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Wed May 4, 2016, 12:23 AM

Just an observation before going to bed ...

the Hillsies are out in force tonight here at DU.

Indiana has obviously amped their posting proclivity. Wondering why (denial?, outrage at insurrection? insecurity? their earth moved? ...), but too tired to offer any cogent theories at the moment.

Anyone care to help?

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Reply Just an observation before going to bed ... (Original post)
KPN May 2016 OP
villager May 2016 #1
Jack Bone May 2016 #2
silvershadow May 2016 #4
betsuni May 2016 #22
Betty Karlson May 2016 #16
lagomorph777 May 2016 #52
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #3
VulgarPoet May 2016 #20
NanceGreggs May 2016 #5
JimDandy May 2016 #10
NanceGreggs May 2016 #13
JimDandy May 2016 #14
LanternWaste May 2016 #32
JimDandy May 2016 #43
vdogg May 2016 #17
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #6
highprincipleswork May 2016 #11
KPN May 2016 #24
alittlelark May 2016 #7
stonecutter357 May 2016 #30
Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #8
VulgarPoet May 2016 #21
KPN May 2016 #25
LibDemAlways May 2016 #9
anotherproletariat May 2016 #12
KPN May 2016 #27
Betty Karlson May 2016 #15
corkhead May 2016 #18
Demsrule86 May 2016 #19
KPN May 2016 #29
Darb May 2016 #23
KPN May 2016 #31
Darb May 2016 #39
KPN May 2016 #40
Darb May 2016 #41
Dem2 May 2016 #26
polly7 May 2016 #28
KPN May 2016 #33
polly7 May 2016 #34
KPN May 2016 #35
KPN May 2016 #38
polly7 May 2016 #36
Darb May 2016 #42
Capt. Obvious May 2016 #37
JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #45
Capt. Obvious May 2016 #47
morningfog May 2016 #44
asuhornets May 2016 #46
KPN May 2016 #48
asuhornets May 2016 #49
KPN May 2016 #50
onecaliberal May 2016 #51
silvershadow May 2016 #53
grasswire May 2016 #54

Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 12:26 AM

1. The usual petulant outrage at "insurrection," indeed.

 

The narrative can't be questioned, etc.

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 12:28 AM

2. I think they're scared....

They can see it slipping away...

Here's some Stones to get ya sleepy

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Response to Jack Bone (Reply #2)

Wed May 4, 2016, 12:39 AM

4. Here's another, oldie but goodie:

 

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Response to silvershadow (Reply #4)

Wed May 4, 2016, 07:42 AM

22. Hey, are you still watching the HRC group?

"I'm watching the HRC group! Berners, log in please! We need as many logged in as possible at all time to help weigh the juries!"

Way to go!

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Response to Jack Bone (Reply #2)

Wed May 4, 2016, 02:31 AM

16. Certainy: Clinton's pathway to victory has dramatically narrowed,

 

and her road of inevitability is closed by now. Besides: polls have shown her dismal chances in the GE (she alone seems to be losing to ALL GOP candidates, even to Trumpm in hypothetic match-ups) and so she must be worried about that small trickle of superdelegates that publicly demonstrate willingness to support Bernie, change sides (a handful so far) etcetera. Her hold over them is fear (the Clinton enemy list). What if all her minions suddenly decide that if they collectively support the better candidate, Clinton won't be in a position to hurt them anymore, and her whole hold over them vanishes together with her chance to serve Goldman Sachs and make some more millions?

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Response to Jack Bone (Reply #2)

Thu May 5, 2016, 03:25 PM

52. They do seem pretty nervous, begging Bernie to drop out, twisting the math, whatever it takes

to win the primary. I guess there must be a financial incentive to win the primary, even if the GE becomes hopeless at that point.

I think even running in a primary has become personally profitable (e.g., that's why 17 GoOPers ran in the primaries). The GE is just a bonus. So who cares whether we nominate a GE winner? We. Must. Nominate. Hillary. Becau$e.

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 12:39 AM

3. They were all set to say (again!) that NOW it's over

and we have to fall in line behind Hillary. The gloating had already started and now they have to dial it back. Poor babies.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Wed May 4, 2016, 06:56 AM

20. Yep... Were she to win Indiana, they'd have been likely able to shift DU into GE mode.

But now, it's on to Cali. I fervently pray a large margin shock victory.

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 12:40 AM

5. Yes, it's the insecurity.

Our candidate still has a lead that Bernie can't overcome. So you can understand our fear.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #5)

Wed May 4, 2016, 01:15 AM

10. Like Obama did, on Clinton, in 2008. Clinton had NOOOOOOOO chance to win then.

Zero. And still she stuck it out. to. the. bitter. end. Every single state voted before she gave up the ghost.

On the other hand, Sanders, today, right now, still has a chance to win--miniscule, but a chance. And there are still 13 states that would like to vote for him as their Dem of choice.

A more believable answer would have been: it's outrage that you're feeling at having to let democracy run it's course; outrage that her coronation was ruined; outrage that her time in the sun is being shaded by an "Independent whose really a socialist, not a Democrat"; outrage that she's having to spend money and time to actually earn Dems votes; and outrage that she can't pivot right yet.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #10)

Wed May 4, 2016, 01:24 AM

13. I was responding to the OP's suggestion ...

... that HRC supporters might be suffering from insecurity. Given the reality of the situation, apparently we're not.

As for "Hillary stuck it out", Bernie "still has a chance to win" - sorry, I've heard it all before, and it is irrelevant.



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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #13)

Wed May 4, 2016, 02:09 AM

14. The OPs question actually was:

Indiana has obviously amped their {Clinton supporters'} posting proclivity. Wondering why (denial?, outrage at insurrection? insecurity? their earth moved? ...)


The OP asked "why". You chose insecurity, and using a flippant insincere response pointed out why it is not the answer.

I provided an affirmative answer as to why--one that more likely could be attributed to a Clinton supporter.

Equal treatment is never irrelevant.



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Response to JimDandy (Reply #14)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:52 AM

32. I think a flippant, insincere response to a flippant, insincere query is wholly appropriate.

 

I think a flippant, insincere response to a flippant, insincere query is wholly appropriate; and by responding in kind, is in fact "equal treatment."

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #32)

Wed May 4, 2016, 12:17 PM

43. OP's question appears sincere--I'd agree otherwise.

The 'equal treatment' I referred to was in reference to our discussion on the same time points in Clinton's 2008 race vs Sander's. Easy to get lost sometimes.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #10)

Wed May 4, 2016, 03:44 AM

17. Obama was NEVER as far ahead of Hillary in 2008

As she is of Bernie now. Obama was 80 pledged delegates ahead of Hillary. Hillary is 294 pledged delegates ahead of Bernie, and yet you think Bernie has a chance? Keep peddling that lie.

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 12:43 AM

6. If Hillary has it in the bag, why are her fanpersons so angry?

Why not just sit back and wait? And why are they so pissed off that Bernie is doing exactly what Hillary did in 2008?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #6)

Wed May 4, 2016, 01:17 AM

11. Perhaps they can't stand the thought that we genuinely think there is a better candidate?

 

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #6)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:42 AM

24. Exactly. Hard to understand.

Is it the insensitivity of sheer arrogance?

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 12:55 AM

7. I have so many of the nasty ones on 'ignore'

That I don't have to see their desperation/ugliness.

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Response to alittlelark (Reply #7)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:48 AM

30. test.

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 12:56 AM

8. The other side in general --

candidate, party, surrogates, down to supporters, they're all pissed off that they don't have any levers on Bernie. They can't withdraw funding because he has his own, and they can't withdraw media because he already is getting the least they can get away with. He does his own mega-rallies instead, which they can't duplicate.

They like controlling people. And they can't control Bernie or his supporters. There is simply nothing they can do about it, and they aren't often in that position. They don't cope with it very well.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Reply #8)

Wed May 4, 2016, 06:57 AM

21. For once, their authoritarianism has failed. nt

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Reply #8)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:44 AM

25. Ah, helplessness. That could be it ...

authoritarians crave control afterall.

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 01:05 AM

9. i apparently have so many on ignore that

I'm missing the fun. There was so much over the top gloating last week that today's Bernie victory must seem to them that he's the ultimate party pooper intent on spoiling the celebration.

Maybe they should listen to the voters who today sent a clear message to the establishment: "We've seen what you're trying to sell us, but we're not buying." There's still time to nominate the candidate who will beat Trump. His name is Bernie Sanders,

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 01:18 AM

12. I think we are all waiting to see when the Berners finally throw in the towel...

 

perhaps a 'win' where he only nets delegates in the single digits will show tangibly that the numbers just won't add up.

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Response to anotherproletariat (Reply #12)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:46 AM

27. So how does that explain the explosion of Hillsy posts last night?

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 02:25 AM

15. It's David Brock's idea of damage control?

 

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 05:31 AM

18. they are tasked with beating back the progressive wave, putting the true democratic principles

genie back in the bottle. It goes beyond party and personalities.

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 06:51 AM

19. No you just don't get the purpose of primaries

Trump became the Republicans nominee tonight...Bernies fun and games need to end. He can't win and only helps Trump at this point. We thought it would go on until California. It didn't.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #19)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:48 AM

29. Bernie did win yesterday ... and looks great going forward, noit to mention the many States

he also won. Plus he leads Hillary in Dem v Trump polls by a significant margin.

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 07:47 AM

23. Another delusional thread.

 

From the missing nose clan.

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Response to Darb (Reply #23)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:50 AM

31. Here is an excellent example of the

hundreds of snarky posts that erupted beginning around 7 PM EST last night from the Hillsies group here at DU.

What was that about?

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Response to KPN (Reply #31)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:35 AM

39. Oh, you got us alright. Are you perceptive or what?

 

Wow, picking up on a note of derision compelled by ridiculous stubbornness and disconnection. You got it right. We are done with your bullshit. Now go look for your nose, quick, before it is too late.

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Response to Darb (Reply #39)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:38 AM

40. Lol!!!!

Obviously you aren't done.

But I'm sure that made you feel better.

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Response to KPN (Reply #40)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:40 AM

41. Not done until the bernies get a grip.

 

Will that come any time soon?

Doubt it. Now let'[s see you try to sabotage Hillary. Nice going, in advance.

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:46 AM

26. I've never seen political junkies get amped up on the night of an election

These bizarre paranoid threads make me laugh.

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 08:48 AM

28. I'm curious, is there any tally of the numbers of those who weren't allowed

to vote because of closed primaries, having their affiliations switched and too late to change them, etc.?

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Response to polly7 (Reply #28)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:03 AM

33. and don't forget caucuses, Bill interfering, misleading flyers and ballots,

paperless voting machines, the phony American Independents Party, misrecoding votes at caucuses, and varied and sundry other undemocratic shenanigans (well, cheating actually).

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Response to KPN (Reply #33)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:04 AM

34. Yes, those too. Can I borrow this please for an OP I made to ask my question? nt.

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Response to polly7 (Reply #34)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:06 AM

35. Go for it.

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Response to polly7 (Reply #34)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:09 AM

38. Oh, and there's this in today's Greatest Threads as well ....

[link:http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027802879|

Definitely worth a look.

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Response to KPN (Reply #33)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:08 AM

36. Thanks :) nt.

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Response to KPN (Reply #33)

Wed May 4, 2016, 10:42 AM

42. Good gawd what victimhood.

 

Damn. Bernie is up by millions right? Real voters, right? Ones that just couldn't vote in a closed primary. Billions and billions.

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 09:08 AM

37. So who has the jury results?

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #37)

Wed May 4, 2016, 01:35 PM

45. Did you alert?

Why do you think this went to a jury?

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #45)

Wed May 4, 2016, 02:00 PM

47. No

And because I read the OP

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 12:19 PM

44. The answer is simple. They hate Bernie and they hate Bernie supporters.

 

They hate that he is making HIllary work for the nomination among other things.

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Wed May 4, 2016, 01:46 PM

46. You make it so easy for when Bernie finally concedes and he will concede..

there will be no pity for his supporters here at DU.

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #46)

Wed May 4, 2016, 06:18 PM

48. Oh geez. That'll really break my heart!!

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Response to KPN (Reply #48)

Wed May 4, 2016, 07:12 PM

49. When he concedes your heart will break...n/t

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #49)

Thu May 5, 2016, 03:14 PM

50. Lol. Have the last word if you must.

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Thu May 5, 2016, 03:20 PM

51. California is coming, Bernie will catch her in delegates

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Thu May 5, 2016, 03:31 PM

53. They're still wrapping their heads around everything that is true and that we have been telling them

 

for months. Ever since the wheels fell off the bus at the first of the year we have been dealing with it. The Great Coast to Coast Disenfranchisement Tour derailed the discussion. Instead of talking about the Corporate Coup d'Etat, we are talking about how electable she is against Trump (that pesky triangulation thing, again)

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Response to KPN (Original post)

Thu May 5, 2016, 03:31 PM

54. overtime pay?

bonuses?

comp time?

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