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KPN

(15,633 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:23 AM May 2016

Just an observation before going to bed ...

the Hillsies are out in force tonight here at DU.

Indiana has obviously amped their posting proclivity. Wondering why (denial?, outrage at insurrection? insecurity? their earth moved? ...), but too tired to offer any cogent theories at the moment.

Anyone care to help?

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Just an observation before going to bed ... (Original Post) KPN May 2016 OP
The usual petulant outrage at "insurrection," indeed. villager May 2016 #1
I think they're scared.... Jack Bone May 2016 #2
Here's another, oldie but goodie: silvershadow May 2016 #4
Hey, are you still watching the HRC group? betsuni May 2016 #22
Certainy: Clinton's pathway to victory has dramatically narrowed, Betty Karlson May 2016 #16
They do seem pretty nervous, begging Bernie to drop out, twisting the math, whatever it takes lagomorph777 May 2016 #52
They were all set to say (again!) that NOW it's over The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #3
Yep... Were she to win Indiana, they'd have been likely able to shift DU into GE mode. VulgarPoet May 2016 #20
Yes, it's the insecurity. NanceGreggs May 2016 #5
Like Obama did, on Clinton, in 2008. Clinton had NOOOOOOOO chance to win then. JimDandy May 2016 #10
I was responding to the OP's suggestion ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #13
The OPs question actually was: JimDandy May 2016 #14
I think a flippant, insincere response to a flippant, insincere query is wholly appropriate. LanternWaste May 2016 #32
OP's question appears sincere--I'd agree otherwise. JimDandy May 2016 #43
Obama was NEVER as far ahead of Hillary in 2008 vdogg May 2016 #17
If Hillary has it in the bag, why are her fanpersons so angry? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #6
Perhaps they can't stand the thought that we genuinely think there is a better candidate? highprincipleswork May 2016 #11
Exactly. Hard to understand. KPN May 2016 #24
I have so many of the nasty ones on 'ignore' alittlelark May 2016 #7
test. stonecutter357 May 2016 #30
The other side in general -- Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #8
For once, their authoritarianism has failed. nt VulgarPoet May 2016 #21
Ah, helplessness. That could be it ... KPN May 2016 #25
i apparently have so many on ignore that LibDemAlways May 2016 #9
I think we are all waiting to see when the Berners finally throw in the towel... anotherproletariat May 2016 #12
So how does that explain the explosion of Hillsy posts last night? KPN May 2016 #27
It's David Brock's idea of damage control? Betty Karlson May 2016 #15
they are tasked with beating back the progressive wave, putting the true democratic principles corkhead May 2016 #18
No you just don't get the purpose of primaries Demsrule86 May 2016 #19
Bernie did win yesterday ... and looks great going forward, noit to mention the many States KPN May 2016 #29
Another delusional thread. Darb May 2016 #23
Here is an excellent example of the KPN May 2016 #31
Oh, you got us alright. Are you perceptive or what? Darb May 2016 #39
Lol!!!! KPN May 2016 #40
Not done until the bernies get a grip. Darb May 2016 #41
I've never seen political junkies get amped up on the night of an election Dem2 May 2016 #26
I'm curious, is there any tally of the numbers of those who weren't allowed polly7 May 2016 #28
and don't forget caucuses, Bill interfering, misleading flyers and ballots, KPN May 2016 #33
Yes, those too. Can I borrow this please for an OP I made to ask my question? nt. polly7 May 2016 #34
Go for it. KPN May 2016 #35
Oh, and there's this in today's Greatest Threads as well .... KPN May 2016 #38
Thanks :) nt. polly7 May 2016 #36
Good gawd what victimhood. Darb May 2016 #42
So who has the jury results? Capt. Obvious May 2016 #37
Did you alert? JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #45
No Capt. Obvious May 2016 #47
The answer is simple. They hate Bernie and they hate Bernie supporters. morningfog May 2016 #44
You make it so easy for when Bernie finally concedes and he will concede.. asuhornets May 2016 #46
Oh geez. That'll really break my heart!! KPN May 2016 #48
When he concedes your heart will break...n/t asuhornets May 2016 #49
Lol. Have the last word if you must. KPN May 2016 #50
California is coming, Bernie will catch her in delegates onecaliberal May 2016 #51
They're still wrapping their heads around everything that is true and that we have been telling them silvershadow May 2016 #53
overtime pay? grasswire May 2016 #54

betsuni

(25,350 posts)
22. Hey, are you still watching the HRC group?
Wed May 4, 2016, 08:42 AM
May 2016

"I'm watching the HRC group! Berners, log in please! We need as many logged in as possible at all time to help weigh the juries!"

Way to go!

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
16. Certainy: Clinton's pathway to victory has dramatically narrowed,
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:31 AM
May 2016

and her road of inevitability is closed by now. Besides: polls have shown her dismal chances in the GE (she alone seems to be losing to ALL GOP candidates, even to Trumpm in hypothetic match-ups) and so she must be worried about that small trickle of superdelegates that publicly demonstrate willingness to support Bernie, change sides (a handful so far) etcetera. Her hold over them is fear (the Clinton enemy list). What if all her minions suddenly decide that if they collectively support the better candidate, Clinton won't be in a position to hurt them anymore, and her whole hold over them vanishes together with her chance to serve Goldman Sachs and make some more millions?

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
52. They do seem pretty nervous, begging Bernie to drop out, twisting the math, whatever it takes
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

to win the primary. I guess there must be a financial incentive to win the primary, even if the GE becomes hopeless at that point.

I think even running in a primary has become personally profitable (e.g., that's why 17 GoOPers ran in the primaries). The GE is just a bonus. So who cares whether we nominate a GE winner? We. Must. Nominate. Hillary. Becau$e.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,520 posts)
3. They were all set to say (again!) that NOW it's over
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:39 AM
May 2016

and we have to fall in line behind Hillary. The gloating had already started and now they have to dial it back. Poor babies.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
20. Yep... Were she to win Indiana, they'd have been likely able to shift DU into GE mode.
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:56 AM
May 2016

But now, it's on to Cali. I fervently pray a large margin shock victory.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
5. Yes, it's the insecurity.
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:40 AM
May 2016

Our candidate still has a lead that Bernie can't overcome. So you can understand our fear.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
10. Like Obama did, on Clinton, in 2008. Clinton had NOOOOOOOO chance to win then.
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:15 AM
May 2016

Zero. And still she stuck it out. to. the. bitter. end. Every single state voted before she gave up the ghost.

On the other hand, Sanders, today, right now, still has a chance to win--miniscule, but a chance. And there are still 13 states that would like to vote for him as their Dem of choice.

A more believable answer would have been: it's outrage that you're feeling at having to let democracy run it's course; outrage that her coronation was ruined; outrage that her time in the sun is being shaded by an "Independent whose really a socialist, not a Democrat"; outrage that she's having to spend money and time to actually earn Dems votes; and outrage that she can't pivot right yet.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
13. I was responding to the OP's suggestion ...
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:24 AM
May 2016

... that HRC supporters might be suffering from insecurity. Given the reality of the situation, apparently we're not.

As for "Hillary stuck it out", Bernie "still has a chance to win" - sorry, I've heard it all before, and it is irrelevant.



JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
14. The OPs question actually was:
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:09 AM
May 2016
Indiana has obviously amped their {Clinton supporters'} posting proclivity. Wondering why (denial?, outrage at insurrection? insecurity? their earth moved? ...)


The OP asked "why". You chose insecurity, and using a flippant insincere response pointed out why it is not the answer.

I provided an affirmative answer as to why--one that more likely could be attributed to a Clinton supporter.

Equal treatment is never irrelevant.



 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
32. I think a flippant, insincere response to a flippant, insincere query is wholly appropriate.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:52 AM
May 2016

I think a flippant, insincere response to a flippant, insincere query is wholly appropriate; and by responding in kind, is in fact "equal treatment."

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
43. OP's question appears sincere--I'd agree otherwise.
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:17 PM
May 2016

The 'equal treatment' I referred to was in reference to our discussion on the same time points in Clinton's 2008 race vs Sander's. Easy to get lost sometimes.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
17. Obama was NEVER as far ahead of Hillary in 2008
Wed May 4, 2016, 04:44 AM
May 2016

As she is of Bernie now. Obama was 80 pledged delegates ahead of Hillary. Hillary is 294 pledged delegates ahead of Bernie, and yet you think Bernie has a chance? Keep peddling that lie.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,520 posts)
6. If Hillary has it in the bag, why are her fanpersons so angry?
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:43 AM
May 2016

Why not just sit back and wait? And why are they so pissed off that Bernie is doing exactly what Hillary did in 2008?

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
8. The other side in general --
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:56 AM
May 2016

candidate, party, surrogates, down to supporters, they're all pissed off that they don't have any levers on Bernie. They can't withdraw funding because he has his own, and they can't withdraw media because he already is getting the least they can get away with. He does his own mega-rallies instead, which they can't duplicate.

They like controlling people. And they can't control Bernie or his supporters. There is simply nothing they can do about it, and they aren't often in that position. They don't cope with it very well.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
9. i apparently have so many on ignore that
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:05 AM
May 2016

I'm missing the fun. There was so much over the top gloating last week that today's Bernie victory must seem to them that he's the ultimate party pooper intent on spoiling the celebration.

Maybe they should listen to the voters who today sent a clear message to the establishment: "We've seen what you're trying to sell us, but we're not buying." There's still time to nominate the candidate who will beat Trump. His name is Bernie Sanders,

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
12. I think we are all waiting to see when the Berners finally throw in the towel...
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:18 AM
May 2016

perhaps a 'win' where he only nets delegates in the single digits will show tangibly that the numbers just won't add up.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
18. they are tasked with beating back the progressive wave, putting the true democratic principles
Wed May 4, 2016, 06:31 AM
May 2016

genie back in the bottle. It goes beyond party and personalities.

Demsrule86

(68,440 posts)
19. No you just don't get the purpose of primaries
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:51 AM
May 2016

Trump became the Republicans nominee tonight...Bernies fun and games need to end. He can't win and only helps Trump at this point. We thought it would go on until California. It didn't.

KPN

(15,633 posts)
29. Bernie did win yesterday ... and looks great going forward, noit to mention the many States
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:48 AM
May 2016

he also won. Plus he leads Hillary in Dem v Trump polls by a significant margin.

KPN

(15,633 posts)
31. Here is an excellent example of the
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:50 AM
May 2016

hundreds of snarky posts that erupted beginning around 7 PM EST last night from the Hillsies group here at DU.

What was that about?

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
39. Oh, you got us alright. Are you perceptive or what?
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:35 AM
May 2016

Wow, picking up on a note of derision compelled by ridiculous stubbornness and disconnection. You got it right. We are done with your bullshit. Now go look for your nose, quick, before it is too late.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
41. Not done until the bernies get a grip.
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:40 AM
May 2016

Will that come any time soon?

Doubt it. Now let'[s see you try to sabotage Hillary. Nice going, in advance.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
26. I've never seen political junkies get amped up on the night of an election
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:46 AM
May 2016

These bizarre paranoid threads make me laugh.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
28. I'm curious, is there any tally of the numbers of those who weren't allowed
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:48 AM
May 2016

to vote because of closed primaries, having their affiliations switched and too late to change them, etc.?

KPN

(15,633 posts)
33. and don't forget caucuses, Bill interfering, misleading flyers and ballots,
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:03 AM
May 2016

paperless voting machines, the phony American Independents Party, misrecoding votes at caucuses, and varied and sundry other undemocratic shenanigans (well, cheating actually).

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
42. Good gawd what victimhood.
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:42 AM
May 2016

Damn. Bernie is up by millions right? Real voters, right? Ones that just couldn't vote in a closed primary. Billions and billions.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
44. The answer is simple. They hate Bernie and they hate Bernie supporters.
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:19 PM
May 2016

They hate that he is making HIllary work for the nomination among other things.

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
46. You make it so easy for when Bernie finally concedes and he will concede..
Wed May 4, 2016, 02:46 PM
May 2016

there will be no pity for his supporters here at DU.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
53. They're still wrapping their heads around everything that is true and that we have been telling them
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:31 PM
May 2016

for months. Ever since the wheels fell off the bus at the first of the year we have been dealing with it. The Great Coast to Coast Disenfranchisement Tour derailed the discussion. Instead of talking about the Corporate Coup d'Etat, we are talking about how electable she is against Trump (that pesky triangulation thing, again)

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