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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:13 AM May 2016

Hillary supporters need to stop panicking.

Yes, she'll be the nominee and she'll decimate Trump. The General Election is very different from the primaries. She'll destroy him in debates. He won't throw her off her game. He's wildly undisciplined. His organization doesn't compare to hers. I've read that her campaign has tons of as yet unrevealed dirt on him. He's incapable of pivoting to a more palatable GE candidate. The republican party is hopelessly fractured.

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Hillary supporters need to stop panicking. (Original Post) cali May 2016 OP
Where is the panic? Not seeing it. n/t seaglass May 2016 #1
+1 Buzz Clik May 2016 #39
+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #59
It's not about panic it is about reality. Hillary has to fight Trump, the GOP, the media, Bernie Jitter65 May 2016 #69
No panic on the primary side. JaneyVee May 2016 #2
Let her campaign do that work. They're good at this. cali May 2016 #4
They should panic NWCorona May 2016 #3
ok Buzz Clik May 2016 #41
That's a funny one and I might have to borrow that lol! NWCorona May 2016 #44
"Disqualify, Destroy, Unify Later" Joob May 2016 #5
But she never said that, don't you know... JudyM May 2016 #11
No, those were words from some talking head on tv KittyWampus May 2016 #57
I hope you're right, but I don't think we can afford to be complacent for this election. auntpurl May 2016 #6
No one is panicking... CrowCityDem May 2016 #7
Plenty of obvious panic from her supporters here. cali May 2016 #8
You're confusing frustration that Bernie won't admit reality with panic. Very, very different. CrowCityDem May 2016 #10
Lol. And no. Wild accusations demonstrate the panic. cali May 2016 #13
What was 'wild' about it? CrowCityDem May 2016 #18
You're panicking, alright? You may not know it, but we do. Breathe into a paper sack, ok? Buzz Clik May 2016 #43
Projecting much? CrowCityDem May 2016 #45
Easy, sport. I'm on your side. Buzz Clik May 2016 #49
The problem of the internet. CrowCityDem May 2016 #50
Agreed. But part of the joy of it. Buzz Clik May 2016 #56
Only in your own mind. We already know she won, there is no contested convention KittyWampus May 2016 #58
I don't think math means what you think it means TimPlo May 2016 #16
Math says he needs 65% in EVERY state, not just CA. CrowCityDem May 2016 #19
Ok then that is still possable. TimPlo May 2016 #22
It's impossible like Bernie says Hillary getting to 2,383 is, even though she technically can. CrowCityDem May 2016 #27
Can post a link to where Bernie said this? TimPlo May 2016 #33
He says it in every speech. That's the entirety of his 'contested contest' strategy. CrowCityDem May 2016 #34
Yes, why let democracy play out? kiva May 2016 #24
Suspending doesn't cancel those primaries. You can still vote for Bernie. We'll have just moved on. CrowCityDem May 2016 #28
Moving on past those voters. kiva May 2016 #35
Nominations are often settled before the last states vote. CrowCityDem May 2016 #36
Just keep on with that strategy, kiva May 2016 #65
Am I right in guessing that you have already voted? potone May 2016 #40
That's why coronations. Octafish May 2016 #9
They will deny they are panicking of course. But I don't think this will be a cake walk for Hillary berni_mccoy May 2016 #12
Disagree. Republicans will happily vote for Trump over Clinton. Dawgs May 2016 #14
Are you a Berniebro ? stonecutter357 May 2016 #15
Prepare yourself for a schooling, dude. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #20
It's all they have. berni_mccoy May 2016 #25
A schooling from bernie fanatics? stonecutter357 May 2016 #29
They could type real slow, TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #66
! frylock May 2016 #71
Name calling is uncalled for and rude and nasty. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #23
i am not Name calling...... stonecutter357 May 2016 #26
Then call it out when your fellow Sanders supporters do it. Hypocrisy KittyWampus May 2016 #61
No. I'm no one's "bro". cali May 2016 #48
You confuse panic with exasperation. Codeine May 2016 #17
The order of primaries was different in 2008. potone May 2016 #46
Nobody's going to let their vote be affected by DU rhetoric. Codeine May 2016 #53
Wow! potone May 2016 #64
It's easy to be distracted and annoyed to the point of anger ... but I'm not panicked. :-) NurseJackie May 2016 #21
Well Jacks, fact is both candidates and also down ticket Democrats are currently in need of Bluenorthwest May 2016 #42
Lol. I see your posts as pure parody. As for haters...... cali May 2016 #51
Well thank goodness! I'm glad that SOMEONE is enjoying them! :-P NurseJackie May 2016 #63
Awww... let 'em panic. Smarmie Doofus May 2016 #30
Welcome back Cali :) Hydra May 2016 #31
Good to see you again, Cali. VulgarPoet May 2016 #32
Hillary must be free to pivot to the center lest she lose the much coveted Reagan Democrats Fumesucker May 2016 #37
Welcome back! Great to see you. emulatorloo May 2016 #38
Lol. Ok. n/t JTFrog May 2016 #47
She also has the Corporate Establishment Money behind her. quantumjunkie May 2016 #52
Who is panicking? Sanders supporters need to stop claiming Clinton won by cheating. KittyWampus May 2016 #54
I don't see anyone panicking Capt. Obvious May 2016 #55
Cuz they are friends it will be scripted. bkkyosemite May 2016 #60
Panic? The primary is decided, and Clinton won. The last few contests are perfunctory at best. IamMab May 2016 #62
Worse than rock and hard place and it's not only their foolish supporters who should be worried nolabels May 2016 #67
I am not panicking at all Gothmog May 2016 #68
Cali, I see that you're back. Beacool May 2016 #70
 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
69. It's not about panic it is about reality. Hillary has to fight Trump, the GOP, the media, Bernie
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:31 PM
May 2016

Sanders and his supporters, and unless her supporters become more energized and rally around her she will bear a very heavy weight and it could be come demoralizing.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
2. No panic on the primary side.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:15 AM
May 2016

But we should all start decimating Trump immediately because he is the GOP nominee.

Joob

(1,065 posts)
5. "Disqualify, Destroy, Unify Later"
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:18 AM
May 2016

Words from Hillary's campaign. Wonder what part they on now? Do they think they destroyed Bernie? Do they think we'll unify under Hillary's campaign with such a horrible message. No, I'll never forget.

JudyM

(29,236 posts)
11. But she never said that, don't you know...
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:23 AM
May 2016

He attacked her qualifications 1st and it was unprovoked and sexist!!

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
6. I hope you're right, but I don't think we can afford to be complacent for this election.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:19 AM
May 2016

Even a small chance of that motherfucker being in the White House is enough to make my skin crawl.

We thought all along that he would say or do something that would destroy his campaign, but his insane jackbooted minions just lap it up. How many of them are there, that's the question?

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
7. No one is panicking...
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:20 AM
May 2016

We just want Bernie to understand that he lost so that we can move along to the general election. Trump is horrible, and will certainly lose, but why should we give him a month or two month head start on getting the machine rolling? If Bernie had a chance, that would be one thing. But since everyone who understands math knows it's over, he is now officially holding back the party, which is something that I can't abide by.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
13. Lol. And no. Wild accusations demonstrate the panic.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:26 AM
May 2016

And I've noted a high degree of delusion among hillarians. For example, the batshit claim from many du Hillary supporters that Bernie is more of a hawk than Hillary.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
18. What was 'wild' about it?
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:37 AM
May 2016

You said there's panic. I said there isn't. That's not the least bit wild. Check your adjective game.

While I won't compare the two, did you happen to see the post recently that linked to an article detailing how Bernie had repeatedly voted to make it the official position of the US that Saddam Hussein needed to be forcibly removed from office? I think the point the people you're talking about are making is that Bernie is not the pacifist people are believing him to be.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
49. Easy, sport. I'm on your side.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:08 AM
May 2016

The ridicule is for the author of the OP.

(I'm not a big fan of the <sarsasm> gif. If the sarcasm isn't apparent, well, so be it.)

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
56. Agreed. But part of the joy of it.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:12 AM
May 2016

I get to insult so many people with so little effort and no consequences.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
58. Only in your own mind. We already know she won, there is no contested convention
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:14 AM
May 2016

and she will win in Novembers DESPITE being attacked by Trump and Sanders.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
16. I don't think math means what you think it means
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:32 AM
May 2016

From what I understand if he wins 65% in CA then he could take pledge delegate lead? That not even counting other states. So in what world does 65% if we go by math mean 0%? Now he is not likely to win if take into consideration history. But Math does not care about history it only counts on mathematical rules. So when say he has not chance because math you are just using math wrong. If think he has not chance then you should be saying that you are basing it off your belief in that he can not get 65% of votes in CA. Even Statistics which one could use to justify your hypothesize is not really applicable in this situation because this primary at the moment has no model we can use effectively, even more so now that CA does not need to vote for a primary. It is funny that you know nothing about math and yet want to use "But since everyone who understands math knows it's over" For record I don't think Sanders will get the nomination but I am no so blinded delusional that I do not think that math can say he can't. It is my opinion not some mathematical conclusion that I could write a paper on.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
22. Ok then that is still possable.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:43 AM
May 2016

Math alone does not say he can't do it. Stop saying it is impossible as that is a lie and serves no purpose other than you try to win some how on a internet forum. We have a a few states that need to vote so why try and post stupid statements only meant to be a jerk to someone who supports Sanders. Let them think that it is possible if you are so sure it can not happen. It is not like this website is going to influence peoples votes. No one is so stupid that they would determine who vote for based on a website forums.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
33. Can post a link to where Bernie said this?
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:49 AM
May 2016

I have not read this and would like to see where he said this.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
24. Yes, why let democracy play out?
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:44 AM
May 2016

Why let those people who were silly enough to live in a state with late primaries have the right to vote for their candidate?

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
28. Suspending doesn't cancel those primaries. You can still vote for Bernie. We'll have just moved on.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:46 AM
May 2016

potone

(1,701 posts)
40. Am I right in guessing that you have already voted?
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:01 AM
May 2016

Some of us haven't had the opportunity to vote yet, and we would appreciate having the opportunity to vote for our candidate before the convention. Otherwise it will be impossible to unite the party behind Hillary if she does become the nominee, as looks likely.

Why are some of you Hillary voters so dismissive of the democratic process? It seems hypocritical to me that so many of her supporters on this site simultaneously complain the Bernie is not a "real Democrat" while wanting to deny Democratic voters the right to vote for our candidate.

Stop trying to bully us and we may support Hillary in the GE. Unless, of course, you don't want our votes. If that is the case, you are going about it in the right way.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
12. They will deny they are panicking of course. But I don't think this will be a cake walk for Hillary
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:24 AM
May 2016

Trump beat 15 establishment candidates who had 100's of millions of dollars to spend (and they spent it!) and he destroyed each of them in turn. Some of them, in particular, Bush and Christie, had political machinery behind them as well. I do not have the optimism you do when it comes to Hillary beating Trump. Bernie absolutely could, Hillary, I doubt it.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
61. Then call it out when your fellow Sanders supporters do it. Hypocrisy
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:15 AM
May 2016

Hypocrisy isn't just what you do say, it's also what you don't say.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
17. You confuse panic with exasperation.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:33 AM
May 2016

Obama supporters were irritated when Clinton dragged it out in 08, and she was WAY closer in delegates and ahead in actual votes (with the caveat that two states screwed themselves out of counting that year). In hindsight the Obama supporters were right, though I didn't see it at the time.

Folks are weary of the Black Knight shtick. It's not a flesh wound. He's done. That's all, no panic.

'Cause yeah, she's got this.

potone

(1,701 posts)
46. The order of primaries was different in 2008.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:06 AM
May 2016

The schedule was set up this time to favor more conservative states. It makes no sense for Bernie to drop out before more liberal states, including my state of Oregon and the far larger state of California have the chance to vote.

Just be patient; you will probably win soon enough. You are harming your candidate by this steady drumbeat of calls for Bernie to drop out; it just alienates the Bernie supporters that you will need in the GE.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
53. Nobody's going to let their vote be affected by DU rhetoric.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:10 AM
May 2016

Most Bernie supporters will vote Clinton, some won't. No amount of nicey-nice handjobbery is going to make that second group support Hillary so it's best to stop worrying about them and move on to the real work.

potone

(1,701 posts)
64. Wow!
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:27 AM
May 2016

"Nicey-nice handjobbery" is how you describe Democrats who wish to have the opportunity to vote for their preferred candidate. You know, you just could be wrong. Trump could win if Democrats and Independents who support Sanders simply stay home on election day, or just vote down ticket. The "real work" that you have to do is going to include giving us a reason to vote for her besides the sheer horribleness of Donald Trump.

I'm done with this conversation.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. It's easy to be distracted and annoyed to the point of anger ... but I'm not panicked. :-)
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:40 AM
May 2016

The HillaryHaters have all gone insane! They're living in their own little fantasy world ... feeding on the lies, regurgitating the lies, and letting others feed on their regurgitation. It's a vicious cycle.

Particularly amusing is how victimized so many of them feel. How awful it must be for anyone to be in an 85% aggressive and suppressive majority and have to deal with 15% who fight back.

Argh!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
42. Well Jacks, fact is both candidates and also down ticket Democrats are currently in need of
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:01 AM
May 2016

voter turnout in all the upcoming States. Hundreds of Democratic volunteers are and will be working hard for those candidates and to bring out the votes. Good Democrats should be mindful of those volunteers, candidates and the objectives they hold, objectives this entire Party is supposed to be assisting them in obtaining.
Hillary supporters often claim she's better for down ticket candidates but telling CA not to bother because it's already over does nothing for those candidates, that's the opposite of coat tails- it's more like pulling the rug out from under them than pulling them along on our own strengths.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
31. Welcome back Cali :)
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:46 AM
May 2016

The panic level from Clinton staffers has been at a fever pitch for months now. It's most likely not Trump causing it, because this was the favored matchup. Hints are that the DNC are looking at a third option if Hillary cannot cleanly cinch the nomination due to whatever is going on behind the scenes...so the obvious answer is to try and get Bernie off the field by getting his people to give up.

You know that whole thing about you go to war with the army you have? Well, you're seeing it :p

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
37. Hillary must be free to pivot to the center lest she lose the much coveted Reagan Democrats
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:56 AM
May 2016

Clearly Hillary was never destined to be a NASCAR driver, "He's turning left, he's taking another left..."

 

quantumjunkie

(244 posts)
52. She also has the Corporate Establishment Money behind her.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:09 AM
May 2016

To them trump is ironically to the left of Hillary, in terms of business, and that wont do. So she will make a mint from big donations against him. Of course, as usual, Hillary is also the best investment, since she always returns the favor

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
62. Panic? The primary is decided, and Clinton won. The last few contests are perfunctory at best.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:20 AM
May 2016

And only serve to allow Bernie Sanders to grift more money to siphon towards his media consultants.

$19 million in April alone to "Old Towne Media." That's more than 703,000 donations of $27. Tad Devine also took home another $2 million for the same time period. Talk about berning through money...

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
67. Worse than rock and hard place and it's not only their foolish supporters who should be worried
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:39 AM
May 2016

If you asked me, i would say that H and T most glaring similarities is their hateful spite and vindictiveness. This will not bode well for the rest of us no matter who gets installed. You can just look around even here at DU and see it's effects

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
70. Cali, I see that you're back.
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:39 PM
May 2016

I haven't seen anyone panicking. Hillary will be the nominee, will she win over Trump? Hopefully yes, the thought of the yellow haired narcissist buffoon as president is way too scary to consider.

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