Are there any Hillary fans upset that Hillary didnt spend $$$ in Indiana?

[JaneyVee]

Being the race was so close, she probably couldve eeked out a win if she dumped money into GOTV drives and tv/radio ads. Or is everyone ok with saving the cash and not contesting this race?

[NWCorona]

1. I think it was a tactical error for sure.

Look at the life his victory breathed into his supporters. Last night was a huge win.

[JaneyVee]

5. Im not really a fan of not contesting states...

I jabbed Bernie for doing it but the difference was Bernie was pulling in cash and it was bad optics to dismiss an entire region with the highest proportion of marginalized and disenfranchised citizens, and a core demographic base of the Democratic party. Indiana seems more like a campaign strategy.

Also, its good that his fans stay fired up.

[Loudestlib]

23. Hillary has won lots of votes and delegates but her supporters don't seem to donate much.

Maybe the idea that she's going to win the primary irregardless of what Sanders does is hurting her donations? It's not a big deal for this primary but if she wins the primary and nothing changes it could hurt her in the GE. You need independents and young voters to win the GE and those votes take cash.

I think it was a smart move to not spend money, when donations are uncertain, in an open primary state.

[Arkansas Granny]

26. Hillary is not having money troubles.

Hillary Clinton Raised More Than Bernie Sanders in April
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/05/02/hillary-clinton-raised-more-than-bernie-sanders-in-april/

You can also check here to see how much has been donated and how much cash each candidate has on hand.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/election-2016-campaign-money-race.html

[Hortensis]

54. Hillary is our party leader now, not Sanders.

She and the rest of the party leadership decide our GE strategy and timetable, not him. His refusal to concede after he has lost needs to be his problem alone because we really need to move on to deal with the enormous threat from the right.

Hillary will of course be campaigning in all the states still to hold their primaries, but she will be focusing mainly on general election issues, leaving Bernie to continue his struggle against the popular vote by himself.

Of course, now that the nomination is secured, no matter how well funded she is, all possible investment should go to defeating the GOP. Wasting millions on widening the gap between her and Sanders as much as possible is, to put it mildly, undesirable. This isn't horseshoes, and she has already won.

[Arkansas Granny]

60. Focusing on the GE seems to be her strategy already. I think that's wise.

[morningfog]

64. Then she really should have put some time and money into Indiana.

[Hortensis]

72. Yes. She actually made the announcement a few days ago

after Sanders insisted he was going to the convention to have the popular vote set aside.

Onward and upward.

[JaneyVee]

66. I definitely do think the idea of...

Her lead of being insurmountable makes her supporters complacent.

[apcalc]

13. It was a win, but a loss

It just puts him further behind in the end....

[BootinUp]

2. The only way it makes sense to me is that they decided to take

the high road in favor of party unity.

[JudyM]

4. What a laugh!

[virtualobserver]

28. you would have to be really "high" to imagine that Hillary was taking the high road.

[KittyWampus]

45. she's not the one lying about rigged state primaries and contested conventions.

Her campaign isn't the one who stole data, impersonated union members and misappropriated logos to fake endorsements.

She's not the one who lied twice on tv about being invited by Pope Francis to speak at the Vatican.

She's not the one who lied about using TurboTax vs. having an accountant and not being able to release their taxes.

[virtualobserver]

74. stringing pieces of nonsense together is very Brockian

[JaneyVee]

7. You think it would look bad...

For Hillary to keep trying to run up the score? Kinda like a mercy rule thing?

[BootinUp]

10. More like not asking Bernie to drop out so his supporters can vote

their conscience.

[leftynyc]

39. Hillary has never asked

Bernie to bow out. Not once.

[JudyM]

41. No, she just pays her minions to do it on an hourly basis.

[leftynyc]

44. Yawn

Riiiiggghhhhtttt - the desperation is getting pathetic and hard to watch.

[JudyM]

48. Please feel free to proceed to GD and leave those of us who believe in progress, in peace.

Since you're getting tired of our truth, no need for you to suffer through it...

[leftynyc]

53. LOL - truth?

That's pretty funny. How about the TRUTH that there is no way for Bernie to catch up to Hillary with pledged delegates? That after whining about superdelegates NOW you want them to overturn the will of the majority of voters in the Democratic primaries to install your candidate? How about those truths?

[JudyM]

56. DWS is forcing us to play be her rules, plain and simple. You want to talk about changing positions

please look at Hillary's endless list.

[leftynyc]

57. HER rules?

These same exact rules have been in place since the 1980s. Have you been complaining about them since then or just since your candidate is losing? But I don't blame you for trying to change the subject. It's really all you have at this point.

[JudyM]

58. Hm, that may be true. However, "all we have" is the far more progressive and ethical candidate.

[leftynyc]

59. May be true?

Why can't you just admit you had no problems with the rules until your candidate didn't win?

[JudyM]

63. I never gave them any thought and haven't researched them. I have, though, researched both

Hillary and Bernie and believe to my core based on this that Bernie is both the better person (despite having a Y chromosome) to be POTUS, BY FAR, as well as our best chance to beat tRump, BY FAR.

I started as a Hillary supporter. Then I read more with an open mind. As a liberal feminist there is no question whatsoever in my view about who is better, it is not even remotely a contest. And I understand you have a different view, that is your choice, too.

DWS and HRC have been imposing their own rules on the primary, as well, such as number of debates... He has to play on their field, it's a pity how they are trying to stifle honest, open competition, in favor of crowning Ms Inevitable.

[leftynyc]

71. Now tell me EXACTLY how they're

trying to stifle honest open communication.

[JudyM]

88. I'm done with you for today, leftynyc... Asking for proof in every thread when the evidence has

been amply posted here if you were genuinely interested.

Go pester someone else, preferably in the "she's being victimized" camp ...

[grasswire]

81. Hillary supporters know it too.

They know her weaknesses and her wrong policy positions. They just hope others won't.

[frylock]

87. On this we can agree.

[CrowCityDem]

3. I'm not upset. Bernie fell further behind the % needed the rest of the way.

[metroins]

6. Not me

I'd be OK with her spending zero the rest of the campaign and spending time in the battleground states.

The goal is to win the Whitehouse, not demoralize Sanders. He already lost back in March.

[JaneyVee]

11. I feel similarly.

[leftynyc]

40. Same here

Last night was meaningless in the delegate race. He barely put a dent (got 5 more delegates than she did) in her delegate lead. It's over and no need to run up the score.

[onehandle]

8. Save the cash. The primary is over. It's Trump time. nt

[morningfog]

62. Trump time includes trying to win Indiana in the general. She thumbed her nose at them

and missed an opportunity to help put IN in play. Dumb move.

[apcalc]

9. No, it's over

[LexVegas]

12. No problem. Why spend money punching down at an opponent that is beaten? nt

[JaneyVee]

17. Smart take.

[firebrand80]

14. No

Because Bernie wasn't dropping out regardless.

By November, few people are even going to remember what happened back in May. Obama was losing primaries late in the process to, but once he became the nominee all was forgotten.

I'd rather she save the cash. She's running against a candidate that has the luxury of not having to look past next month.

[peace13]

18. .....and picking the pockets of State Dems.

The chickens will come home to roost.

[Adrahil]

15. Nope, the real target is in November.

Sanders underperformed his targets by 25 points. No need to waste money on that.

She probably SHOULD focus some effort on California and NJ to finish strong.

[KittyWampus]

47. I agree, CA and NJ are worth fighting for.

[peace13]

16. On the same line, remember when Bernie went to sleep in his own home after the NY primary...

...and everybody said he was going home to regroup and decide if he should throw in the towel. Well Hill wasn't in IN yesterday, came to Ohio to do a little GE politicking where she got smacked down from the gallery and to top it all off went back to NY to sleep. The cherry was that Bernie smacked her harder than predicted in IN. Not one word about her licking her wounds or preparing to quit. The double standard is clear.

Bernie Sanders is a go getter. He does not rest. Hill needs to continue to fight unless of course she thinks that things are taken care of. Bernie doesn't have the luxury.

Hill should probably have used some of her Colony cash in In to at least appear to care. I think it was a mistake.

[JaneyVee]

20. You think the media would....

Speculate about her licking her wounds or preparing to quit when she leads by 290 delegates?

[peace13]

22. No but they might want to question her energy level...

...and ability to keep up with a race that is not finished. She looked like she was hiding out to me.

[KittyWampus]

49. LOL! Don't talk about 'energy levels'. Sanders and his wife can't cough up their taxes.

[peace13]

90. I think you are confused but have a nice day.

[Tarc]

19. She spent zippity-do-dah and won 38 delegates in a red state, low A-A pop open primary

I am more than fine with that.

[Iliyah]

38. Yeah a "red" state that previously I've been told don't mean a hill of beans because

in November they are gonna vote GOP anyways. But alas, that scenario only pertains to HRC. "Double standard raises it's ugly head once again.

[NurseJackie]

21. She and her campaign have always been pragmatic about such things ...

... I trust their judgement and won't second-guess their decisions. They see the same math that we do, and they know where their campaign funds will produce the biggest bang-for-the-buck.

Bragging-rights would have been fun, but at what cost? And at what long-term benefit?

She's still WAY AHEAD of Bernie, and Bernie is still WAY behind (and a lot poorer for it.)

[Starry Messenger]

24. No. She got 37 more delegates for practically free.

[LisaM]

29. And his came at $285,000 a pop.

I didn't think she'd win Indiana anyway. More of a GOP crossover vote than in Michigan, even, with Cruz dead in the water and the rest of the GOP field gone. I think he overspent.

[Starry Messenger]

31. That money should be going to downticket races. :(

[LisaM]

33. The Sanders money? I am not sure it can.

He filed paperwork for a joint fund, but to date, I don't think he has raised any money for it.

[jcgoldie]

25. I'm ok with it

She's got this. The Sanders campaign seems to be in denial, not sure how it would have changed much if she'd won by a delegate or two rather than losing by five. Anyone who is paying attention and isn't biased completely in the opposite direction realizes this has been over for awhile. Save the bread for when it counts.

[ViseGrip]

27. Hillary's money calendar has been upset. Many donors are maxed out.

She has to watch it, and she's spending on the general campaign right now, making hires, etc.

How you spend your money is part of your strategy.

[LuvLoogie]

30. He's "burning the oil wells." A defeated autocrat.

[IamMab]

36. Good analogy! It's true, you don't hear him mentioning Republicans as negative as he does Democrats.

I'd recommend taking him to the woodshed, but he lived in one most of his life, so he'd just be comfortable there.

[seabeyond]

42. Yes. Yes!! Exactly that. Thank you.

[KittyWampus]

51. in less sophisticated terms "If I can't have it, nobody can have it".

[pandr32]

32. No

Polling indicated it might be close, and it turned out to be a gain of 5 delegates for Bernie--insignificant--she earned delegates, too and only needs a handful more to clinch the nomination. She can win while still losing to Bernie--it's over. He has no chance, so wasting resources on a primary fight with him would be reckless when Trump is already starting his GE campaign.

[seabeyond]

34. White, open primary, about 22% non Democrats voted and she took the Democratic vote significantly.

I am good. Sanders can't be sucking her resources for his own vanity and ego trip.

Reasoned, realistic, pragmatic adults get it.

[morningfog]

65. She shat on Indiana Dems, who we could really use this fall.

[seabeyond]

82. No, Clinton did not. And the Democrats supported her.

[IamMab]

35. Save the cash. Sanders isn't worth a rusty penny at this point. nt

[Codeine]

37. Nah. She can lose every state left and still win.

And IN was going to be a poor return on investment anyway.

[KittyWampus]

43. Nope. She's already setting up shop to win in November. She's going to win even with-

She's going to win even with both Trump AND Sanders attacking her.

Even with Republicans voting for Sanders whenever they can in open primaries/caucuses.

[oasis]

46. Okay with that, I just wish she wouldn't waste any time debating

Bernie in upcoming weeks. Hillary should devote all of her energy and resources to beating Trump.

[Agschmid]

50. I'm fine with it.

[synergie]

52. There was no point in wasting money on Bernie's ego.

[rock]

55. 163 delegates short of the goal

I mean, "No".

[morningfog]

61. It's a foolish tactic for the primary and especially for the general.

Indiana went to Obama in 08. It could be in play. But not if our nominee ignores it because... well, I don't know why she did. Hubris? Money problems?

[JaneyVee]

67. Probably just campaign strategy.

[morningfog]

68. Yes. A bad campaign strategy. We can't take anything for granted this fall.

[JaneyVee]

69. She spent $0 and won 38 delegates. Bad strategy?

[morningfog]

70. Yes. We need every state engaged in the fall. She ignored Indiana because of her hubris.

It would have been good to make a showing, engage some voters, utilize some GOTV in preparation for the fall.

I hope this is not an indication of her GE strategy.

[JaneyVee]

73. Bernie dismissed an entire region.

You cant be serious.

[morningfog]

75. Do you expect Bernie to be our nominee?

I hope HIllary's GE campaign is less flippant than you.

[JaneyVee]

78. Did Bernie expect it?

[morningfog]

79. Is Hillary expecting to be the nominee?

[Gothmog]

76. I am not upset at all

[LanternWaste]

77. She could have invested about $25 to boost her 92% of clinching the nomination to 93%.

She could have invested about $25 to boost her 92% of clinching the nomination to 93%.

[Jitter65]

80. Not me. nt

[Turin_C3PO]

83. My take

is that all campaign $$$ from here forward (including Bernie's) should be used to combat the very real fascist threat that Donald Trump represents.

[Garrett78]

84. I can't call myself a Clinton fan, but Indiana was more winnable than several of the upcoming states

So, not putting in more effort there does seem like a mistake. Ultimately, she'll be the nominee regardless. Still, losses don't help her in the narrative department.

[Demsrule86]

85. No we need to beat Ttump

[Beacool]

86. Nope, because IN didn't move the needle.

Sanders only gained 6-7 delegates. It was not a game changer.

[StevieM]

89. A little because if she had spent some money she probably would have won. But I understand

what her reasoning likely was. I think she was saving up for June 7 and all the money that it will cost to contest in California and New Jersey. And hopefully she will have some money for Kentucky and West Virginia too.

But, yes, I think it was a mistake. It probably would have helped to have a win of her own on the night of Trump's big win.

On the other hand, she might also be saving up to make sure she has money left over after the primaries have ended but before the conventions happen.