the wave...


kcjohn1

(751 posts)
5. Don't tell this to people who think Hillary is going to rout Trump
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:20 AM
May 2016

Turnout is always the name of the game. No matter who is on the ballot for GOP, this cycle is theirs. Just like 08 were Dems had the enthusiasm (beyond Obama, voting against Bush), GOP has it this time.

What you have seen in the primaries is base vs base. Right now GOP is winning 60/40, and they have the early advantage. That is why the challenge for the dem candidate is to get more people out, because if turnout is low (close to 50% than to 60%), the GOP will win.

I don't see how Clinton brings out the under 45 voters. This is going to be confusing for those voters because as much as they hate Trump, they hate Clinton just slightly less. Obama it was easy because they actually liked him. More difficult to come out and vote against someone, than to vote for someone.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
9. 40% of Repubs say they will NOT vote for Trump. Only 20% of Dems say that about Clinton....
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:49 AM
May 2016

And I think they are all here in GDP. HA.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
10. It is the fact that turn out was record low...
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:41 AM
May 2016

...like half of last time, and the republican one was double...just was a bit odd.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
12. It could be, many studies showed this...
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:34 PM
May 2016

...was occurring in the south. Areas had a positive growth rate for republican house holds, while not in democratic.

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